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So, Bitonio is positive... that means that there is a high likelihood that at least one or more Steelers DLine may test positive later this week. The average incubation time from exposure is 5-7 days, but up to 14.... so, for Bitonio to test positive yesterday/today, he had to have been positive during the game. We know you can transmit before showing symptoms or even being able to test positive, so there is a strong probability that the Steelers DLine and maybe LBs will take a hit this week, too.

I'd say it is almost a certainty that they will... the only question is whether it happens during this week or not until after Sunday.

I’m not totally worried about missing our HC ... my biggest concern right now: the contact tracing that’s about to ravage our team.

Once the line spikes, I'm going to put money on the Browns + the points.

Contract tracing should ravage their team too, that is, if the league is taking this serious. We'll see.

I'm not advocating the Steelers to be out to help our chances, just saying, contact tracing is contact tracing. Our positive players were in close contact with a lot of Steelers players.

Our only hope would be to postpone the game, but hell, that could make the postseason weird.

I said before the season started, the NFL needed to have a bubble for the postseason. Take a week off, get to the bubble, test and isolate to ensure the postseason goes on without massive issues. Oh well.

Here's what I'm finding most odd and your comments made me think of it. Since we played the Steelers and Bitonio was in close contact with many of their DL and other Steelers players, why wouldn't they be placed on the close contact list?

Unfortunately like others have stated...its a sure bet others will be removed in the upcoming days for covid and close contacts...just saddening all around.

They absolutely should.

Th 15 consecutive minute rule is enforced IIRC

Bingo.

Yes exactly. There was contact with their players for the better part of 3 hours.

It's not just contact on the field. Those Steelers and other Browns players were then mingling in the locker rooms after the game. I'd think most of our players would be on the contact tracing list.

Like Dawgs4Life said it has to be 15 consecutive minutes.

Can they push this game back one week? This can get horrible with Stefanski now testing positive
Stefanski positive

Browns must refuse to travel to Pittsburgh!

This is the Move, I began last week to think this is what the Ravens did,

Ravens, must have, flat out refused to take the field with their top 2 Rb's out, with covid, for a regular season game,
And Ravens' probably said, Go Ahead, call it a forfeit, and don't broadcast a game, broadcast a freaking lifetime movie in the time slot.

And that's what I guess happened, and it worked, the league rescheduled all the schedule to give the Ravens time to heal up,
So the NFL could say they played all their 256 games.

WHATEVER!
WE SAW THE JETS GAME,

BROWNS SHOULD REFUSE TO TRAVEL, AND FORCE THE LEAGUES HAND!

And then both Ravens running backs still missed the game. . .

Why do the Football Gods HATE us so much?

thank you for that, at least.
Sheesh.

smdh

Interesting. I wonder if this is a possibility.

If they want to forfeit? Yes.

Let’s be honest, the best way to get this game delayed is get enough players on the COVID list so that we can’t field a team.

I say, If Jimmy Haslem digs his heels in, and refuses to travel to Pittsburgh!

And really refuses, and the whole team says, go ahead league,

Then there are 5 NFL Clubs, in the AFC Playoffs,

That are going to wonder how the steelers would get to advance without playing a game, and the League, won't have a current game to broadcast for sponsors, in one of it's timeslots,

because if its' a forfeit, it won't be the 8pm that doesn't go on,

But!

There's a chance, if you force the leagues hand!

That they'll come up with some way to move it.

FULL STOP!

Why can't it be moved to Monday or Tuesday? Teams play on Sunday before Thanksgiving and just 4 days later. Why can't it be done with the playoffs?

We'd need a lot more positives and people on the contact tracing list for the league to postpone the game. There are very strict rules against a team not traveling on purpose. Like, what do you think would happen if a coach pulled a team off the field because of a bad officiating call? The team would be fined $50M and their first round picks for a decade. If our team can travel and the league says they need to, you HAVE to travel.

It all comes down to the positives and contact tracing list. If it's too big, then the league has to consider moving the game. Sure, that would impact the rest of the playoff schedule, but they're the ones that refused to add in off weeks in case this happened.

This sounds like a very familiar strategy. . .

THIS ^

Even if it was we still wouldn’t have Stefanski back. And say the Steelers win, now they are at a huge competitive disadvantage because of something totally out of their control.

Current list of #Browns with COVID:
BJ Goodson
Malcolm Smith
Andrew Sendejo
Harrison Bryant
Denzel Ward
Kevin Johnson
Joel Bitonio
Javon Patterson
KahDarel Hodge
Bill Callahan
Chad O'Shea
Jeff Howard
Drew Petzing
Kevin Stefanski.

NOT AN OUTBREAK ACCORDING TO THE
@NFL

https://twitter.com/CyrusD4L/status/1346509949791305729

According the NFL’s definition of an outbreak it’s not an outbreak.

(It’s an outbreak.)

The NFL's medical experts believe last week's #Browns COVID cases were all from community spread, not a facility outbreak. Genomic sequencing showed three different strains of virus, I'm told. No positive tests Sunday or Monday. But now, 5 positives today and facility is closed.

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1346493370798059521

It's not giving up, it is digging in.
Covid, is new!
What you are talking about is Contractual obligation.
So! Does the League, want to have the Covid, Court Case?
Tie it up in the Courts, or Protect the shield, which way does the NFL want to proceed?

Force the Leagues Hand! They can move it, they just don't want to,
they moved the Ravens game, 4 TIMES!

Dig in your heels! Power to the People! Go Browns!
Ohio against the world!
Browns!!! Raised fist!

It is Tuesday, there could be 5, or there could be 10 more positives by Sunday.

2 days ago, it was all good news, even healh watch wise, 2 days ago, all the news was players coming back.

Bitonio is my guess. Coach did handle a football to toss to him as a game ball.

Contract tracing will probably eliminate him and a few other O-line that came in to close contact to Bitonio.



I posted before I got that far....I now see Bitonio is a positive.

I believe that is because to meet the definition of "close contact" it has to be 15 minutes of continuous close contact. In a game, you are close, then you're not. Then you're close again, then you're not.
It's nothing more than semantics, but that's the game they play with it.

aditi is one of the biggest Steeler homers and mouthpieces in the NFL. She is all about pittsburgh ... always taking any chance to prop them up. I don’t buy her comment.

Because Art Modell FIRED Paul Brown. Period.

Not that I want it, but why would close contact not be invoked, for players on both teams?

LOL....I post as I go...I see you answered that. I guess sharing sweat isn't a problem.

To note: coach handing him a football has nothing to do with it. That happened Sunday. It doesn't work that quickly. Based on everything known of covid, there is zero chance that this action is why Bitonio tested positive - UNLESS, it is a false positive.

I think what irks me about this is that if we had someone on our staff being grossly negligent (Ravens) and all these players had caught the virus through that means, we would be better off than if we had all of our players coming down with it because of the "community."

such organizational failure. all good feelings about making playoffs ofcourse gone with the imminent beat down that is going to occur. Best thing to hope for is alot of steelers end up out for covid too. Don't believe for a second this is all community spread.. I guarantee its a facility issue. Because we know everyone is wearing masks and staying away from people when they are away from the facility right?