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What do you mean?

I assume you're asking about getting back to "normal"....

My wife and I have been relatively "good" regarding sticking to COVID protocols. Admittedly, this has more to do with her than I... but who's keeping score? (she is...)

We've been planning a vacation since forever ago (i.e. right before 'rona) with her sister and husband, and despite the uncertainty we kept the reservation. Now we're patting ourselves on the back because things are lining up well for us to actually enjoy that vacation without having to accept additional risk (my wife and I will be vaccinated, they should be but they've also been fairly strict in terms of masking,distancing). It also seems like as vaccines roll out, people are looking to take those vacations they put off.

We were never super-social people to begin with... but we are talking about starting up the dinners-date-night thing again once I'm officially vaccinated (3 more weeks until 2nd jab and then 2 weeks after that). We're also eventually going to resume our weekend trips up to Cleveland to see our respective families... but with my family being more, shall we say, care-free during the pandemic it'll take a little while longer.


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Got the J&J shot this morning, no symptoms, good to go for work tonight.

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Got the J&J shot this morning, no symptoms, good to go for work tonight.


Well got to work last night and the symptoms hit me pretty hard, severe fatigue, body aches all over, and a headache all night. Hope after a good day of sleep they will go away, if not a covid shot sick tonight.

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JnJ is/will be a gamechanger in this regard.



It will. It will double the speed at which people are fully vaccinated.


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My symptoms from the Moderna #2 didn't hit until very late at night after receiving it in the morning. Take some Tylenol or Motrin. It shouldn't last long.


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Sorry, I meant any plans on getting the vaccine, but it seems like you already got the first dose.

I was contemplating just seeing if I could get on a wait list somewhere for no-shows.


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Got my first shot today. Moderna.

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Lol... but I'm sure you were still interested in reading about my social life coming out of hibernation.... :-p


Yeah, company I work for was able to get us categorized as 'essential-ish', I guess. I don't understand how/why this happened, but I decided I'm just not going to look a gift horse in the mouth. If nothing else, I won't have to be part of the mad rush when they open up the vaccine to the majority of the eligible population.


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I did actually. This past year has been hard for a heavy extrovert like me, so I like to live vicariously. smile

That's good about your company. I work as a civilian for the USAF, but the base is pretty much following along with Ohio. The only people deemed essential there are the ones who have to show up on site every day (SCIF, air crew, etc.).

Any chance your company wants has an open position for a 30 day length of employment where I would have no duties, but also not get paid?


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What can I expect after my 2nd shot in 4 weeks?

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If the first few months of my time here are any indication... yes, but you would get paid. :-p


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I got Pfizer #1 today. I’ll update tomorrow.


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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/11/pfizer-c...fizer%20vaccine

Study in Israel indicates that the Pfizer vaccine is pretty good at preventing transmission.


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What can I expect after my 2nd shot in 4 weeks?


Go back in this thread and read my account of my post jab #2. It’s wasn’t the best weekend but it was not that bad. I’ve certainly felt worse/been sicker in my life.


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What can I expect after my 2nd shot in 4 weeks?


8 of the 9 people in my extended family got the Pfizer with no side effects. My 95 year old aunt was the only one not to get the Pfizer and she also had no issues.


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What can I expect after my 2nd shot in 4 weeks?


If you're like most folks, about a days worth of aches,chills and fatigue hitting you 12-24hrs after getting it. It varies quite a bit in severity.


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I thank all that responded to me. The side effects of the shot are better than contracting the virus. Lesser of 2 evils so to speak.

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j/c...

For anyone from Michigan. Also, DeWine mentions he anticipated restrictions/mandates being lifted in 7-8 weeks...


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TTT... if you would, please come back and tell us which vaccine you received, along with a report on any side effects.
Through open conversation and real life reporting, we can hopefully calm other’s fears and inhibitions towards receiving the vaccine.

You can read my full post vaccine report in this, or one of the other COVID related threads on the board.
A quick update. My mom, 74 years old, received her first Moderna vaccine recently. No side effects other than a sore shoulder. She gets her next jab on the 19th. She’s a little nervous after hearing other’s reports, including mine, about the common side effects from the second Moderna jab. I hopefully brought some calm to her by reporting my findings related to fewer adverse side effects are being noted in older, 65+, recipients. The body typically doesn’t (is unable to) mount such a big immune response at those ages.


