“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I don't think he's leading an army of whackos hell bent on starting a civil war. I think there are fringe extremists that are concerning, but that's on both sides.
To me, I note that there are 76 million people who voted for Biden and 71 million people who voted for Trump. I would bet the majority of both are good people who want good things for themselves and their loved ones.
The problem - and Trump has definitely fanned these flames - is that those same massive amounts of people have gotten caught up in this cycle of fear>hurt>anger>vindictiveness on both sides and neither side wants to be the better "person" because they are waiting for the other side to be nice first.
We have seen from the rampant attack ads that both parties have sought to control their constituents through fear and anger. The problem is that it worked, and we're left with our current situation. If we can try to actually communicate and get a mutual dialogue going to reach policy-oriented compromises, then I think the fringe whackadoodles would be less empowered.
We have to start seeing the rationale in opposing views, though, and so far it ain't happening. Just look at this board.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
And you don't? Seriously, the guy said they received those calls,,, can you refute that claim?
As for whether or not I believe the BLM is responsible for all the bad in the country, no, I don't. Not when i see a bunch of Rednecks carrying guns riding in their pick up trucks adorned with confedrate flags and Nazi flag and TRUMP 2020 flags.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
Dislike your motto, No Justice, No Peace.....JMHO, BLM has it WRONG- all life matters, in the Black community if lives mattered they wouldn't be killing themselves year after year after year- liberals can point the finger at bad cops all they want, less than 1% of deaths come from officers (that's too many), yet black on black crime is never OPENLY talked about between races- whites can't openly ask question- why are you killing each other, why not turn in murderers, rapists, drug pushers....fix your communities.....No Justice, No Peace, really....look at the root of the problem. Rap music, talking bitches, sluts, etc. ect. really honoring family, women....look at yourselfs and fix the problems.
"You've never lived till you've almost died, life has a flavor the protected will never know" A vet or cop
I love how BLM doesn't address the greatest threat to African Americans which are other African Americans. BLM and the Democrats don't like to talk about this because it doesn't fit their narrative.
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis 'to allow armed citizens to shoot suspected looters and rioters' who target businesses in an expansion of the state's Stand Your Ground law
So FL governor is looking to legalize what Rittenhouse was doing....
Wow.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
lol, be careful because libertarians are on the NGO hitlist since y'all lost Trump the election. Next thing you know he'll be spreading videos of you at the bar laughing it up with dems. He'll say, "libertard traitor gets friendly with Antifa lefties"...
Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
The world is the world- just looking at our problems, then check out most other places, China and it's one child policies and treatment of minorities, GB and bigots, classes, problems with clashing cultures and national health care which is a joke- wait months for MRI, France with Arab minorities, Japan really bigoted with pure blood lines and not even teaching truth about WW2 atrocities....the world has lots of problems. And we're all destroying atmosphere....ain't life wonderful....Pray.
"You've never lived till you've almost died, life has a flavor the protected will never know" A vet or cop
Really? LOL You’re using age old monarchs and dictatorships as the example here? We’re living in a trump made maga hater murica. And it’s going to take years to fix the bs he created.
A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives. – Jackie Robinson
He mentioned 1 dictatorship... which is also a world superpower, and then three others that weren't. They're fair points. US isn't the only country culture struggling with certain behaviors.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
The world is the world- just looking at our problems, then check out most other places, China and it's one child policies and treatment of minorities, GB and bigots, classes, problems with clashing cultures and national health care which is a joke- wait months for MRI, France with Arab minorities, Japan really bigoted with pure blood lines and not even teaching truth about WW2 atrocities....the world has lots of problems. And we're all destroying atmosphere....ain't life wonderful....Pray.
So China tried to control their population explosion. I don't agree with the method, but I see the concern and reason to want to control it. Just like people here having big families... I think more than a couple kids is just selfish in a finite resource world.
GB is diverse and took in a lot of refugees... they had/have issues there, but not for the wrong reasons. And I just can't find all these people in GB, Canada, or any other modern country with social medicine that hate the system so much... Social medicine is the way forward.
