Here’s the thing Eve, I realize that I can neither prove nor disprove a higher power. While I suspect there’s some sort of rhyme and reason to everything about how this whole thing works, I can’t get behind numerous belief systems that want to say people will not live forever because of some nonsensical reason.
the Dems have their whack a doodles in AOC, and Maxine Waters
Yeah, no.
Get out of here with your trash opinion. You equating individuals wanting policy that will help all Americans with those who want a white Christian theocratic ethnostate ain’t the sort of take you really want to make here, Charger.
It's just a matter of perspective. Maybe you should get out of here with yours?
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
If that's what you think, than I think your perspective is badly warped.
One is espousing hate and promoting provably false conspiracy theories.
The other is promoting a political ideology that is backed by and at least debatable on a fact / scientific level. You may despise the ideology - and you may even misunderstand it and feel like it's "unamerican" - but it's fact based. Her aggressive environmental stance is supported by most climate scientists and many non-climate scientists. Again - you may want to dismiss that out of hand - but it's not baseless lies.
Equating one with the other is messed up. But then honestly false equivalence is about all the Trump supporters have ever had.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
I don't agree with many of the points she makes, so no, that isn't my view.
My comment was towards Rocket telling someone to leave because he doesn't agree with their point of view.
That seems pretty popular on the left right now.
maybe this is for another thread, and I don't start threads in here, but lets be honest, as I see it, it is way past the point of creating unity. That is a fairy tale.
It has finally gotten down to the grass roots, to the people level. It isn't about disagreeing with the other party anymore. It is down to not liking people who are in the other party.
That will never create unity. It will only create a war. Now we have people like this bimbo saying Sandy Hook was staged and Pelosi talking about the enemy is in the house.
You don't repair that kind of stuff.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
I read Rocket's post as telling the other poster that it was trash to compare one with the other (AOC and other Democrats with MTG) . I don't believe that Rocket wants to prevent someone from posting. Just how I read it: A verbal exclamation point. And as you pointed out - that lets some be outraged and take it and use it / weaponize it.
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
My comment was towards Rocket telling someone to leave because he doesn't agree with their point of view.
That seems pretty popular on the left right now.
Ask Liz Cheney about that. She sees how popular that same thing is on the right. As a matter of fact, ask any Republican politician who doesn't walk lock step in lne with Trump.
Let's not live in some make believe world where you pretend this is a one way street.
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I do find it a bit humorous people promote sending those who disagree with them to a place they do not believe exists.
I get that. But - Figure of speech. And perfectly reasonable that I can hope that hell does exist so that scum like this get what they deserve even if I don't believe in Hell.
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
Like I said, we don't like each other. It's not going to get better. It's foolish to think it will anytime soon.
Now, when I use the word we, I don't mean anyone in particular. Because I know how you and other take words so literal, I don't want you running around saying i don't like people. LOL
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Perspective? One individual is a hateful bigot that espouses views of white supremacy. The other individual is one who wants European style social democracy that will help provide for all Americans.
Stop your nonsense. Aren’t you due to make a sexual comment or start spouting off misogynistic statements like you typically do? You haven’t mentioned anything about whimpy or sissy men in awhile.
Not telling anyone to leave. Just asking for people to make valid comparisons.
The two sides have been adversaries for quite some time. But if you would like for me to show you some of the crazy things Trump and a few of his political friends have said that have gotten us to where we are at this very moment I would be happy to.
It's gone far beyond, "We don't like each other" no matter how many people sit in denial of the things that have been said by our own president over the past five years to get us to the place we are now.
Just think about this for a second. You have the Republican party censuring and campaigning against members of their own party to drum them out of politics simply because they voted for impeachment. Yet how do they address the whackamole Marjorie Taylor Greene? We'll talk to her?
Just admit this isn't the same Republican party you have known for your entire life.