Got home 30 mins ago. 1hr into my 1st shot(Phizer) I feel nothin. No aches, no pains, etc.

Perhaps a bit lightheaded.

On the proverbial 1-10 lightheaded scale? Prob about a 1 to a 1.5.

2nd shot scheduled in a few.

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I get COVID tested for work regularly. Yesterday I had my first test since my second vaccine. Negative for COVID, and my blood shows a strong antibody load. So I know my vaccine ‘took’. Good to know.


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Good news Portland. If you don't mind me asking what vaccine did you get?

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The Moderna.


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That's the one I got last Thursday. I'm getting the 2nd one in 3 weeks.

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My son is 24, works in restaurant management so he is in the phase to get vaccinated now.

He made the appointment at Walgreens, showed up, they made him fill out some paperwork. The last question was, "Why do you need the vaccine?" He told them but they essentially took his word for it. They didn't require any employment verification or anything.


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I had the opposite experience. The place where I got my shot ran a tight ship. There was a line at the door to get to the line to check in, and they wouldn't let people in the building if you were more than 10 minutes early for your appointment.

Checked my company ID against my driver's license twice (at the door and at check-in). I was sweating a little bit because, even though I followed what our HR rep told us to a 'T', I still had some lingering doubt as to why I was able to receive the vaccine early.


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We're going to find out soon if we've sorted through our supply and logistics issues.


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Got my first dose today at 2pm at one of the local krogers. I got the Pfizer shot and 2nd dose set for the 6th. Nothing so far as side effects. Like TTT said, a little lightheadedness but that could be because I skipped lunch beforehand.

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Got my first dose today at 2pm at one of the local krogers. I got the Pfizer shot and 2nd dose set for the 6th. Nothing so far as side effects. Like TTT said, a little lightheadedness but that could be because I skipped lunch beforehand.


I went straight to the appt.....no breakfast/food for a while as well/since last night.

Now, still no real side affects. Mood is perhaps a little "woebegone".

Then again it could be because still no food today. I generally never eat till 5:30/6pm

8ish hrs later.....still a touch of woebegone.

Pfizer here as well, and like you, 2nd shot on the 6th.

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I like that your 2nd appointments are set. Here we have to schedule our own.

I can go on or after the 26th, but that date hasn't opened as of yet.


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Received my first dose of the Moderna vaccine yesterday afternoon. No real side effects to speak of. Slight soreness in my arm but very minor.


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I received the Johnson and Johnson yesterday (it is the one dose vaccine) .. I felt completely fine all evening.

Then I woke up around midnight INCREDIBLY sick. Chills, aches, headache ... perhaps the most sick I’ve ever felt in my life. If that’s what Covid feels like, even in a small scale, it’s debilitating for those who get a bad case.

I feel about “half” better this afternoon, but still really sore and have a headache. Not a great experience.


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Same with me. I had my 1st shot last Thursday. I'm going for the 2nd Moderna in 3 weeks.

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I will say that I did have trouble sleeping. I think it was Portland who also had that side effect. Trouble going to sleep and waking up often during the night. Once I was awake I had trouble going back to sleep.

I can't say for sure it was related to the vaccine but it's certainly abnormal for me.


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Two mouthwashes disrupt COVID-19 virus under laboratory conditions

Reviewed by Emily Henderson, B.Sc.Mar 17 2021

Researchers at Rutgers School of Dental Medicine have found evidence that two types of mouthwash disrupt the COVID-19 virus under laboratory conditions, preventing it from replicating in a human cell.

The study, published in the journal Pathogens, found that Listerine and the prescription mouthwash Chlorhexidine disrupted the virus within seconds after being diluted to concentrations that would mimic actual use. Further studies are needed to test real-life efficacy in humans.

The study was conducted in a lab using concentrations of the mouthwash and the time it would take to contact tissues to replicate conditions found in the mouth, said Daniel H. Fine, the paper's senior author and chair of the school's Department of Oral Biology.

The study found two other mouthwashes showed promise in potentially providing some protection in preventing viral transmission: Betadine, which contains povidone iodine, and Peroxal, which contains hydrogen peroxide. However, only Listerine and Chlorhexidine disrupted the virus with little impact on skin cells inside the mouth that provide a protective barrier against the virus.

