Bad situation all the way around. The only good thing is that more people were not hurt.
Not all the way around. Bad all the way around would have been for the office to allow the girl to stab people a few times, them himself before shooting her.
This case is the perfect example of the fine line cops face on a regular basis.
Do you shoot or do you stand there like a dummy until the perp harms someone first?
There is only a split second to make that decision. Sometimes wrong decisions are made, but I can't say they made a bad decision.
A good example of that would be when the cop killed that kid in Cleveland who started to point a plastic gun at the cop.
Turned out to be the wrong decision, but in that split second it couldn't be called a bad decision.
Last edited by Ballpeen; 04/23/2108:13 AM.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Joking about a death is really cool. Perfect example of what "white cops" are faced with in black communities ALL the time.
As others stated, does he wait to have himself or others stabbed before he shoots. JMHO, No, he saved lives maybe. It is sad a human being died, a young female, but what would have been the response if he hadn't fired and a citizen had been stabbed and killed while he waited to shot. A no win problem. Again, you couldn't pay me enough to have their job. Pray for everyone.
"You've never lived till you've almost died, life has a flavor the protected will never know" A vet or cop
Distortion would be pretending he wasn't saying what he was saying. When you specify which neighborhoods cops are are always facing this situation in by color, you just made a comment based on color. It's pretty simple actually.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
LeBron is a disgusting racist. Without ANY facts, he concluded that the shooting was racially-motivated with his only knowledge being that a white cop shot a black person. Then he threatened the police officer. That asshat should be arrested.
The reality is that in any high-profile incident since BO's Beer Summit BS, these incidents have been initially and immediately declared to be racially-motivated (or "the cops acted stupidly" in BO's case) while there has not been a single investigation or shred of evidence that indicates the police did what they did because of race. Not a single one.
Our newest BO has declared to the world that blinders have been ripped off and told the world we are a racist nation - as a result of the Chauvin trial. Yet in Floyd's death - just like every other police-involved killing of the past 10+ years, there is ZERO indication that race played a factor in the outcome.
There only seems to be two conclusions to your previous post. Either you feel there are no racist cops or you feel there are racist cops who do not act on their racism.
Statistics show that race does play a factor. Per capita a black man is about three times as likely to die at the hands of the police. To me that is evidence. It seems as though that doesn't show you that racism plays any factor.
Now does that mean racism plays a factor into all of them?80% of them, 50% of them? 20% of them? Of that I have no idea. But to try and say without some type of concrete evidence that racism doesn't play a part in any of it I think is quite naive.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
My goodness...here's the point of the words I actually wrote:
The POTUS, politicians, movie stars and athletes are running around stating that the USA is a racist nation due to the acts of a white police officer being involved in an incident where a black person died while under arrest.
Go that?
They state this existence of 'racism' as FACT when no evidence or investigation has revealed even a hint of racism being why the police did what they did. Maybe race actually WAS a factor...no one knows...but that point doesn't matter to the narrative. Even if racism WAS a factor, the actions of one white cop does not indicate that cops are racists...let alone that the entire nation is racist.
You can move the goal posts around all you want...but a conclusion has been drawn and a nation turned on its ear over said conclusion made without any evidence of racism other than an incident between a white cop and a black man. A conclusion such as that with NO evidence is what racism looks like...and that idiot LeBron doubled down on it.
So you don't think voting restrictions, closing polling locations in black communities, much longer wait times in black communities, aren't a part of the overall picture when people claim we live in a racist nation?
And let me clue you in, it's not based on "one cop in one incident". I can see how if you try and narrow your focus down to a single event you might feel that way. But it's much bigger than that.
LeBron was wrong with his comment. And there are certainly a small percentage of people who make the claims you state. But let's not pretend that speaks for everyone on the left or that it's based on a single event. This is merely the culmination of what's been going on for a very long time.
You may feel differently if every time you went out at night you were afraid that if you got pulled over you may not make it home safe. There's a portion of our society that feels that way and history gives them a reason to do so.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
So you don't think voting restrictions, closing polling locations in black communities, much longer wait times in black communities, aren't a part of the overall picture when people claim we live in a racist nation?
I'm not going to get into the goalpost-moving game with you so you can have the last word after this one.
Not one thing you used as an example above has been proven to be/exist due to someone's act of racism.
I find it curious.... what if it was a black cop That arrived on the scene and the participants Were white? Would there be a different reaction across the board? Or why is when blacks kill each other....black Public figures like LeBron James say very little?