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Perspective? One individual is a hateful bigot that espouses views of white supremacy. The other individual is one who wants European style social democracy that will help provide for all Americans.
Stop your nonsense. Aren’t you due to make a sexual comment or start spouting off misogynistic statements like you typically do? You haven’t mentioned anything about whimpy or sissy men in awhile.
Not telling anyone to leave. Just asking for people to make valid comparisons.
I don't know. I'll have to think about it and come up with some fresh material.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
The two sides have been adversaries for quite some time. But if you would like for me to show you some of the crazy things Trump and a few of his political friends have said that have gotten us to where we are at this very moment I would be happy to.
It's gone far beyond, "We don't like each other" no matter how many people sit in denial of the things that have been said by our own president over the past five years to get us to the place we are now.
Just think about this for a second. You have the Republican party censuring and campaigning against members of their own party to drum them out of politics simply because they voted for impeachment. Yet how do they address the whackamole Marjorie Taylor Greene? We'll talk to her?
Just admit this isn't the same Republican party you have known for your entire life.
It's not. Nor is the Democratic party. So where does that leave us? As I see it , pretty much in the same place. You still choose the candidate or party that best represents your feelings and views.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Perspective? One individual is a hateful bigot that espouses views of white supremacy. The other individual is one who wants European style social democracy that will help provide for all Americans.
Stop your nonsense. Aren’t you due to make a sexual comment or start spouting off misogynistic statements like you typically do? You haven’t mentioned anything about whimpy or sissy men in awhile.
Not telling anyone to leave. Just asking for people to make valid comparisons.
Is that what you meant.
You said," Get out of here with your trash opinion. You equating individuals wanting policy that will help all Americans with those who want a white Christian theocratic ethnostate ain’t the sort of take you really want to make here, Charger.
Ok...now I know what you meant. When you say get out of here, that to me means you want them to leave.
Also, the last part I quoted could be taken as a threat.
Now, I really don't think that, but it's easy to take a comment and twist in to something it wasn't.
At any rate, some good comments on religion. I can respect that.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
The two sides have been adversaries for quite some time. But if you would like for me to show you some of the crazy things Trump and a few of his political friends have said that have gotten us to where we are at this very moment I would be happy to.
It's gone far beyond, "We don't like each other" no matter how many people sit in denial of the things that have been said by our own president over the past five years to get us to the place we are now.
Just think about this for a second. You have the Republican party censuring and campaigning against members of their own party to drum them out of politics simply because they voted for impeachment. Yet how do they address the whackamole Marjorie Taylor Greene? We'll talk to her?
Just admit this isn't the same Republican party you have known for your entire life.
It's not. Nor is the Democratic party. So where does that leave us? As I see it , pretty much in the same place. You still choose the candidate or party that best represents your feelings and views.
LOL now I know why you all choose wackadoodles like trump and Greene.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
Yeah, electing a man who calls people to a location, tells people they have to fight and send them to the scene of the crime, I mean that's the same thing, right?
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Yeah, electing a man who calls people to a location, tells people they have to fight and send them to the scene of the crime, I mean that's the same thing, right?
Bin Ladin was an innocent, misunderstood man. He didn’t fly the planes into the towers.
McConnell says Marjorie Taylor Greene is a "cancer for the Republican Party"
February 2, 2021 / 7:02 AM / CBS/AP
Washington — Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell denounced newly elected Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene on Monday, calling the far-right Georgia Republican's embrace of conspiracy theories and "loony lies" a "cancer for the Republican Party."
"Somebody who's suggested that perhaps no airplane hit the Pentagon on 9/11, that horrifying school shootings were pre-staged, and that the Clintons crashed JFK Jr.'s airplane is not living in reality," said McConnell, of Kentucky, referring to a handful of conspiracy theories that Greene has publicized in the past. "This has nothing to do with the challenges facing American families or the robust debates on substance that can strengthen our party."