Both Povidone iodine and Peroxal caused significant skin cell death in our studies, while both Listerine and Chlorhexidine had minimal skin cell killing at concentrations that simulated what would be found in daily use."

The team studied the efficacy of mouthwash potential for preventing viral transmission to better understand how dental providers can be protected from aerosols exhaled by patients. "As dentists, we're right there in a patient's face. We wanted to know if there's something that might lower the viral load,'' said coauthor Eileen Hoskin, an assistant professor at Rutgers School of Dental Medicine.

Fine cautions the public against relying on mouthwash as a way to slow the spread until it is proven in clinical trials on humans.

The effect of short-term exposure to mouth rinses on the viability of HeLa-hACE2 and oral epithelial cells. Human angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (hACE2)-expressing HeLa cells (A) and oral epithelial TR146 cells (B) were treated for 20 s with different dilutions (v/v) of products including Listerine, chlorhexidine gluconate (CHG), Colgate Peroxyl, or povidone-iodine. Cells were washed and cultured with fresh medium immediately. Cell viability was determined by the 3-(4,5-dimethylthiazol-2-yl)-5-(3-carboxymethoxyphenyl)-2-(4-sulfophenyl)-2H-tetrazolium, inner salt (MTS)-based CellTiter 96 AQueous One Solution Cell Proliferation Assay. Data are means ±SD of three samples. The significance of differences between mouth rinse-treated cells and mocked-treated controls was compared; * p < 0.05.
The effect of short-term exposure to mouth rinses on the viability of HeLa-hACE2 and oral epithelial cells. Human angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (hACE2)-expressing HeLa cells (A) and oral epithelial TR146 cells (B) were treated for 20 s with different dilutions (v/v) of products including Listerine, chlorhexidine gluconate (CHG), Colgate Peroxyl, or povidone-iodine. Cells were washed and cultured with fresh medium immediately. Cell viability was determined by the 3-(4,5-dimethylthiazol-2-yl)-5-(3-carboxymethoxyphenyl)-2-(4-sulfophenyl)-2H-tetrazolium, inner salt (MTS)-based CellTiter 96 AQueous One Solution Cell Proliferation Assay. Data are means ±SD of three samples. The significance of differences between mouth rinse-treated cells and mocked-treated controls was compared; * p < 0.05.

"The ultimate goal would be to determine whether rinsing two or three times a day with an antiseptic agent with active anti-viral activity would have the potential to reduce the ability to transmit the disease. But this needs to be investigated in a real-world situation,'' he said.

Previous research has shown various types of antiseptic mouthwashes can disrupt the novel coronavirus and temporarily prevent transmission, but this was one of the first studies that examined antiseptic rinse concentrations, time of contact and the skin-cell killing properties that simulated oral conditions. The study was conducted by a team of dental school scientists and virologist at the Public Health Research Institute.

"Since the SARS CoV-2 virus responsible for COVID-19 enters primarily through the oral and nasal cavity, oral biologists should be included in these studies because they have an in-depth understanding of oral infectious diseases," said Fine.

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I went to the dentist for a cleaning two weeks ago. They made me rinse with a peroxide solution before they started working on me for this exact reason.
The entire experience was weirdly surreal... as compared to our ‘new norm’. It was the first time in a year I’ve taken my mask off in an enclosed/indoor space, other than my own home. I won’t lie it was a strange feeling. Though I’m vaccinated and they had a ton of safety measures in place it still felt a little unsettling. It was a similar gut feeling I got after swimming with sharks in the Keys. I was glad to have done it, but I was glad when it was over. Lol


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Got my 2nd Pfizer this morning. We'll see...

My wife got her 2nd shot of Moderna two weeks ago around 10am on a Friday morning and her side affects started around midnight. She was a zombie until Saturday night. She took 8 naps, had trouble moving around and had a terrible headache. I made her a cheeseburger for lunch, but she only ate half. She was "back to normal" mid-day Sunday.

I think we're planning on hosting a birthday part for me in mid-to-late April with family that have been vaccinated, but damn, that's going to feel weird. I am/was a high risk person, so we were shut off for most of the year. We still went to the dentist and visited family outdoors, but we haven't been in someone's house since Feb 2020. Hoping this will help.


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Viruses are easy to kill with any disinfectant. That is why there is so much chatter about hand washing.

Good to know that mouthwash does the trick. A shot of your favorite liquor would probably do the trick as well..


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