Last Saturday at 10am, I pointed out in the Fright Night page 10, and in the K9 poll forum thread,
Pour one out for the probably 25,000 people who won't be alive from then until halftime of the Super Bowl.
since then 23,550 deaths, from covid, this week. And it increased 16 deaths realoading the webpage.
US. cases, 27,422,087 deaths, 471,040
(last Saturday 1,30,2021, at 10am, 26,514,275---447,490)
A Covid death for each attendee of the Super Bowl in the last 8 days.
And the numbers aren't falling as fast another 150,000 won't see Easter Sunday? The 100 year flu is real, (it's wu tang clan it ain't nothing to mess with)
Cuomo aide admits they hid nursing home data so feds wouldn’t find out
By Bernadette Hogan, Carl Campanile, and Bruce Golding
February 11, 2021
Governor Cuomo’s top aide privately apologized to Democratic lawmakers for withholding the state’s nursing-home death toll from COVID-19 — telling them “we froze” out of fear the true numbers would “be used against us” by federal prosecutors, The Post has learned.
The stunning admission of a cover-up was made by Secretary to the Governor Melissa DeRosa during a video conference call with state Democratic leaders in which she said the Cuomo administration had rebuffed a legislative request for the tally in August because “right around the same time, [then-President Donald Trump] turns this into a giant political football,” according to an audio recording of the two-hour-plus meeting.
“He starts tweeting that we killed everyone in nursing homes,” DeRosa said. “He starts going after [New Jersey Gov. Phil] Murphy, starts going after [California Gov. Gavin] Newsom, starts going after [Michigan Gov.] Gretchen Whitmer.”
In addition to attacking Cuomo’s fellow Democratic governors, DeRosa said, Trump “directs the Department of Justice to do an investigation into us.”
“And basically, we froze,” she told the lawmakers on the call.
“Because then we were in a position where we weren’t sure if what we were going to give to the Department of Justice, or what we give to you guys, what we start saying, was going to be used against us while we weren’t sure if there was going to be an investigation.”
DeRosa added: “That played a very large role into this.”
After dropping the bombshell, DeRosa asked for “a little bit of appreciation of the context” and offered what appears to be the Cuomo administration’s first apology for its handling of nursing homes amid the pandemic.
But instead of a mea culpa to the grieving family members of more than 13,000 dead seniors or the critics who say the Health Department spread COVID-19 in the care facilities with a March 25 state Health Department directive that nursing homes admit infected patients, DeRosa tried to make amends with the fellow Democrats for the political inconvenience it caused them. see also
COVID-19 deaths in NY nursing homes were 50 percent higher than claimed: probe
“So we do apologize,” she said. “I do understand the position that you were put in. I know that it is not fair. It was not our intention to put you in that political position with the Republicans.”
Assembly Health Committee Chairman Richard Gottfried (D-Manhattan) immediately rejected DeRosa’s expression of remorse, according to the recording.
“I don’t have enough time today to explain all the reasons why I don’t give that any credit at all,” said Gottfried, one of the lawmakers who demanded the death-toll data in August.
State Senate Aging Committee Chairwoman Rachel May (D-Syracuse) — who was battered during her re-election bid last year over the issue of nursing-home deaths — also ripped into DeRosa, saying her former opponent had launched another broadside earlier in the day.
“And the issue for me, the biggest issue of all is feeling like I needed to defend — or at least not attack — an administration that was appearing to be covering something up,” she said.
“And in a, in a pandemic, when you want the public to trust the public-health officials, and there is this clear feeling that they’re not coming, being forthcoming with you, that is really hard and it remains difficult.” Melissa DeRosa Melissa DeRosa privately apologized to Democratic lawmakers for withholding the state’s nursing-home death toll from COVID-19. Lev Radin/Pacific Press/Shutterstock
Assemblyman Ron Kim (D-Queens), who took part in the call, told The Post on Thursday that DeRosa’s remarks sounded “like they admitted that they were trying to dodge having any incriminating evidence that might put the administration or the [Health Department] in further trouble with the Department of Justice.”
“That’s how I understand their reasoning of why they were unable to share, in real time, the data,” Kim said.
“They had to first make sure that the state was protected against federal investigation.”
Kim, whose uncle is presumed to have died of COVID-19 in a nursing home in April, also said he wasn’t satisfied with DeRosa’s apology.
“It’s not enough how contrite they are with us,” he said. “They need to show that to the public and the families — and they haven’t done that.”
In addition to stonewalling lawmakers on the the total number of nursing home residents killed by COVID-19, Cuomo’s administration also refused requests from the news media — including The Post — and fought a Freedom of Information lawsuit filed by the Empire Center on Public Policy.
Instead, it only disclosed data on the numbers of residents who died in their nursing homes.
But after Attorney General Letitia James last month released a damning report that estimated the deaths of nursing-home residents in hospitals would boost the grim tally by more than 50 percent, Health Commissioner Howard Zucker finally released figures showing the combined total was 12,743 as of Jan. 19.
Just a day earlier, the DOH was only publicly acknowledging 8,711 deaths in nursing homes.