The Republican leader also came to the defense of Representative Liz Cheney, the No. 3 House Republican who has come under fire from members of her own party for her vote to impeach former President Donald Trump.
"Liz Cheney is a leader with deep convictions and the courage to act on them," McConnell said in a statement on Tuesday. "She is an important leader in our party and in our nation. I am grateful for her service and look forward to continuing to work with her on the crucial issues facing our nation."
McConnell's explicit condemnation of Greene adds to pressure on House Republicans to take action against her even as she is claiming renewed support from Mr. Trump. It comes as House Democrats moved Monday to strip Greene of her committee assignments if Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy of California refuses to do so himself.
"It is my hope and expectation that Republicans will do the right thing and hold Rep. Greene accountable, and we will not need to consider this resolution," said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland. "But we are prepared to do so if necessary."
Thus far, however, GOP leaders in the House have been reluctant to criticize Trump supporters, like Greene, out of concern that they could alienate the former president's most ardent voters, underscoring a bitter divide over how the out-of-power party should navigate the two years until the next congressional elections.
Greene responded to McConnell late Monday with a broadside on Twitter, suggesting that "the real cancer for the Republican Party is weak Republicans who only know how to lose gracefully."
"This is why we are losing our country," she wrote.
McConnell's statement criticizing Greene was first reported by The Hill newspaper.
Democrats' willingness to act against a member of the opposing party underscores their desire to confront far-right politicians, like Greene, who are closely aligned with some of the former president's fringe supporters, including extremist groups that were involved in the violent Capitol insurrection.
"If Republicans won't police their own, the House must step in," said Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a Democrat of Florida, who is sponsoring the measure to remove Greene from her posts on the House education and budget committees.
Greene's views were in the spotlight even before she joined the House last month.
The Georgia Republican has expressed support for QAnon conspiracy theories, which focus on the debunked belief that top Democrats are involved in child sex trafficking, Satan worship and cannibalism. Facebook videos surfaced last year showing she'd expressed racist, anti-Semitic and anti-Muslim views. Top Republicans denounced her at the time, hoping to block her from capturing the GOP nomination in her reliably red congressional district in northwest Georgia.
But after she won her primary, they largely accepted her. Since then, even more of her past comments, postings and videos have been unearthed, though many were deleted recently after drawing attention.
She "liked" Facebook posts that advocated violence against Democrats and the FBI. One suggested shooting House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in the head. In response to a post raising the prospect of hanging former President Barack Obama, Greene responded that the "stage is being set."
In an undated video posted online, Greene floated a conspiracy theory that falsely suggests that the 2017 mass shooting that killed 58 people at a country music festival in Las Vegas could have been a false flag operation to build support for gun control legislation.
She also "liked" a Facebook post that challenged the veracity of a 2012 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. Another video captured her confronting Parkland, Florida, school shooting survivor David Hogg.
After her election, she seized on Mr. Trump's false claims that the election was stolen and cheered on his supporters the day before the Capitol was stormed.
"It's our 1776 moment!" she posted on the conservative-friendly social media platform Parler.
Last week, Pelosi pressed House Republicans to take action.
"Assigning her to the education committee, when she has mocked the killing of little children" in Newtown, "what could they be thinking, or is thinking too generous a word for what they might be doing?" Pelosi said of Republican leaders. "It's absolutely appalling."
In a tweet over the weekend, Greene sounded a defiant tone. She also said she had spoken to Mr. Trump and was "grateful for his support."
"I will never back down and will stand up against the never ending blood thirsty mob," she tweeted.
McCarthy is supposed to meet privately with Greene this week. A spokesperson for the Republican leader declined to comment Monday.
Although it's not certain he will take action against Greene, McCarthy has punished members of the House Republican caucus before. Former Representative Steve King of Iowa was stripped of all his committee assignments after expressing support for white supremacists in 2019.
Wasserman Schultz acknowledged Monday that it had long been left up to leaders to remove members of Congress of their own party of their committee assignments. But she said Republicans' reluctance to take action left Democrats with little choice.