In Akron last year there was a record number of Homicides regarding black on black crime I think LeBron paid for a funeral for one victim Only because her brother worked for the Cavs
So you don't think voting restrictions, closing polling locations in black communities, much longer wait times in black communities, aren't a part of the overall picture when people claim we live in a racist nation?
I'm not going to get into the goalpost-moving game with you so you can have the last word after this one.
Not one thing you used as an example above has been proven to be/exist due to someone's act of racism.
He has always been like that, but is worse now.
The problem is the entire left is like that.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
If people would step up to the plate and admit that our society, as it pertains to policing, voting and other parts of our society have a racial bias this wouldn't be necessary, but you won't.
You act is if it's one side that keeps pushing an agenda. Yet another thing you refuse to admit is a two way street. Keep blaming one side while you promote a side that's certainly no better.
It wasn't be who singled out "black neighborhoods" that cops are afraid of. And not a peep about that from you.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
To many, when they hear the word "Racist" they think white supremist, active hatred against people of other races, etc.
When I think, as Pit used in his last post, "Racial Bias" is a better term, or prejudice. Regardless of dictionary definitions, there are stigmas and interpretations attached to certain words, and IMO, that is why some get very defensive when the word racism is used to describe someone, something, or some group, they are interpreting it a certain way.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
If people would step up to the plate and admit that our society, as it pertains to policing, voting and other parts of our society have a racial bias this wouldn't be necessary, but you won't.
You act is if it's one side that keeps pushing an agenda. Yet another thing you refuse to admit is a two way street. Keep blaming one side while you promote a side that's certainly no better.
It wasn't be who singled out "black neighborhoods" that cops are afraid of. And not a peep about that from you.
If I was a cop, I wouldn't want to be working black neighborhoods in the big cities. There is a lot of downside to that. That isn't a racist comment. That is just a fact.
As a non-policeman, there are a lot of neighborhoods I choose to avoid, and the basic racial demographics don't have anything to do with it...crime is what keeps me away. Why the heck do I want to hang out there?
Last edited by Ballpeen; 04/25/2102:08 PM.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
If I was a cop, I wouldn't want to be working black neighborhoods in the big cities.
I'm not the one who posted this.
Let me clue you in here about rural verses the big city. Here are some of the highest murder rates per capita in our nation and the average income in those places.
2. Coahoma County, Mississippi
Homicide rate: 37 homicides per 100,000 people Median household income: $28,851 Clarksdale crime index: 2 out of 100
Cahoma County is one of two counties from Mississippi to make the top 10. Even as a small county with just over 25,000 residents, Cahoma County is no stranger to violent crime. The county seat of Clarksdale had over 150 violent crimes in 2015, and with a population of about 16,000; that means almost 1 violent crime for every 100 residents. 35 percent of residents of Clarksdale live below the poverty line, and 1 in 5 residents are not high school graduates. 3. Phillips County, Arkansas
Homicide rate: 34 homicides per 100,000 people Median household income: $26,844 Helena-West Helena crime index: 2 out of 100
Phillips County is another rural county to make this list, with a population of just under 22,000. The county seat is Helena-West Helena. Neighborhood Scout gives Helena-West Helena a crime index of just 2 out of 100, thanks in large part to 166 violent crimes in a population of just over 11,000. In addition to having the lowest median household income on this list, just 77.1 percent Helena-West Helena have a high school diploma, also lowest among these cities.
6. Petersburg City, Virginia
Homicide rate: 32 homicides per 100,000 people Median household income: $31,798 Petersburg crime index: 10 out of 100
Petersburg is an independent town with a population just over 30,000, making it the smallest independent city on the list. Just 77.9 percent of residents have a high school diploma in Petersburg, and 28 percent of residents live in poverty. Petersburg also has a high rate of property crime, and their unemployment rate has stayed above the national average since 2001. 7. Macon County, Alabama (tie)
Homicide rate: 27 homicides per 100,000 people Median household income of county seat: $30,738 Tuskegee crime index: 3 out of 100
Macon County is another rural area to make this list with a population just over 21,00 and the first of two Alabama counties in the top 10. In recent years, the unemployment rate has been well above the national average, including a high mark of 18.9 percent unemployment in January of 2010, when the national rate was 10.6. While the county has an 89 percent high school graduation rate, the median household income is just $30,738 in the county - which puts 25.9 percent of residents below the poverty line. In the county seat of Tuskegee, the odds of being a victim of all violent crime are 1 in 97.
