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I think even at your advanced age with your poor eyesite you can see the difference old fella

That's an electric bike, as in bicycle. I thought we were talking about electric motorcycles...








See they have Woody's, Harley's, and even a model like the WWII sidecar bike like you started out on. Oh, and these are faster than you bike too.

I can do 0-60 in less than 6 seconds, plus carry 5 bags of groceries a large watermelon, and 13 ears of corn at the same time. All while sitting in comfort and not having to balance the bike, hold it up, or put my feet down.

So now we are talking about your mobility scooter?

Just think of the resources we could save and how you all could save the planet if nobody was given the privelage of such a wasteful thing as a personal vehicle any longer.

Seriously folk, give your autonomy to the daddy government, they'll take care of you real good. All yer got to doer, is plan yer travel like a good little citizen in the world wide habit trail, and wait for the government offices to approve,

sure, You walk out yer door and in 2 minutes or less yer government car vehicle will be waiting, and you can get in, and press a button for the location to take you to,
NOW!
if it's approved by the democratic party, and the health officials, and the climate deniers, (I mean climate scholars) then they'll take you right away to yer destination

where you can use your government approved dbt/ebt (social credit report) to buy exactly what the government tells you you want to buy, and nothing else,

and be whisked back, right into your habitrail hole, where all yer life's desires can be bivowacked into a non free will existence,
just like good little subjects to the king.

wouldn't you want that, I mean why would you want anything else.

Perfect Pets to the autonomous Government Privelaged to little things like, I don't know, free to see children, or slave away at a job for 20 hours a day at gunpoint, just like North Korea,

But a nice version. Right? Who would want free choice!

Think about it, think about the resoucres that could be saved,
I'd bet, close to 75% of cars in the USA,
are stationary at any given point in time.

So we find a way to get rid of all cars that are parked anywhere on earth, electric, gasoline or otherwise, and only have cars exist for when they are actually moving.

Shoot, the idea sounds so great, maybe next we could apply it to humans, only exist while they are producing for the autonomous government.

World Wide Habitrail, controlled by satelites,
the entire earth becomes one great big prison where everyone never really has a cell but their every move is controlled like some giant AI VR video game.

With all the power outages in Texas from their winter storm, how do they plan to power electric cars?

They can use the snow cover solar panels... DOH
OK maybe the giant windmills that are frozen... DOH

I'm curious what the influx of usage is because of a storm like this? Is it not cost effective for us to have that extra power generation "just in case"? Or the ability to bring on a couple extra generators to generate such needs.

It’s proven Texans can’t drive on ice with gas powered mobility so that’s moot.

Probably more like snow. Nobody can drive on ice. At least with a normal vehicle with normal traction control and tires.

It is kind of funny, except that is the wrong climate change, no?

I don't think many don't feel there is a climate change taking place. We just don't agree on the reason why.

No doubt humans have a big impact on that change. We are like a global parasite. The biggest impact we as humans can do to help moderate that change is to not have so many humans on the planet.

We need to have serious discussion on how we can limit human population as we move forward. I think we are nearing the point where we have about as many as this planet can sustain.

That is something we can control and can make a change in as little as 50 years. Think about it....emissions would be cut, forests would have a chance to rejuvenate, animal habitat would come back...that's the answer IMO. Fewer humans.

The big question is how?

No. Extreme weather, heat and fires, Ice and snow. It’s all part of global warming. Pffft trump supporters and deniers are going kill us all.

The way it has been explained to me, and I am no scientist, so take this with a grain of salt if you want to, is that the extreme cold weather in places like Texas is due to blasts from Arctic warming.

The analogy presented to me to explain it was to think of those old ice cream makers where you put the cream in the vat in the middle surrounded by the ice, with a crank to spin it. You put salt on the ice to melt it to help transfer its frigidity to the cream and freeze it. So, while the ice cream is getting colder, the whole kit is actually warming.

So, in this case, Texas and the Midwest would be the cream, and the polar ice cap would obviously be the ice that's melting.

