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Yup I really stung you on that...

I swore I would stop replying, but I can't help myself.

How do you explain all the states certifying the election, including Republican-led states like Georgia and Arizona? And then also explain the insanely high pile of dismissed lawsuits afterward?

If you file 60 lawsuits across a myriad of courts, some of which with presiding judges appointed by Trump, how can you say you were being silenced?

My issue with the Trump-associated Republicans, like Ted Cruz, is that they often clamor for states' rights...I guess unless that right is...you know...voting.

It really can't be explained. Neither can the effort of over 100 state laws related to elections going forward.

Case in point, Arizona is attempting to put a law/rule in place that if the state legislature doesn't like the results of an election, they can simply overturn it. Lets not even talk about all the efforts to stop minorities from being able to vote all over the country.

It's not explainable.

They see the results of what happens when more people vote. So the solution is to make it harder for people, especially in minority communities, to vote.

Murica!

yup, it comes down to that.. As simple as it is, that's the plan.

j/c

57 GOP State And Local Officials Were At The Capitol Insurrection

And a month after the riot, few of the Republican political figures have been held to account.

At least 57 state and local Republican officials attended the Jan. 6 rally in Washington that turned into a deadly insurrection, according to an updated HuffPost tally. Almost all of them are resisting calls to resign.

They traveled from 27 states for the “Stop the Steal” demonstration near the White House. A couple of officials even gave speeches, warming up the crowd for then-President Donald Trump, who took the stage and regurgitated lies about the election results before instructing the “Make America Great Again” mob to march on the U.S. Capitol.

Late last month, after identifying an initial 21 state and local GOP officials at the rally — among them a QAnon conspiracy theorist, a self-described member of a far-right militia and a man who once declared that “the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat” — HuffPost received emails from readers across the country identifying the additional 36 officials in this new tally.

Some of the reader emails were urgent — “PLEASE, PLEASE REVISE YOUR ARTICLE TO REFLECT THESE INSURGENT SEDITIONISTS PLEASE!” read one — underscoring how communities across the country are still grappling with the fallout from the siege of the U.S. Capitol. Many are hoping that these officials will somehow face consequences for their actions.

Nearly all 57 are facing calls to resign. Yet only two men, both of whom were arrested for their role in the riot — a member of the West Virginia House of Delegates and a secretary of the California Republican Assembly — have actually stepped down.

Elsewhere, a Virginia state senator was censured and stripped of committee assignments. Two other censure attempts — of a city councilwoman and a school board member in California — were voted down. In Texas, a Pizzagate-conspiracy-theory-believing field organizer was fired.

In most cases, the GOP officials have brushed aside calls to resign. “For a call to go out seeking my resignation is beyond the pale and reeks of cancel culture,” said Rob Socha, a city councilman in Hillsdale, Michigan. (Incidentally, at least four of the 57 GOP officials invoked “cancel culture” or being “canceled” while dismissing calls that they step down.)

All across the country, accountability feels hard to find, including in Washington itself, where a Senate impeachment trial against Trump for inciting the insurrection is all but assured to end in a party-line vote for acquittal. (Trump’s lawyers have also invoked “cancel culture” during the proceedings.)

In the mob on Jan. 6, according to HuffPost’s analysis, were, at least, 16 Republican members of state houses or assemblies, four state senators, a state attorney general, six county commissioners, seven city council members, two mayors, three school board members, two state GOP chairs, two prosecutors and a slew of other officials and party functionaries. The group also included an extremist sheriff from Oklahoma who discussed harming members of Congress, a town council member from Massachusetts who is closely affiliated with the violent neo-fascist gang the Proud Boys and a county commissioner from Florida who once discussed beheading liberals.

Only a few breached the Capitol property itself, with four GOP officials having since been arrested on charges including “knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds” and disorderly conduct. The rest of the officials have since largely condemned the violence that occurred that day, insisting they were nowhere near the chaos or claiming they’d already returned to their hotels or boarded buses home before the rioters started ransacking the seat of American democracy, leading to the deaths of five people.

Many have since sought to avoid responsibility for their part in it all. Of the 57 GOP officials identified as being at the rally, afterward at least 20 pushed the false conspiracy theory that “antifa,” or leftist anti-fascists, actually started the violence — a claim that’s been rendered increasingly absurd with the arrests of about 200 Trump supporters since Jan. 6.

Meanwhile, Republicans continue to cast the Capitol rioters as a lunatic fringe who do not represent the party. But the party’s complicity comes into clearer focus each day, as do the demographics of those who traveled to Washington on Jan. 6: It was an overwhelmingly white, heavily armed, petit bourgeois and middle-aged mob marching alongside dyed-in-the-wool white nationalists and other extremists, as well as dozens of cops, all with a single-minded focus on keeping their perceived political enemies — Democrats — from acquiring power.