9. Washington County, Mississippi (tie)
Homicide rate: 25 homicides per 100,000 people Median household income of county seat: $29,144 Greenville crime index: 2 out of 100
Washington County is home to over 50,000 people. Washington County suffers from consistently high unemployment rates, hovering between 8 and 18 percent since 2008. Over one-third of residents live in poverty in the county seat of Greenville and just 78.7 residents have a high school diploma. Greenville in recent decades has seen a rise in gang activity, much of it coming by way of Chicago. 9. Dallas County, Alabama (tie)
Homicide rate: 25 homicides per 100,000 people Median household iIncome: $27,306 Selma crime index: 0 out of 100
Dallas County has a long history of violence, and in recent years, the area has encountered a spike in gang-related violence in some of the county’s poorest communities. The median income of Dallas County is the second lowest on this list. The unemployment rate of Dallas County is among the worst on this list, reaching over 22 percent just after the start of the great recession and rarely falling below 9 percent since. The crime index of zero makes the county seat of Selma the most dangerous city for overall crime on this list.
So both parts of your comment, the "black" and the "cities" parts are both moot points. But you keep focusing on that because that seems to be the two common themes in your quote.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
That's wonderful. At random I checked in to 3 of your examples. I wouldn't want to work or visit there either. So you are right, the problem is pretty much universal.
Last edited by Ballpeen; 04/25/2106:20 PM.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
If people would step up to the plate and admit that our society, as it pertains to policing, voting and other parts of our society have a racial bias this wouldn't be necessary, but you won't.
If anyone has been wondering why we have such division in this country, all you have to do is read that quote.
Just stop thinking for yourself and accept what the liberals tell you to think and why/how to think...then everything will be ok...not. If you go against the liberal mantra, the only explanation is that you must be racially biased. Progress. Here's one...well two:
If people would just admit that physically challenging a police officer comes-with-it a high likelihood that you'll get hurt...and that voting is both a privilege and a right that should be protected...and that both points apply to everyone in this country...then this claim of blanket-bias wouldn't garner headlines and clicks...but some won't.
That's why many black areas wait for hours to vote while you don't. Purely an accident that happens over and over and over again. You can use any excuse to blind yourself.
You can excuse that resisting arrest, a crime punishable by one year year in prison is an excuse for murder. All of that seems to be working well for you so far.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
It doesn't fit the agenda to say a cop saves a life.
BS! I'm politically aligned with rocket and I said it. Stupid statements like that are why nobody takes you serious anymore. You've just become that miserable old man on his porch yelling at school kids to stay off his lawn... smh
I know you did. I was speaking in generic terms. As to people not taking me seriously anymore, some do and I am not all that concerned with the others.
I am not saying that in a mean spirited way. Just a matter of fact way.
Yours is one of the few opinions on here that I can respect! doesn't matter the subject but I've never seen a place that leaned as far LEFT as this board!
The Views Expressed By Me Are Not Necessarily The Views That You Will Agree With, I'm In My Own Little World But They Know Me Here.
I've had to wait several hours before. In this last election it took about 1.5 hours and from what I could see, there were only 3-4 black people in the line.
Are you trying to say it would have been quicker if those black people weren't in the line? LOL That's a joke.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
I'm saying that's nothing compared to six or even eight hours. And now they even have a law where you can't even give them a drink of water while they're standing in line. In the same places as it's always been. I know you can see it Peen.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Given that you likely only hang around people who are of the same view, I'm not surprised that you think that. To you (and probably many others), this board is so "FAR LEFT" while others also seem to think it's prevalent with racists and fascists.
As far as I'm concerned, if we're all a little uncomfortable, but open to discussion, then we're doing it right.
Too often, people refuse to acknowledge that their world views may be incorrect. I know mine probably is.
We are all indoctrinated on something and reinforced as we get older and it becomes a core principle, and when challenged, our amygdala perceives it as an existential threat, hence all the shouting matches on here.
It's a basic instinct. However, we are one of the few species that actually has the capacity to outweigh our core instincts with logic and reason when we acknowledge anomalies in common sense. That has become overpowered by the rising use of fear and anger porn in modern media which seeks to control by enveloping us in our basic instincts, but we do have the ability to still rise from that.
For that reason, I do appreciate this board.
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If I was a cop, I wouldn't want to be working black neighborhoods in the big cities.
I'm not the one who posted this.
Let me clue you in here about rural verses the big city. Here are some of the highest murder rates per capita in our nation and the average income in those places.