In a Wednesday letter to lawmakers, Zucker said the total number of nursing home residents killed by COVID-19 had increased to 13,297 That number jumps to 15,049 when assisted living/adult care facilities are factored in.
The controversy generated by James’ report led to an infamous news conference at which Cuomo callously dismissed the matter of where nursing home fatalities actually took place.
“Who cares [if they] died in the hospital, died in a nursing home? They died,” he said.
During Wednesday’s conference call, DeRosa said it appeared the DOJ was no longer focused on New York’s nursing home deaths.
“All signs point to they are not looking at this, they’ve dropped it,” she said.
“They never formally opened an investigation. They sent a letter asking a number of questions and then we satisfied those questions and it appears that they’re gone.”
In a prepared statement, Cuomo spokesman Rich Azzopardi said, “We explained that the Trump administration was in the midst of a politically motivated effort to blame democratic states for COVID deaths and that we were cooperating with Federal document productions and that was the priority and now that it is over we can address the state legislature.”
“That said, we were working simultaneously to complete the audit of information they were asking for,” he added.
Ohio, had misreported Covid deaths by 4000. (news 2 nights ago)
Ohio to add 2559 To the death count from mis reporting, someone who was put on leave has resigned who was counting, the story says there were at least 100 covid deaths per day December 19th- going on, until some point.
(todays news)
Other news, "Covid cops" will be out, but you won't see em, to make sure you follow the rules at the watering hole since the curfew is lifted.
other news yesterday, - Anyone touching a phone will now be able to be a primary reason for to be pulled over by the police, (creating a brand new class of criminal again)
(Unrelated, Lawmaker wants to put a 300 dollar civial penalty for passing a schoolbus, ) (another whole new class of criminal behavior)
(lemme tell you about the school bus, if you ever follow a school bus down the road, into a cul de sac whilst making a package delivery, and upon looking for the street address, you find the school bus has stopped, and you wait, and then the bus driver puts on their 4 way flashing lights, but not the school bus has stopped about to let people on or off lights, do not take that as a signal to go on by.
This is terrible. Inexcusable. He should be fired/removed. Doesn't really surprise me that a libtard would do this. CYA versus being truthful in the middle of a national emergency. When people are DYING.
4 people tested positive in Oregon after being vaccinated.
I get that vaccines arent 100% effective, but I've seen news reports that the vaccines are only 50-60% effective against some of the new variants (South African).
This is terrible. Inexcusable. He should be fired/removed. Doesn't really surprise me that a libtard would do this. CYA versus being truthful in the middle of a national emergency. When people are DYING.
A libtard like donny getting briefed on how dangerous it was behind closed doors, then calling it a hoax to the press? Like that? Spare me.
This is terrible. Inexcusable. He should be fired/removed. Doesn't really surprise me that a libtard would do this. CYA versus being truthful in the middle of a national emergency. When people are DYING.
A libtard like donny getting briefed on how dangerous it was behind closed doors, then calling it a hoax to the press? Like that? Spare me.
The Trump of Cult was screaming that all the numbers were inflated, death totals weren't real, all fiction.... Now they are screaming they are under-inflated. Just like the flu and all the deaths weren't Covid to a new tune ....
I hope whichever scumbag officials in any state manipulated and lied about deaths and the impact of this virus are prosecuted to the fullest extent allowable. I don't care if they are Dems or Republicans or independent.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
This is terrible. Inexcusable. He should be fired/removed. Doesn't really surprise me that a libtard would do this. CYA versus being truthful in the middle of a national emergency. When people are DYING.
A libtard like donny getting briefed on how dangerous it was behind closed doors, then calling it a hoax to the press? Like that? Spare me.
Whataboutism much? That govenor is trash.
No. I agree Coumo did something horrible by hiding the numbers. Can you admit donny hid the facts? I called out your hypocrisy first.
Is it that we are finally seeing the end of the holiday fallout? I know my cousins (mostly Trumpians) had big family crap all through the holidays. My aunt damn near died afterwards from covid and is in a nursing home now rehabbing. And at least 9 of them had covid at the same time... all so they could gift exchange.
I'd say we are just getting back to pre holiday levels.
Well, we've got spring break coming up with Florida having over 1/3 of the cases of the mutant COVID UK strain....and few regulations including no mask mandates.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul. - John Muir
That's alright, Desantis got this lmao. He has to be the dumbest Governor in the country. He will blatantly allow anything that brings a few bucks to his state. Who cares that it might kill people, as long as the tourism numbers are up.
Yeah well kids come to Florida to spring break from all over the country. Then they go home or back to school. So, "don't go" is a pretty silly thing to say.
Thanks to someone removing mail sorting machines it may take a week to get a post card from Florida. But after spring break Covid will be delivered to communities across America much quicker.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Yeah well kids come to Florida to spring break from all over the country. Then they go home or back to school. So, "don't go" is a pretty silly thing to say.
Thanks to someone removing mail sorting machines it may take a week to get a post card from Florida. But after spring break Covid will be delivered to communities across America much quicker.
Watching the NY Times has been hilarious.. before the inauguration, like right up until the day of, it was all doom and gloom and death and despair..
