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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
I tend to agree with you. I think it's more likely this move relegates Mack Wilson's role on the defense.


I don't think Mack Wilson will be on the team.

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That would scare the hell out of me.


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I like the versatility of the LBs and safeties. That allows you to do so much


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I tend to agree with you. I think it's more likely this move relegates Mack Wilson's role on the defense.


I don't think Mack Wilson will be on the team.


Poor guy. He sells the hell out of himself on Twitter, too!

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The Browns do not value the...... Never mind.


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Owusu-Koramoah won the 2020 Dick Butkus Award as the top linebacker in college football. The first-team All-American led Notre Dame with 11 tackles for loss and three forced fumbles, while also recording 62 total tackles, 1.5 sacks, one interception and three pass breakups in 12 starts.

A Hampton, Virginia, native, Owusu-Koramoah redshirted his first season and appeared in just two games in 2018 before a breakout 2019 campaign in which he led the team with 80 tackles and 13.5 tackles for loss. His three-sack performance in the Camping World Bowl to cap the season served as an omen for what was to come in 2020.

Owusu-Koramoah was also finalist for the Nagurski Trophy, Bednarik Award and Lott IMPACT Trophy in 2020. He was also named ACC Defensive Player of the Year.

NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah ranked Owusu-Koramoah as the No. 18 overall prospect in the draft. Pro Football Focus ranked him at No. 19.

The Browns acquired the pick to select Owusu-Koramoah in a trade with the Carolina Panthers. Cleveland parted with the No. 59 pick and a third-round pick (No. 89) while also adding a fourth-round pick (No. 113) in the deal.

Owusu-Koramoah is the second player to join the Browns through the 2021 NFL Draft. Northwestern CB Greg Newsome (1st Round, No. 26) was selected Thursday.

The Browns are back on the clock in the third round with the No. 91 pick.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
The Browns do not value the...... Never mind.

For some reason you felt the need to say this twice in the thread. Neat.


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It's been impressive to see all the people who are Browns fans... several of the announcers have said they were Browns fans or they had a family member who was...


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We needed that aggressive center fielder against the run game and we got him at a bargain basement price. It's too bad Joe Woods doesn't value the LB'er position enough to have moved up to get this kid. wink


He can cover too.


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2021 NFL draft: The biggest steals in the second round

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/2021-nfl-draft-second-round-picks/

Cleveland Browns: Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB/S. Notre Dame (52nd overall pick)


In my final mock draft, I had Owusu-Koramoah going to the Browns… with the 26th overall pick. To get a player of Owusu-Koramoah’s excellence and versatility 26 picks later is not only an absurd example of player value, but it also fills two roles the Browns are trying to redefine — linebacker and safety, because Owusu-Koramoah can play both. He’s a plus thumper against the run, he can cover short and intermediate routes as a safety, and he’s more than credible in the slot. It will be fascinating to see how Browns defensive coordinator Joe Woods deploys Owusu-Koramoah, as the Browns will want to avoid the schematic schisms the Cardinals had with first-round defender Isaiah Simmons in 2020. The Simmons example may have been one reason Owusu-Koramoah dropped — perhaps teams are more reluctant to go all-in on positionless defenders unless they know exactly how to use them?


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[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/xcoKhKZvTp8[/video]

A great breakdown on this guy... Dude is solid first round talent

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[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/xcoKhKZvTp8[/video]

A great breakdown on this guy... Dude is solid first round talent
This was the first video I watched on JOK, and the reason I hoped the Browns would draft him.


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Is it possible he can be our Troy Polamalu? Just absolutely terrorizing QB's and eating up running backs? Finally getting real pay back against our AFC North rivals?


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I was thinking that too.


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Originally Posted By: Browns_Lonewolf
Is it possible he can be our Troy Polamalu? Just absolutely terrorizing QB's and eating up running backs? Finally getting real pay back against our AFC North rivals?


I was just going to say the same thing


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I am happy with the trade up for the pick. Ultra productive college play and a pass coverage specialist. We need someone to give RB’s and TE’s problems.

I would have been disappointed at the selection at 26, no issues with his selection at the point in the draft.

The video shows home lined up to cover Devonte Smith. Yikes. That says something..


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Don’t follow college football very much or read mocks - or even the DT draft forum. I did when we were always drafting top 3, but not when we draft in the 20s.

Never heard of the guy until two hours ago, but after reading about him here, watching some videos and getting opinions from DTers, I really like this pick. Looks like a baller to me. A strong tough athlete.


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It's highlights but still worth watching... Shows that he can cover and thump

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His legs are thick - he looks strong from the feet up / and he is fast. This will sound like hyperbole, fueled by brewskies on a Friday night, but he reminds me of MG: His stature, build and athleticism.

Edit: obviously not as big as Myles. But the MG of our back/middle end of the D.

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I’m just glad we’ve focused on speed and athleticism on both ends. We needed to get faster.