"Rep. Greene's appalling behavior both before her election and during her term has helped fuel domestic terrorism, endangered lives of her colleagues and brought shame on the entire House of Representatives," Wasserman Schultz said. "Based on her actions and statements and her belligerent refusal to disavow them, she should not be permitted to participate in the important work of these two influential committees."
Trying to compare someone like this to democrats is the only desperate move some of the right wingers have left. This woman is floating dangerous conspiracy theories and we've been made painfully aware where things like this lead.
It's time for them to step up and allow the purge of people like this begin. These are the people in their party that cost them The White House, the majority in the senate and constricted their power.
Rather than learn from that lesson you have McCarhty visiting Trump and most all of the party staying silent about Greene.
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South Carolina GOP censures Rep. Tom Rice after his vote to impeach Trump
What were you saying again?
Former AOC staffers are plotting to take down moderate Democrats in order to clear the way for far-left legislation
No Excuses PAC seeks to replace West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin and Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema Carlos Garcia
February 02, 2021
A political organization co-founded by former staffers of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) are taking aim at moderate Democrats in an attempt to clear the way for their far-left legislative goals.
The No Excuses PAC was founded by Saikat Chakrabarti, the former chief of staff for Ocasio-Cortez, and Corbin Trent, the former communications director for the socialist democrat, and Zack Exley, who also co-founded Justice Democrats with his two political partners.
One of the stated goals of No Excuses is to replace Democrats Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Sen. Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona with far-left progressives who will help push their agenda.
Manchin and Sinema are the Democratic holdouts who are keeping the legislative filibuster alive and preventing the Democratic caucus from passing legislation to which Republicans object.
"The only real way to pressure any of these folks and hold them accountable to their promises is to threaten their power, and threaten the seat that they hold and threaten their re-election," Chakrabarti said to Politico.
"We sort of have this theory that the voters in Arizona and the voters in West Virginia would care more about action," he added, "they care more about jobs and their community and money in their pockets than they do about an arcane Senate rule called the filibuster."
Both Manchin and Sinema aren't up for election until 2024, but the progressive plotters say it will take a lot of time to mount the right kind of challenge to defeat them.
"Finding and training good candidates takes time," said Chakrabarti. "Doing that in two years when you already need a campaign started is very hard."
Republicans were able to secure an agreement to keep the filibuster in the Senate through the machinations of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).
"I'm glad we've stepped back from this cliff," said McConnell about the campaign to end the filibuster.
"Taking that plunge would not be some progressive dream, it would be a nightmare," he added. "I guarantee it."
So you back QAnon candidates? 9/11 conspiracy theorists maybe? Maybe those who think mass shootings at schools are staged? If you could just train them not to be crazy that would help.
Why do you keep making excuses for these people? Could it be the fact that Trump likes them too?
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So you back QAnon candidates? 9/11 conspiracy theorists maybe? Maybe those who think mass shootings at schools are staged? If you could just train them not to be crazy that would help.
Why do you keep making excuses for these people? Could it be the fact that Trump likes them too?
Why do you keep making inaccurate statements?
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
I'm currently a Republican, yet can't believe an area in Georgia could elect this nut to represent them. God help our country. I voted Republican for President EVERY year until 2016. Couldn't vote for Hillary and surely not Trump. Voted Biden in 2020 because I detest the Trump cult.
I pray she's sent back to Georgia as unfit to govern. God help us if she's the type carrying concealed. She should be required to take a mental exam......so sad. Our future? Yes, we've got adults thinking we never went to the moon....fake news, hell, fake history....and they are not rational. It is really scary times. And the religious right think the thing to do is buy guns and have lots of ammo for the end of times. Just what Jesus would want them to do, kill as many as possible defending their home.
Nuts. Pray for our country and President Biden....PS, if the Republicans don't start wising up....call me an Independent.
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