Since the inauguration, what, 3 or 4 weeks ago? they have run articles such as:
Infections aren’t what matters
Covid testing as exercise
(which goes on to say there is such a thing as being too cautious and overreacting and how we need to avoid that)
It was in retreat before Thanksgiving. It was in retreat before Christmas and New Year. Media has its bias on both sides. I listen to the science. But you are right. How the pandemic is going often depends on who is in power and which media source you listen to.
As of now it's true that cases are declining. But every time we let our guard down it comes back even stronger. What I feel a lot of people seem to dismiss are these new variant strains. We need to remain vigilant.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Yeah, I've noticed the news sources flipping their normal coronavirus stances when it comes to Cuomo, too.
The ones who were supporting Trump were like "how could this guy not be transparent!" while the ones that were against him are like "hey, let bygones be bygones."
Not unsurprising, unfortunately.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
Flipped on Morning Joe this morning for like 10 minutes... They were raving how the numbers from mid January until today are halved in new infections and deaths. They were seriously trying to spin it as Biden being on the ball... But any idiot should know we are just seeing the decline from the holiday hoopleheads dragging the clan to grandma's house. Rip Gma.
Flipped on Morning Joe this morning for like 10 minutes... They were raving how the numbers from mid January until today are halved in new infections and deaths. They were seriously trying to spin it as Biden being on the ball... But any idiot should know we are just seeing the decline from the holiday hoopleheads dragging the clan to grandma's house. Rip Gma.
Cases started rising in mid-October. We were in the realm of 180k cases/day before people even started traveling for Thanksgiving. While the holidays made it worse, there were more factors than just holiday gatherings that caused the high number of cases in the last 3-4 months.
It's supposed to be hard! If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great!
I commend you on your trolling. This is master-level sarcasm right here.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
It was in retreat before Thanksgiving. It was in retreat before Christmas and New Year.
No it wasn't. It was climbing rapidly in the weeks before Thanksgiving, starting around the latter part of October when cold and flu season starts. It climbed steadily right through Thanksgiving and Christmas. The only blips of it retreating are right on the holidays of Thanksgiving and Christmas because people weren't getting tested. We had pretty much a bell curve which peaked around the first week of January and has been declining fairly rapidly since then.
Your opinion, which I copied for your reference, was that it was in retreat leading up to each holiday, which is factually incorrect based on the science you claim to listen to. It was escalating rapidly in the weeks going into Thanksgiving and continued through the end of the year.. There hasn't been a noticeable period of "retreat" since Aug/Sept of last year.
I made no claims that the holidays "had nothing to do with it", which is probably why you didn't quote me before attributing things to me that I didn't say.
[quote] We had pretty much a bell curve which peaked around the first week of January and has been declining fairly rapidly since then.
I'm still curious why it dropped so much. We were around 180k/day just before Thanksgiving travel started. We peaked at about 250k/day in January. Then it plummets. I've seen articles that state Americans are finally doing things right, but are we? I haven't seen much difference. People still going out to eat. People still traveling. Daily airline passenger volume is in 700k-800k range, about where it was in early November. California and other states have loosened restrictions.
Vaccinations are surely helping, but can't imagine we vaccinated enough people that it contributes to that large of a drop. Winter could be playing a part. But I'd imagine winter would lead to more indoor gatherings, which would mean more spread.
It's supposed to be hard! If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great!
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
We know re-infection is definitely a thing, but I still think the virus can kinda burn itself out for a bit. I think post-holidays (where people kinda chill out from socializing) combined with lots of cases resolving will put a temporary damper on virus spread.
Just my guess.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
We had pretty much a bell curve which peaked around the first week of January and has been declining fairly rapidly since then.
I'm still curious why it dropped so much. We were around 180k/day just before Thanksgiving travel started. We peaked at about 250k/day in January. Then it plummets. I've seen articles that state Americans are finally doing things right, but are we? I haven't seen much difference. People still going out to eat. People still traveling. Daily airline passenger volume is in 700k-800k range, about where it was in early November. California and other states have loosened restrictions.
Vaccinations are surely helping, but can't imagine we vaccinated enough people that it contributes to that large of a drop. Winter could be playing a part. But I'd imagine winter would lead to more indoor gatherings, which would mean more spread.
I haven't noticed much of a difference around me either. I have no idea what caused the plummet. I know they made the announcement that they had this "revelation" that they were getting a large number of false positives and changed the criteria for reporting a positive.. maybe that had a big impact.
The one thing we can know for sure is that there absolutely wasn't any politically motivated changes made because scientists would never do that.
There was a peak 3 weeks after Christmas, and nw it is decreasing rapidly. The drop is anticipated, but I think a lot of people were not that careful around Christmas.
That pulse the vaccine, and the vaccine being targeted towards health care workers and seniors.
If I had my way, retail workers and educators would be next in line. People that interact with other people as part of their job.
Welcome back, Joe, we missed you!…. That did not age well.
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lmao. He has to be the dumbest Governor in the country. He will blatantly allow anything that brings a few bucks to his state. Who cares that it might kill people, as long as the tourism numbers are up.![[Linked Image]](http://www.dawgtalkers.net/uploads/small-gator-chomp.gif)