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That would scare the hell out of me.



Somebody is going to have to be cut. I am not saying it has to be Wilson. Maybe it's Redwine, or somebody else.

In the end, neither of Wilson or Taki are all that good, but I do understand your and others reservations. We have been conditioned that backers need to weigh 230+ pounds.

I guess my position is that speed is what matters in todays NFL. You don't need to put crushing hits on backs to make a tackle.


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It's been impressive to see all the people who are Browns fans... several of the announcers have said they were Browns fans or they had a family member who was...


The Browns are like country music. You have the fans, then the fans when it is cool to be a fan.

I am glad we finally have a bandwagon that people want to jump on.



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I am so thrilled about this pick.

Before the draft this is the guy I wanted. IMO he will be the steal in this draft.

This guy is picture perfect for this defense. I wanted him at 26. But completely understood the pick of Newsome.

To land JOK at 52 is just mind numbing. We are so lucky.

The reason we got him at 52 really does not matter.
It was all about scheme fit. He would not fit in a 3-4. He is not a traditional linebacker. He can play outside WILL and then play nickle. He is exactly the guy Woods needs.

Berry. Stefanski, Woods all come from a DB background.

JOK is a player that those guys can relate to.

The addition of Clowney, Takk, and Malik Jackson will add pressure.

We now have coverage all over the field. JOK at the second level.

JJ3, Ward, Newsome, Hill. The return of Delpit and Greedy. The late addition of Ronnie Harrison last year.

I hope everyone sees what this team is capable of.

I am over the top.

The best off season IMO that the Browns have ever had.




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This defense looks really good on paper.

Lets hope the HC & DC can get these guys in sync quick so it translates to a top 3 defense.


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Speed and coverage ability everywhere - 1st Air Cav - but these guys can also play the run. That roster isn't one dimensional, it isn't peppered with weaknesses or trade-offs to get us that good coverage.

I wanted no part of him at 26, and I'm still a little in the "why not just play a Safety?" boat, but at this point he's here and he was better than the Safeties on the board, so it's Win-Win-Win!

As long as he isn't so light that he gets caught in traffic a lot, this could be AMAZING.


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I wanted no part of him at 26, and I'm still a little in the "why not just play a Safety?"


He may certainly play like one, and be used like one, on the field.

The versatility with the secondary and now JOK, will be interesting to see unfold.


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Man that real is exciting to watch. Exactly what we need in the middle. Like... exactly.
My only quip... those big thump, non-wrap bump tackles will have to get dialed out of his game. Too many guys in the nfl can take those and keep their feet. Gotta wrap em up!




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I tend to agree with you. I think it's more likely this move relegates Mack Wilson's role on the defense.


I don't think Mack Wilson will be on the team.


Definitely going to be a hard sale on his part with his...err..3 special teams snaps last year.

Why is a depth LBer not pounding on the coaches' doors trying to get on the special teams unit?


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I tend to agree with you. I think it's more likely this move relegates Mack Wilson's role on the defense.


I don't think Mack Wilson will be on the team.


Definitely going to be a hard sale on his part with his...err..3 special teams snaps last year.

Why is a depth LBer not pounding on the coaches' doors trying to get on the special teams unit?


And Takitaki is one of our main special teamers.

Just a quick look at our linebackers:

JOK
Walker
Smith
Takitaki
Phillips

All of the above would seem to be ahead of Mack Wilson.

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That was some amazing film. JOK might help us get off the field AND help with turnovers.. Get your popcorn!

I was impressed with MG last night at the podium. Anybody else? He has to be close to being his own zip code . . . .


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It would not shock me if Wilson is cut


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I was very happy to see DePodesta come out and say that JOK is a LB and will play LB. I think the notion of a S/LB "tweener" is very flawed. I don't think those guys really exist...and I certainly think that if one DOES exist, you won't know that until they've been in the league for (at lest) a bit.

It's hard enough to project a guy from college to the NFL...let alone project how a college player will "re-invent" a position in the NFL.

I'd like to see him gain 10-15 lbs and the team commit to him as a LB and not some dreamed-up tweener.

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It would not shock me if Wilson is cut


I think I would be a little shocked.


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I was very happy to see DePodesta come out and say that JOK is a LB and will play LB. I think the notion of a S/LB "tweener" is very flawed.


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I'd like to see him gain 10-15 lbs and the team commit to him as a LB and not some dreamed-up tweener.


As you pointed out in the first quote above, the team already has committed to him being a LB'er and not a tweener.

From reading some of the responses in this thread some people didn't seem to get the message. Sometimes people become so ingrained in what they feel and believe they won't even accept the facts when they come straight from the horses mouth. There's really not much we can do about that.


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It would not shock me if Wilson is cut


I think I would be a little shocked.


Why? He lost his job last year, and asked to be on special teams, and missed a tackle right out of the gate.


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