It was a perfect representation of the GOP.

Here are the 57 state and local Republican officials who were at the Jan. 6 rally, including one official whose attendance had previously gone unreported. (This list does not include the federal lawmakers in attendance.)

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/57-gop-officials-at-capitol-insurrection_n_6026e5e2c5b6f88289fb90a6

#cultoftrump

Who cares if they were there? Lot's of people were there. AOC was there.

There you go with your fake news spin. And I'm sure you don't care if they were among the crowd of insurrectionists. Republicans trying to overthrow a legitimate election is no big deal, right? Sad, just sad...

Carry on.

You can count on it.

Carry on

His caucus? What about he himself? He said that right after he himself voted to acquit.

You can count on it.

I know, that is why I say carry on

jc

More Republicans blame Biden for Capitol riot than fault Trump

Kathryn Krawczyk
Tue, February 16, 2021, 1:55 PM


Former President Donald Trump is already being rehabilitated in Republicans' minds.

In the days after hundreds of Trump's supporters attacked the U.S. Capitol building, the outgoing president's approval rating was at an all-time low. Republicans who once indicated they'd support him in 2024 were pulling away. A good fifth of his own party supported impeachment, and even more blamed him for the attack.

But more than a month and an impeachment acquittal later, that has changed, a Morning Consult/Politico poll out Tuesday reveals. While just 42 percent of Republicans said they'd support Trump in a potential 2024 run just days after the riot, 54 percent said this past weekend they'd back him again — the same proportion that supported Trump in the weeks after the 2020 election.


Republicans have also shifted the blame for the Capitol riot over the past few weeks. While 47 percent of the GOP said Trump was at least partly responsible for the riot when asked Jan. 6–7, just 27 percent said so when asked Feb. 14–15. Now, 46 percent of those Republican respondents actually blamed President Biden and 58 percent blamed Democrats in Congress. Just 27 percent blamed Republicans in Congress — many of whom had challenged the Jan. 6 electoral college vote certification.

Even before this poll was released, Trump's allies saw his reputation was back on the rise, and were amazed at just how quickly it was happening.

Morning Consult surveyed 1984 registered voters online Feb. 14–15, with a margin of error of two percent.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-republicans-blame-biden-capitol-185541501.html



It most certainly is Biden's fault. January 6th events never would have happened had he not won the election

Fact stranger than fiction. Un-bel-ievable.

Trump waged war against McConnell and the GOP today.

Ahh, it is glorious to watch. Republicans eating each other alive. It’s like a car wreck during a road trip. I just slow down, see what happens, and express “shock”.

You know, it’s funny. McConnell is very savvy and VERY opportunistic. He played this whole thing like a fiddle. You can definitely tell he has mastered the whole career politician thing. He delayed the trial, and, in the end he was able to double speak by saying he both protected Trump and condemned him at the same time to tie it all together and preserve his leverage over both factions.

And then the bull in the China shop showed up and wrote an op-Ed and blew the whole damn thing wide open.

Absolutely hilarious.

Fox and Trump supporters caring about facts and truth? Well it's a good start I guess.

It does not change Trump's actions leading to the insurgence.
It does not change the fact that this is the first time the peaceful transition of power has failed to happen.
It does not change the result of the most secure election in the nations history.

Until rabbid Biden supporters commit a violent insurrection killing at least five you’ll never have a dog in this fight bro. Everything trump and his insurrectionist supporters say from now on is distraction from the crimes they all committed and continue to try to sweep under the rug and coverup.

Rut-ro Karen!

Lmao yo I told y’all I love reading the whining in the comment section

These right wing crazies are losing it right now

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/02/22/clarence-thomas-dissent-election-cases/

Everyone is part of the deep state. They’re all paid off by China and they were closest never trumpers!!!

Hang him high.

Five big takeaways on the Capitol security hearings

Former Capitol security officials clashed publicly on Tuesday over the events surrounding last month’s deadly assault on the Capitol complex, casting blame at the intelligence community and the Pentagon while delivering conflicting accounts of how the tragedy unfolded.

Here are five takeaways from the day’s proceedings.

Congress will need to probe contradictions

There were major discrepancies between former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund and former House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving as they recounted their actions before and during the Jan. 6 attack. The two officials couldn’t even agree whether a phone call had taken place between them as rioters were breaking into the building.

Sund testified that two days before the attack, he approached both Irving and then-Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger to request aid from the National Guard. Irving said he was concerned about the “optics” of a military presence at the Capitol and didn’t feel the intelligence supported it, according to Sund.