I totally agree. I think we need a policy of ‘from two come one’. One kid. Or no kids. It’s a womb. Not a clown car. Knock it off with the rabbit mentality of childbearing.
If we had three generations of ‘from two come one’ this planet would be saved. But there’s too many people out there that think it’s their right, or obligation, to field a baseball team from their crotch.

Actually The United states is very near zero population growth. Nations such as Iceland, Germany, Portugal, and Poland have all reached zero population growth.

The inference is that we should somehow have the power to control the population of the third world. It's a novel idea but something I find odd. It seems many wish America to be more of an isolationist country until it comes to matters they care about.

Whoa...

I get what you are saying bro and mostly agree, but it sounds a little like communist China's one child thing. We all saw how that went. Heck, I'd be a proponent of "sterilize the stupid" if it wasn't something fascist nazis would do...

It's easy for thinking men and women to see what "we need" to do, but you always have to factor human beings into the equation and that's when it all goes to crap.

Thanks for your input Chairman Xiaoping..

Moving on to the non-communist opinions now, would anybody else care to comment?

I do find it somewhat disturbing that someone thinks they have more of a right to determine if someone "has a baseball team from their crotch" then they do.

I don't disagree with the idea that we certainly need to control the earths population. But I would think it would have to be more of an incentive program to promote such an idea.

The incentives are all around us every day... how's that going? It's easier to just accept that it's a race of science vs. the human condition as to rather we prevent creating our own extinction. The average person can't wrap their minds around that one at all. We'll all be dead and gone by then, but our lineage will get to witness it first hand. Those are the people I feel for.

I never said anything about this being advocated by the government. Never.
This needs to be taken on as responsible citizens of the world. As individuals.
I didn’t have kids. It’s not hard to do. I made the choice not to for many reasons.
I do think there should be some honest open discussion about ‘from two come one’ in our society. Along with in every other society. Nothing communist about it.

I shouldn’t have used the word ‘policy’ in my initial post. My bad as I can see it caused unintended confusion.

LMAO ok now you believe that global warming means colder temperatures and more ice and snow.

You still don’t understand the difference between weather and climate.
Back to science 101 for you.

ROTFLMFAO


What in the hell happened to the right to choose you talk about all the time LOL..

Oh wait does this mean you toss that out the widow when you don't agree????

Oh I understand bro. But what you and others refuse to understand is that the earth has warmed and cooled on its own when humans have nothing, zero, zilch, to do with it. While humans may hurry things along the earth will warm and cool no matter what in the hell we do.

the Khan warlords killed so many people, they lowered the temperature by a degree.

to try and just chalk everything that happens up to "well its gonna happen anyway" is irresponsible.

yes, a big part of climate change is natural. that isn't justification to completely wreck the planet and make the problem worse.

You can drive on ice, you can drive on snow.
You can walk on ice, you can walk on snow.

It might not be as easy but you can do it.

I remember watching our car pull away, spinnin and spinnin and spinnin and spinning the tires, but it gets moving, Ice all the way up the road.

you can stop on ice, maybe, if you can get enough small stops, and if it's level, I mean, ok, if theres' a 60 percent grade if it's really steep, then it's pretty impossible to drive on ice, but a level road,

people can drive on ice, on a level road, in a rear wheel drive vehicle, if you do it right, and take everything gradually, with regular tires.

and if you stop gradually and slowly enough, and intermittently enough, and if you make your turns gradually enough you can drive a car on a 3inch layer of ice over a road, solid ice,

NOW! you better not have any speed or momentum whatsoever!!! when you first get to the ice, or you'll go flying like a penguin wearing ice skates flung onto a rink by a teenager.
spinning around waiting to pinball off whatever you hit like a puck in a plinko game.

But you can't say, nobody can drive on ice, you just have to understand the motion and that any action would be magnified 10 or 20 fold because of the slipperiness.

I've been driving in winter time for 23+ years, NOW, have I ever lost control and wrecked on the ice, Yes,
One, maybe 2-3 times, some very minor, one big one, maybe two big ones.