France and other countries in the EU took in a lot of refugees created by American wars... "Arab" minorities sounds like a racial slur the way you used it. I'm sure that is unintentional but Middle Eastern, Muslim, or country specific names for the refugees/immigrants would be much better than tagging them all as Arabs.
I can't speak to the bigotry in Japan as I know little about it or the fact that they don't teach the version of world history that you think they should. Hell look at the history we teach... it's been 'whitewashed' to cover many atrocities in our past and to position white people as founders, heroes, and patriots while overlooking the contributions, hardships, and suffering of the other races in the history of America.
Yes the world is the world and there is plenty of idiocy to go around, but there is nothing exceptional about being American that we can point to and say we are somehow better without lying to ourselves, especially in the Trump era; America's fall from grace...
So I have no idea what you are trying to say here, but it comes across more as a simplistic rationalization of our own problems rather than an acknowledgement of the work we have to do.
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Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
I guess I’m one of the few who not only understand the point Hitt was making, but agree.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
The US is not exceptional, and that goes both ways, in terms of this conversation.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
I guess I’m one of the few who not only understand the point Hitt was making, but agree.
Please enlighten me. Do we need to point at other countries to come to the conclusion that the world is full of fascists and those who fight against them and the USA isn’t any different? And prayer is all we have for hope?
A life is not important except in the impact it has on other lives. – Jackie Robinson
I guess I’m one of the few who not only understand the point Hitt was making, but agree.
It's not that I agree or disagree, I don't get what he was getting at other than to look at the world as messed up across the board, claiming we are no better or worse... leaving solutions or hope for the future up to prayer... that is why I said:
"So I have no idea what you are trying to say here, but it comes across more as a simplistic rationalization of our own problems rather than an acknowledgement of the work we have to do."
This is intended as not a knock on Hitt in anyway.
Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
Setting Up a Siege? Antifa Has Armed Guards, Stockpiled Weapons at Portland Autonomous Zone
By Tyler O'Neil
Dec 09, 2020
The antifa occupiers at the autonomous zone that sprung up in Portland this week appear to be preparing for a siege. As PJ Media’s Victoria Taft reported, antifa squatters took over a house in Portland and when the government rightly evicted them, they set up an autonomous zone.
On Wednesday, Portland’s police chief reported that antifa has fortified barricades, stockpiled weapons, set up armed guards, and threatened to kill police officers. Both the police chief and the mayor have urged the rebels to lay down their arms, but it appears they are refusing to do so.
“We want a peaceful & safe resolution to the occupation of public space on N Mississippi Ave. We are greatly concerned about the fortification of barricades, stockpiling of weapons, armed sentries, attacks on journalists & threats to kill officers in graffiti in this public space,” Chief Chuck Lovell tweeted on Wednesday. “I encourage those involved to reach out to our demonstration liaisons so we can discuss a peaceful outcome.”
“We are aware of the stockpile of weapons and the presence of firearms. We are aware of the threats to the community, to media, to police. We’ve seen the attacks. The Portland Police will enforce the law and use force is necessary to restore order to the neighborhood,” Lovell added in a brief speech about the autonomous zone.
On Tuesday, Mayor Ted Wheeler (D-Portland) announced he was “authorizing the Portland Police to use all lawful means to end the illegal occupation on North Mississippi Avenue and to hold those violating our community’s laws accountable. There will be no autonomous zone in Portland.”
Wheeler went on to acknowledge the extremely radical claims of Marxist Critical Race Theory that inspire much of the antifa rioting.
“We all agree many of our nation’s systems and structures are fundamentally racist and require significant reform. There’s a housing crisis, a health care crisis, an education crisis, an employment crisis, a mental health crisis, and an addiction crisis,” he argued. “All of these crises are magnified in urban areas, including Portland. And, these crises disproportionately impact Black people.” ORWELLIAN: Portland Mayor Claims Officers’ Tear-Gas Response to Arson Completely Unprovoked
Yet Wheeler refused to follow the logic of the more radical Black Lives Matter and antifa crowd, who use those arguments to justify rioting, looting, and arson.