Irving rejected Sund’s account, testifying that Sund’s impression was “categorically false” and that it was the “collective judgment” of the three men that the intelligence did not warrant calling in the Guard.

With the attack underway on Jan. 6, Sund testified that he had called Irving at 1:09 p.m. to seek approval from the House and Senate sergeants-at-arms to request help from the National Guard. Sund said other officials in his department personally witnessed him make the call.

But Irving said he was on the House floor at that time and doesn’t remember getting a call from Sund at 1:09. He also testified that his phone records do not show him receiving a call or text from Sund around that time. The first time he spoke to Sund that hour was at 1:28 p.m., said Irving. Irving then alerted Stenger and top aides to Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) about the need to call in the Guard. Irving said Sund did not make a formal request until after 2 p.m.

The alleged 1:09 phone call is of importance because some officials and lawmakers believe an earlier request could have prevented injuries or deaths.

Other House and Senate committees probing the attack could request or subpoena phone records that could clear up the discrepancy, shedding more light on the credibility of the two officials.

FBI warning of ‘war’ never reached police chiefs

There were numerous intelligence failures on Jan. 6, but one of the most glaring is the fact that the U.S. Capitol Police (USCP) and D.C. Metro police chiefs had not seen an FBI report sent Jan. 5 warning that pro-Trump protesters were preparing for “war” at the Capitol.

The FBI’s field office in Norfolk, Va., had issued a Jan. 5 bulletin detailing specific calls for violence at the Capitol, including urging protesters go to the Capitol “ready for war.”

Sund testified that he only learned in the past 24 hours that Capitol Police had received the bulletin. An officer assigned to the Joint Terrorism Task Force with the FBI received the report, which then was forwarded to an official at the Intelligence Division at U.S. Capitol Police headquarters. But it was never sent up the chain of command.

Acting D.C. Metro Police Chief Robert Contee and the two sergeants-at-arms also had not seen the FBI memo. Contee said his department did receive an email from the FBI, but that he believed “something as violent as an insurrection at the Capitol would warrant a phone call,” noting that he leaves his mobile phone on 24 hours a day so he can be available.

The attack was highly coordinated

The insurrectionists came to the Capitol wearing tactical gear and carrying firearms, bats, shields, bear spray and other weapons. They brought climbing gear so they could get past some of the Capitol’s security features. And they communicated with handheld radios and hand signals.

The security officials testified that is all evidence of a highly coordinated and planned assault, and not a spontaneous act. And they suggested, as a result, it was not a failure of planning that led to the anarchic scene at the Capitol.

“The breach of the United States Capitol was not the result of poor planning or failure to contain a demonstration gone wrong. No single civilian law enforcement agency – and certainly not the USCP – is trained and equipped to repel … an insurrection of thousands of armed, violent and coordinated individuals focused on breaching a building at all costs,” Sund said.

He also testified that pipe bombs discovered outside the Republican and Democratic headquarters near the Capitol were likely planted to draw officers away from the building.

Dozens of those charged in the Jan. 6 riot are members of the right-wing militant groups Oath Keepers, Proud Boys and Three Percenters.

The witnesses Tuesday “may have disagreed on some details, but there is clear agreement this was a planned insurrection,” said Senate Rules Committee Chairwoman Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), who noted it involved white supremacists and extremist groups and could have been even worse.

Controversy swirls around ‘The Ragin’ Cajun’

When Pelosi tapped Russel Honoré to lead an assessment of the Capitol’s security apparatus, it was seen as a safe and savvy bet. Honoré, a retired Army lieutenant general, had coordinated the federal response to Hurricane Katrina, and had won acclaim from both sides of the aisle in doing so.

But at Tuesday’s hearing, several Senate Republicans hammered Honoré, citing his recent comments declaring that a significant portion of the Capitol Police force are “Trumpsters,” while suggesting that leaders of the force were “complicit” in the Jan. 6 attack.

Sen. Josh Hawley (Mo.), who led the Republican effort to overturn the presidential election results on Jan. 6, was quick to highlight those comments, asking Sund, Stenger and Irving if they were complicit. All of them were adamant in their denials, and Sund went a step further to criticize Honoré for the remarks.

“I think it’s disrespectful to myself and to the members of the Capitol Police Department,” Sund said.

Capitol security fence is universally unpopular

If there is one issue that unites all sides almost two months after the attack, it’s that the imposing security fence equipped with coils of barbed wire surrounding the Capitol complex should come down.

Republicans have hammered the fencing as a Democratic ploy to create the impression that Trump supporters pose a severe and ongoing threat to the Capitol and its occupants, while Democrats say it limits access and makes a fortress of the country’s most celebrated emblem of democracy.