NOW, have I ever lost control of my car because I hit a patch of ice? At least once every single year, some years 7-10 times,

NOW. 70-75% of the time if I lose control, or even just notice the car or truck is slipping on ice, you just let up, let off the gas, stop steering
for a split second, about a full .5 of a second

then try to stear gradually with the momentum of the car, then slightest engagement of the accelerator of the car, usually to try to regain control,
Or, quick tap and releases of the breaks,
(I don't like anti lock breaking because I think it's too rapidly repeated and too fast to let up but
3 or 4 half taps on the brake, overriding the anti locks which, engage too often when not needed and not as much of a help when

but, Most times I don't hit anything, and sometimes, there were times I'd hit ice and knew I wasn't going to be able to stop for the oncoming intersection,

And that's why when there's a lot of ice, it's it's kind of like that old "warp" button on the game "asteroids" in the old Atari 2600

You can't stop but you can, kind of guide your momentum into where you are going to hit, So!
if you can guide your momentum back onto or toward the roadway and power through, you can slide right through an intersection, or see

The thing is, is, if your truly on ice! and driving toward an intersection, I'll start preparing to stop for that next intersection, a good MILE, Mile and a Half before the intersection,
No Joke!

So you maybe can't drive 50-55 mph, but you can maybe go 10-15, maybe even only 9-10 mph and get where you are going.
In a relatively flat route.

And the trip doesn't take that much longer, usually in time wise, than you might think.

I think 99 percent of drivers can learn to drive on ice too.
Now, I don't live in Atlanta, there has been some things said to me in my life that say, the concrete, the pavement, the blacktop, the road structure is different in places where they don't get regular freezes every year,
So, maybe, they are dealing with something different down there in road grip.

( Sorry, I just read, "nobody can drive on ice", I'm like, What!)

LOL and ignoring the facts and blaming everything on humans is just plain stupid.

I was about to respond when I saw this:


It was the word policy that led me to believe you were talking about a government mandate..

If you are talking about conversation, then ok.

Right now our population growth rate is barely .5% at about 1.75 children per woman and declining. The global population growth rate is more than double that. I don't think we are the problem.

Texas created their own problems because "regulations bad!"

There are several articles out there covering the subject but the good ones are very long. What it boils down to is that Texas made the decision to privatize its electric power and not receive or distribute electric power to other states. In doing so it made them exempt from federal regulations regarding their power. You know, those nasty government regulations that some claim are "all bad".

As such, they do not share power grids with other states nor allow them to receive power from other states in desperate times of need. There are three grids in the Lower 48 states. The Eastern Interconnection, the Western Interconnection — and Texas.

Here is a link to an article from 2011 that shows this problem existed and was known for a long time now. The time came that it has reared its ugly head.

https://www.texastribune.org/2011/02/08/texplainer-why-does-texas-have-its-own-power-grid/

The following article is more up to date and explains when and why this happened.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/202...cot/6765007002/

Their governor is laying the blame right at the feet of ERCOT.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/202...orm/6763521002/

Sorry, just reading it a 2nd time. ( I think of the entire community of Green Bay Wisconsin,) I think of the uhh, the 1950's and 1960's, there must have been literally millions of people who can and have driven on ice.
Sorry, I'm Dumbfounded reading that statement, I don't mean to pick, but being dumbfounded I'm struck, I mean, The Russian and German front in 1943.

I'm moving on, "let it go" I'm saying to myself.

Hasn't Texas been setting themselves up to secede from the US for decades now?

People, Don't trust anybody who wishes to control your life that much.

I first took your post to mean a government policy or mandate of some sort as well. Thanks for the clarification. I can't lie, though... that post made me chuckle.

But in terms of your clarification, I think the first step is doing away with this cultural push towards children. I think you all know what I'm talking about. Having kids these days seems to be "something you do". It comes right after getting married and buying a house on the list of thing that everyone "just does". And if you don't do those things (in order, mind you) then you're a weirdo.

This traditional type of thinking has got to go. Having kids, while an immense blessing, is an even more immense responsibility and a choice that shouldn't be made lightly.