“It’s also true that illegal trespassing, ignoring lawful orders from police, blocking sidewalks and streets, and intimidating neighbors inflame these crises and make [these crises] more difficult to solve. That is what’s happening on North Mississippi Avenue right now,” the mayor argued.
The antifa occupation appears to have emerged after a judge ordered that people illegally occupying a home must be evicted. Activists appear to have seized on the eviction as racist, oppressive, or otherwise illegitimate. Wheeler defended the eviction, noting that “Multnomah County chose the time, place and manner of the eviction and Portland Police provided support.”
“It’s time for the encampment and occupation to end,” the mayor concluded. “There are many ways to protest and work toward needed reform. Illegally occupying private property, openly carrying weapons, threatening and intimidating people are not among them.” Ted Wheeler Autonomous Zone Portland thread Twitter screenshot of Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler’s thread on autonomous zone.
Wheeler is right to defend the rule of law in this case, but his sympathy for Marxist Critical Race Theory undermines his case. If America’s “systems and structures” are “fundamentally racist,” as the mayor claimed, that inspires irrational anger and an aimless attempt to overthrow the existing order — by force, if necessary.
Wheeler himself repeatedly insisted that the violent antifa riots that racked Portland this summer were peaceful. He even attended one such riot, and he claimed that there was no justification for federal officers using tear gas — while rioters threw a Molotov cocktail near where Wheeler was standing!
Portland Police should restore order, break up the antifa autonomous zone, and defend the peace and safety of the city’s citizens around N. Mississippi Ave. This should be a no-brainer. Sadly, the very Marxist Critical Theory that inspires the riots has infiltrated the commanding heights of American culture, so much so that even the public official whose job it is to order the cops to restore order is echoing the very talking points that antifa militants use to justify their crimes.
The riots this summer, ostensibly focused on helping the black community, destroyed black lives, black livelihoods, and black monuments. At least 26 Americans have died in the riots, most of them black. The riots proved the most destructive in American history when it comes to insurance claims.
Police should break up the siege, and quickly. Wheeler should also consider the consequences of his radical rhetoric.
“ Los Angeles detective Mark Fuhrman wants what a hundred other ex-California cops already have found in Idaho.
Clean air, quiet neighborhoods and an escape from big city crime and stress.
Idaho’s Panhandle has been a getaway for tired Southern California cops and firemen for about 20 years.
Some even have formed their own support group in Coeur d’Alene, said Karl Thompson, a Kootenai County Sheriff’s Department captain and former California officer.
“I don’t attach any significance to the fact Fuhrman might be looking to retire up here,” he said. “It’s only natural to want to retire someplace that is less intense and reflects more genuine American values.””....
They go on in the article to deny being racists..... still, hmmmmmmm
I doubt there is correlation, much less causation.
But, we're seeing these days that it doesn't take much in the way of facts to establish a narrative.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Only a few years too late. Or is it's because election season is over?
Wheeler is the Portland democrat mayor who backed these riots earlier in the year. He even showed up at them in solidarity before being attacked himself by Antifa while trying to get into his condo.
Only a few years too late. Or is it's because election season is over?
Wheeler is the Portland democrat mayor who backed these riots earlier in the year. He even showed up at them in solidarity before being attacked himself by Antifa while trying to get into his condo.
And before PitDawg comes on here and claims like he did his brother, Bret Weinsten, of being right-winged-- here is Eric owning, intellectually IMO, Ted Cruz and Michael Knowles on their show. For anyone that watches this through it's entirety (which I doubt) Eric, like his brother, is not right-winged.
I'm probably going to shock you Memphis, but I actually just finished watching the whole thing and I loved it. I honestly can't stand Ted Cruz, but with him being candid and not embellishing for political impact, he was enjoyable to listen to.
The whole talk was insightful, intelligent, and politically well balanced. I expected a hatchet job and got a fair examination of the existential American political plight we are all living through. I subscribed to see if this was a one off or if it is a decent show. Thanks for sharing.
Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
And just like that, 5 minutes into checking out a regular episode with no guest from the left... the political parasite that is Ted Cruz reveals itself... What a crock of crap.
Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
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