“This is a public building. And you want the school groups, and you want the veterans, and you want people to be able to visit here,” Klobuchar said. She called for “some smart security changes to the complex” but added that “no, it does not have to be barbed wire.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/540194-five-big-takeaways-on-the-capitol-security-hearings

Hawley asking any questions about any of this is a real hoot...

You have people complaining they don't like the look of barbed-wire fence around the Capitol building in a hearing investigating an armed insurrection taking that same building with the intention of committing a coup....

You have people trying to argue that even though the Capitol was taken by the likes of Viking Horn Guy, because there was planning involved the Capitol Police shouldn't be held responsible....


It's both incredible and horrifying how disconnected with reality these people actually are.

Yup... but then we have constituents who champion the disconnected politicians anyhow. It's really a mind-blowing dynamic.

"This guy cares nothing about me or my success, and is an objective embarrassment. 6 more years!"

Those officials who resigned did so to simply avoid prosecution in this case. Too bad for them, there’s a new sheriff in town.

The comments on that thread show how many crazy fools there are just wanting someone to lead them into a crusade against everything they don't like. They tiny % think it's their right to use force to overturn and rule over the masses who don't have the same perspective as themselves. It's sad and sickening.

No, it's not.

Happy Birthday!

Happy belated Birthday, Daman!


Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick. (United States Capitol Police via AP)


Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick’s Mother: ‘He Wasn’t Hit on the Head’ on Jan. 6


By Jack Phillips


February 23, 2021 Updated: February 24, 2021




The mother of Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick said her son was not beaten with a fire extinguisher by a mob on Jan. 6, saying he likely suffered a stroke instead—refuting reports from the New York Times and other outlets claiming otherwise.

“He wasn’t hit on the head, no. We think he had a stroke, but we don’t know anything for sure,” Gladys Sicknick told the Daily Mail in an exclusive interview on Feb. 22. “We’d love to know what happened.”

The NY Times, CNN, and NBC updated their reports weeks after the Jan. 6 breach to assert that Sicknick was not killed by a fire extinguisher. Originally, the NY Times reported, based on anonymous sources, that Sicknick was beaten to death.

According to the NY Times’ update in February, “New information has emerged regarding the death of the Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick that questions the initial cause of his death provided by officials close to the Capitol Police.” However, there were reports of new information emerging about the circumstances of Sicknick’s death around the same time the NY Times published its report on Jan. 8.

The allegation Sicknick was killed by a protester was cited during the House impeachment managers’ presentations and arguments that former President Donald Trump should be convicted in the Senate impeachment trial over his speech on Jan. 6. Since the Capitol breach, some pundits and elected officials have cited Sicknick’s death while pushing claims that new domestic terrorism laws are needed.

Sicknick’s brother also disputed the reports about his death in early January. “[Officer Sicknick] texted me last night and said, ‘I got pepper-sprayed twice,’ and he was in good shape,” his brother, Ken Sicknick, said to news outlets last month, appearing to dispute key details of the original NY Times report.

Medical examiners have not released an official report on Sicknick’s cause of death. An autopsy report also was not released.

Meanwhile, there have been no arrests related to the officer’s death, and officials have not released details about a potential suspect. And while the breach was captured via live-streaming video, there is no footage that surfaced of demonstrators hitting Sicknick with a fire extinguisher.

An official Capitol Police statement said that “officer Brian D. Sicknick passed away due to injuries sustained while on duty,” continuing to say, “Officer Sicknick was responding to the riots on Wednesday, January 6, 2021, at the US Capitol and was injured while physically engaging with protesters. He returned to his division office and collapsed. He was taken to a local hospital where he succumbed to his injuries.”

Investigative journalist Glenn Greenwald noted last week that Sicknick’s death was referenced so much because it is “the only example the media had of the pro-Trump mob deliberately killing anyone,” adding that “none of the other four deaths” during the riots “were at the hands of the protesters: the only other person killed with deliberate violence was a pro-Trump protester, Ashli Babbitt, unarmed when shot in the neck by a police officer at close range.” Two other protesters, according to officials, died of medical-related causes while another died allegedly due to a crush of fellow protesters.

The Epoch Times has reached out to the U.S. Capitol Police for comment.


https://www.theepochtimes.com/capitol-po...er_3707914.html

As if it makes a difference. We all know who’s side you are on and it’s not the USA. Sit down Jr.

Of Course AOC was there,.,. She was there doing her freaking job,.. So was Mike Pence, He was doing his job. Mitch was there, doing his job..

The arguments from the Right are getting worse and worse..

I disagree.