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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Cheney is more conservative than Trump ever was.

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She's even far more conservative than her replacement, Elise Stefanik. But then when actual conservative values take the back seat for the cult of Trump you'll have that.

You'll see dumb things like the more conservative of the two being called a RINO.


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RINO is a term now used for anyone who does not support Trump unequivocally and isn't prepared to sell their soul to wannabe King Trump. I'd say you could even argue someone who is a moderate conservative - like Romney - is more of a true Republican than Trump. Trump is merely a predatory, opportunistic politician, without principals or deep conservative beliefs. His belief of the day is dictated by what he thinks will garner him more "loyal" support.

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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Cheney is more conservative than Trump ever was. She has never been anything close to a RINO. Her only crime in the situation was telling the truth. I can understand how telling the truth offends so many of you.

You seem to think every Republican is some crazy Trumpster. You're wrong and yes, it is driving down support for your party.


whats funny is that Cheney also voted for trump's policies 95% of the time.

the congresswoman they replaced her with, Stefanik, is far more moderate and only voted with trump 60%, yet because she parrots trump's insane rhetoric, she's viewed as a real republican?

the Twilight Zone couldn't come up with a more bizarre scenario than what we're witnessing on the right.



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It's amazing how the truth is treated like the plague in the Republican party right now. A host of Republican politicians across the country have been censured and demoted from their current positions of leadership because they won't promote Trump's lies.

What they have turned into is a shadow of the things they used to actually claim to stand for.They aren't even fooling all of the people that voted for trump in 2020 anymore. After Jan. 6th and their attempted legal coverup even more of those who voted for Trump in 2020 have said enough is enough.

It's hard to imagine how they think they can now win anything after losing both the White House and the senate by following a cult of Trump before Jan. 6th.


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More people have voted for Trump than any President in US history...even more than King Obama. Her open disdain for Trump goes very-much against the GOP.

Cheney is a swamp dwelling RINO and does not represent the GOP...hence she is no longer in a position of leadership. The voters in her district will decide if she continues to represent them.

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Yet you dispute every fact that was presented. Calling someone a RINO means Republican in name only. Yet Cheney is more conservative than her replacement and voted with Trump more often than her replacement. You aren't fooling anyone. The only thing she wouldn't do is lie for Trump.

And BTW- More people voted for Biden than Trump and Biden is a president. wink


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Originally Posted By: WSU Willie
More people have voted for Trump than any President in US history...even more than King Obama. Her open disdain for Trump goes very-much against the GOP.

Cheney is a swamp dwelling RINO and does not represent the GOP...hence she is no longer in a position of leadership. The voters in her district will decide if she continues to represent them.


No that's not accurate.

It might have been accurate at the time of the 2016 election? IDK - but Biden had more votes than any POTUS in the history of US elections, so if that was true for Trump in 2016, Biden smashed that record. Trump also lost the popular vote twice - a unique accomplishment. So if more people voted for Trump 2016 than any other POTUS at that time ... likewise more people voted against him in that same election.

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It couldn't have possibly have been true in 2016 since Hillary won the popular vote in that election.

In 2016 Trump got about 62 million votes. In 2008 Obama got about 69 and a half million votes.

No, he's talking about 2020 when Trump was actually beaten by over 7 million votes.


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So in total - 2016 and 2020 - more people voted for Trump than any other person in history ? And yet he lost the popular vote twice ? Not sure there is much to be gleaned from that other than he is the most divisive POTUS we've ever seen. He lied more than any other POTUS. He was the most chaotic with the most changes in his staff and administration positions. He is top of the list on many things as POTUS - not many are positive.


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Shhh...........he's not president anymore.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Shhh...........he's not president anymore.


AOC isn't POTUS and never has been - we've had lots of posts about her and she is not even a senior part of the Dem party. Same with Bernie and others. We heard endless rants and fabrications about Hilary before and after her run....

Trump is still the driving force, direction, leader of the GOP. He's relevant. Talking about him and responding to others posts about him is what you would expect on a political forum - No?


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Shhh...........he's not president anymore.


No! Shout that from the rooftops!!

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Your infatuation with Trump is fascinating.

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Your infatuation with Trump is fascinating.
Gosh...you make me feel like...a Republican!

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Your infatuation with Trump is fascinating.