I thought that was Portland. Portland and the Berkley campus.
(and the city, not the DTMB board member, clarification)

honestly you're one of the few arguing against facts simply to be stubborn. this either or nonsense needs to stop.

anyways,

jc

people need to step back and really look at how screwed up China made their demographic problems, especially for the future.

that one child policy created such an imbalanced in the male/female ratio that there's something like 20-30 million more men than women.

and when you combine that with even a little bit of knowledge of the chinese culture, the crap they're pulling on minorities, neighboring countries, and overseas become obvious and even more pathetic.

they're suppressing the Uyghur's under the guise of trying to standardize (read: reprogram) chinese citizens. but then look what they're doing: getting rid of the Uyghur men, and trying to insert "normal" chinese men into Uyghur households for the sole purpose of trying to make more children.

The silk road policy is still economically driven. but now its had to be altered to try and get more people to migrate into china in order for their population to grow.

yes, think about that: as big as the country is, and as many people as they have, it's actually NOT ENOUGH, especially due to the imbalance of gender. if they don't fix the problem that they created, they are SCREWED.

now look at our closest allies in western democracy. Port is absolutely right when he talks about the population neutral. I have been on record trashing Angela Merkel in HOW she handled the refugee crisis in Germany and how reckless it was, but people also need to understand why she did it in the first place.

Germany, like a lot of western european countries, have had a massive problem with their birth rates, and its getting worse.

Trying to lower the poverty rate and focusing on educating the population is of course sound policy and should be a priority, thats common sense.

but there is NO perfect policies. every policy/regulation has its consequences.

the big one in europe: the more educated your population gets, the lower the birth rates tend to be. it right now its BAD. there's a reason they offer whats called Kindergeld; a policy that pays a monthly stipend for each child you have until they're 18. when we was still living in germany, it was 118 euro per kid, or about 216 USD. its gone up since then, so i don't even know how much per child they recieve now.

and it STILL didn't work all that well. people are living longer, and even with pushing back the retirement age, there are still far too many elderly than younger people replacing them in the work force. THAT's the major reason Merkel allowed all of them in. they needed bodies ASAP.

so again, while i have an issue with how she handled it, which was a train wreck, the reality is that there are far more refugees adjusting to german culture than otherwise. and then THOSE parents have kids that are born and raised in Germany and are full blown German.

there is a REASON why even the GOP now is offering a US version of kindergeld now. Romney just dropped a bill that would do that, similar to the democrats. now this part is why i disagree with Port on population control here in America:

American now starting to go through the same crap Europe has been going through for the last couple of decades. Thats why they are offering a boost in the child tax credit, and trying to make it monthly. our birth rates are falling faster than cheaply made chinese satellite. American politicians use to make fun of the welfare queens and baby momma stereotype, and now they're WISHING we had women having that many kids again.

yes, it will help get kids out of poverty, but make no mistake: government is doing that because our population needs to grow. we've already had a talent level problem in this country; now we're having that PLUS a lack of bodies-level problem, and its only getting worse.

yea, that child tax credit isn't gonna solve the problem, but damnit its a start. that's why both republicans and democrats tend to kick the can down the road when it comes to immigration. its because they always knew that we needed migrates a hell of a lot more than most care to admit.

i don't like population control because it just doesn't work. and in a country like ours, its dumb to begin with. the entire WORLD population can fit in the state of texas, with each person with something like 1800 square feet to themselves, or basically the size of your typical townhouse.

just texas.

there's so many factors and complexities that go into population growth and such, but when you have even conservative politicians now trying to offer up incentives to keep children, you KNOW its yet another problem that government didn't do crap to get ahead of, and now is trying to play catch up.

i am most certainly not advocating to do Merkel style immigration, because hell no. but we also need to understand that our neighbors aren't the middle east. not even close. culturally, the only difference between our neighbors south of the border and us is skin tone.

and i know way too many southern white men who love flexing their spanish skills on mexican women so....make the babies, invest in green energy, create the jobs, and fix the talent problem.

tough task, but we gotta get the ball rolling before this situation does permanent damage.

LOL so your saying that the earth warming and cooling is not a fact??? and that it did so way, way, way before any humans had any impact on it.?

WOW talk about denying facts