2. Coahoma County, Mississippi
Homicide rate: 37 homicides per 100,000 people Median household income: $28,851 Clarksdale crime index: 2 out of 100
Cahoma County is one of two counties from Mississippi to make the top 10. Even as a small county with just over 25,000 residents, Cahoma County is no stranger to violent crime. The county seat of Clarksdale had over 150 violent crimes in 2015, and with a population of about 16,000; that means almost 1 violent crime for every 100 residents. 35 percent of residents of Clarksdale live below the poverty line, and 1 in 5 residents are not high school graduates. 3. Phillips County, Arkansas
Homicide rate: 34 homicides per 100,000 people Median household income: $26,844 Helena-West Helena crime index: 2 out of 100
Phillips County is another rural county to make this list, with a population of just under 22,000. The county seat is Helena-West Helena. Neighborhood Scout gives Helena-West Helena a crime index of just 2 out of 100, thanks in large part to 166 violent crimes in a population of just over 11,000. In addition to having the lowest median household income on this list, just 77.1 percent Helena-West Helena have a high school diploma, also lowest among these cities.
6. Petersburg City, Virginia
Homicide rate: 32 homicides per 100,000 people Median household income: $31,798 Petersburg crime index: 10 out of 100
Petersburg is an independent town with a population just over 30,000, making it the smallest independent city on the list. Just 77.9 percent of residents have a high school diploma in Petersburg, and 28 percent of residents live in poverty. Petersburg also has a high rate of property crime, and their unemployment rate has stayed above the national average since 2001. 7. Macon County, Alabama (tie)
Homicide rate: 27 homicides per 100,000 people Median household income of county seat: $30,738 Tuskegee crime index: 3 out of 100
Macon County is another rural area to make this list with a population just over 21,00 and the first of two Alabama counties in the top 10. In recent years, the unemployment rate has been well above the national average, including a high mark of 18.9 percent unemployment in January of 2010, when the national rate was 10.6. While the county has an 89 percent high school graduation rate, the median household income is just $30,738 in the county - which puts 25.9 percent of residents below the poverty line. In the county seat of Tuskegee, the odds of being a victim of all violent crime are 1 in 97.
9. Washington County, Mississippi (tie)
Homicide rate: 25 homicides per 100,000 people Median household income of county seat: $29,144 Greenville crime index: 2 out of 100
Washington County is home to over 50,000 people. Washington County suffers from consistently high unemployment rates, hovering between 8 and 18 percent since 2008. Over one-third of residents live in poverty in the county seat of Greenville and just 78.7 residents have a high school diploma. Greenville in recent decades has seen a rise in gang activity, much of it coming by way of Chicago. 9. Dallas County, Alabama (tie)
Homicide rate: 25 homicides per 100,000 people Median household iIncome: $27,306 Selma crime index: 0 out of 100
Dallas County has a long history of violence, and in recent years, the area has encountered a spike in gang-related violence in some of the county’s poorest communities. The median income of Dallas County is the second lowest on this list. The unemployment rate of Dallas County is among the worst on this list, reaching over 22 percent just after the start of the great recession and rarely falling below 9 percent since. The crime index of zero makes the county seat of Selma the most dangerous city for overall crime on this list.
So both parts of your comment, the "black" and the "cities" parts are both moot points. But you keep focusing on that because that seems to be the two common themes in your quote.
Do you honestly have to act like you don't see what he's saying here! If I was a cop there's no way I'd want to work black neighborhoods. Just look at this incident, white cop is initially crucified for killing black teen. If the victim had been white we wouldn't be talking about this today! FACT
The Views Expressed By Me Are Not Necessarily The Views That You Will Agree With, I'm In My Own Little World But They Know Me Here.
Given that you likely only hang around people who are of the same view, I'm not surprised that you think that. To you (and probably many others), this board is so "FAR LEFT" while others also seem to think it's prevalent with racists and fascists.
As far as I'm concerned, if we're all a little uncomfortable, but open to discussion, then we're doing it right.
Too often, people refuse to acknowledge that their world views may be incorrect. I know mine probably is.
We are all indoctrinated on something and reinforced as we get older and it becomes a core principle, and when challenged, our amygdala perceives it as an existential threat, hence all the shouting matches on here.
It's a basic instinct. However, we are one of the few species that actually has the capacity to outweigh our core instincts with logic and reason when we acknowledge anomalies in common sense. That has become overpowered by the rising use of fear and anger porn in modern media which seeks to control by enveloping us in our basic instincts, but we do have the ability to still rise from that.
For that reason, I do appreciate this board.
I'm around all types of people of all types of views everyday but this board is 90-10 LEFT!
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