Your trolling is fascinating. Which is why I explained it fully.


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Originally Posted By: WSU Willie
More people have voted for Trump than any President in US history...even more than King Obama. Her open disdain for Trump goes very-much against the GOP.

Cheney is a swamp dwelling RINO and does not represent the GOP...hence she is no longer in a position of leadership. The voters in her district will decide if she continues to represent them.


That snippet and two dollars gets you a cup of coffee... Let's dissect the statement, Population growth happens, and no president since Franklin Roosevelt and Nixon has run more than twice.

Dude lost the popular vote by 7 million... and the electoral college 306-232... a landslide victory as Trump called his 306-232 win...


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Originally Posted By: mgh888
RINO is a term now used for anyone who does not support Trump unequivocally and isn't prepared to sell their soul to wannabe King Trump. I'd say you could even argue someone who is a moderate conservative - like Romney - is more of a true Republican than Trump. Trump is merely a predatory, opportunistic politician, without principals or deep conservative beliefs. His belief of the day is dictated by what he thinks will garner him more "loyal" support.


They should refine that to say ARINO (Alt-Right In Name Only).

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Yeah, when you have nothing, resort to the 'trolling' thing.

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Originally Posted By: WSU Willie
Ousting a RINO from a leadership position in the GOP is the exact opposite of furthering (the notion of) a split.


Wait, did you just say that Liz Chaney is a RINO?

Yikes,, Her and her Father are the LEAST RINO of them all..

What they aren't are Trumpian Lackeys. They don't follow trump blindly by believing anything that comes out of his mouth..

She talks about the Big Lie... Nobody has proven it isn't.. In fact the opposite is true..

I'd say that those that don't have the balls to stand up to him are the real problem in the republican party.

They are the ones that are in danger of wrecking America.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Yeah, when you have nothing, resort to the 'trolling' thing.


They were responding to someone on your side of the debate that brought up trump. Context isn't your thing is it?


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RINO is a term now used for anyone who does not support Trump unequivocally and isn't prepared to sell their soul to wannabe King Trump. I'd say you could even argue someone who is a moderate conservative - like Romney - is more of a true Republican than Trump. Trump is merely a predatory, opportunistic politician, without principals or deep conservative beliefs. His belief of the day is dictated by what he thinks will garner him more "loyal" support.


They should refine that to say ARINO (Alt-Right In Name Only).


If the truth were told, I think you'd find that the RINO is really what you are thinking I believe.

True republicans are really very much Law and Order. They believe in following the constitution. They believe in Accountability..

That is partly what makes up a TRUE Republican.

But these Trumpians, these white supremecists, the KKK, Proud Boys, etc..

They are the True Republicans in Name Only! Nixon, Reagan, Eisenhouer, None of them would recognize these people today. And more so, they would not accept them.

No way would they ever accept Trump.


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Non-Trump republicans accept Trump in much the same way Dr. Frankenstein accepted the monster that he himself created.

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Originally Posted By: Damanshot

True republicans are really very much Law and Order. They believe in following the constitution. They believe in Accountability..


I think you need to substitute the word "Conservatives" for 'Republicans" - because the the GOP has been taken over by Cult of Trump. If you put the word 'Conservatives' into your post, I agree 100%.


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The "real story"? rofl


Israel is ORCHESTRATING the most violent attacks it has seen in years after a slew of mid-east peace agreements were reached in the last couple years.
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I needed to correct this statement quick.

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Originally Posted By: fishtheice

Goodbye Liz Cheney, welcome Elise Stefanik. Elise knows the real story of the destruction of this country!



Only the GQP cares. Liberals don’t like Cheney either. Good riddance.


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Originally Posted By: WSU Willie
More people have voted for Trump than any President in US history...even more than King Obama. Her open disdain for Trump goes very-much against the GOP.

Cheney is a swamp dwelling RINO and does not represent the GOP...hence she is no longer in a position of leadership. The voters in her district will decide if she continues to represent them.


Trump is NOT the flipping GOP! Good grief! I guess he is becoming it, though.

You even say King Obama when the GOP right now is literally censuring and ousting people who are calling out Trump for his role in January 6, JUST LIKE MCCARTHY DID PREVIOUSLY! Yet Obama is the "king." Please...

Disdainment for a person such as Trump speaks nothing to party, or policy or anything that politics should be about. Like many have said, her voting record speaks to her politics. How people don't see that, I will never understand.

The indoctrination is strong...


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Originally Posted By: Damanshot

True republicans are really very much Law and Order. They believe in following the constitution. They believe in Accountability..


I think you need to substitute the word "Conservatives" for 'Republicans" - because the the GOP has been taken over by Cult of Trump. If you put the word 'Conservatives' into your post, I agree 100%.


Nope.. True republicans are very much conservatives... Trumpians are not true republicans..


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I actually agree with what he's saying, because I more or less resemble it.

DC and I were having a discussion on here a few months back. I think "Republican" and conservative - in its original form - have drifted further and further apart over the years. I think Reagan was the "shoving off" point. I think Trump is the capstone of the drift.

To me, I don't consider libertarians to be conservative, but I think they are actually closer now to the foundation of conservativism than Republicans.


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Maybe to keep on track with the real story, what about VP Harris breaking her pledge to reveal all assets? The story is out there. If I am not mistaken, I thought the President said anyone who didn't wouldn't be a part of the administration.

No doubt any source I link will be a bogus site by the gang around here, so you can look it up if you are interested in the real story.


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What pledge to "reveal all assets"? The only pledge I know of was the pledge they would reveal their tax returns. Which she did. Trump refused to. I never heard you comment about that.

The only thing you need to do is show a quote by Biden saying "reveal all assets" instead of "disclose their tax returns". Because the comment he made was concerning Trump refusing to reveal his tax returns to the American people like every president has done for the past 50 years.


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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-financial-disclosure-assets-trust-ethics-pledge

This story is on the right wing MSM sites.

I wonder if I go look whether those same sites had the same coverage and "journalism" over Trump's reversal of disclosing his tax returns.

I hope Kamala is in accordance with legal requirements, unlike Trump and how he didn't put his assets into a blind trust and instead profited from his term personally - I would like to hold Biden and Harris to a higher standard for sure.


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What pledge to "reveal all assets"? The only pledge I know of was the pledge they would reveal their tax returns. Which she did. Trump refused to. I never heard you comment about that.

The only thing you need to do is show a quote by Biden saying "reveal all assets" instead of "disclose their tax returns". Because the comment he made was concerning Trump refusing to reveal his tax returns to the American people like every president has done for the past 50 years.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15019385/k...-assets-hidden/


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So at the beginning of the article it states plainly that she put what is in question in a "family trust". Which means she no longer holds control over it. Then it goes on to write about how something she is no longer in control of should be "her assets"?

You do realize that's exactly what Trump did too don't you? Put the Trump Organization in a "family trust" which absolved him from holding any ownership while in office?


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He didn't make it a campaign pledge. The Biden ticket didn't like it and pledged they wouldn't.

So now you are all for it....okie dokie


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No I'm not. just pointing out the hypocrisy. No problem for you when Trump did it. Big problem when the other side does it.


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Maybe to keep on track with the real story, what about VP Harris breaking her pledge to reveal all assets? The story is out there. If I am not mistaken, I thought the President said anyone who didn't wouldn't be a part of the administration.

No doubt any source I link will be a bogus site by the gang around here, so you can look it up if you are interested in the real story.


I think I answered this before, but if that's what she said and what the campaign said, then yes, they need to be held accountable for it.


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Yeah that’s totally impeachable. Lol. Trump literally helped kill off hundreds of thousands of US citizens and you GQP’ers didn’t; even bat an eye.


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Yeah that’s totally impeachable. Lol. Trump literally helped kill off hundreds of thousands of US citizens and you GQP’ers didn’t; even bat an eye.


Many he encouraged into dangerous behaviors. Risking their lives in a pandemic to have them gather together, without masks, to heap adulation upon him at his ego boost rallies. He put them at risk and they gobbled it up and still hold a shrine for his golden calf self.
I’ll never understand.


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Maybe to keep on track with the real story, what about VP Harris breaking her pledge to reveal all assets? The story is out there. If I am not mistaken, I thought the President said anyone who didn't wouldn't be a part of the administration.

No doubt any source I link will be a bogus site by the gang around here, so you can look it up if you are interested in the real story.


https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/19/presiden...we-learned.html

When you only look at what Right leaning outlets say, you don't get the whole story.

Of all people, you should know that.


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