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Dude you are in denial - or trolling. The GOP are in Trump's thrall. Just ask the RINO Liz Cheney. Cheney is more Conservative and more Republican than a thousand Trumps ... but she is being ostracized by THE PARTY because she doesn't lick Trump's boots. That's fact and reality.

You are funny !! Misguided and ignorant as hell but funny.

I'll give you that you have a list of current issues that need to be addressed and handled by the current administration - other than the Hunter comment.... But your confused by calling them "scandals" - your confused with not reading wild tweets at all hours, with not addressing. But carry on.

Just one comment on one topic - inflation. We are in a worldwide Pandemic. I know it's just like flu to you - but the rest of the world disagrees. We've had a year of low demand, low production for everything and anything from ram materials to finished goods. India and many other countries are now suffering more thru COVID than at any other time ... while demand is ramping up here for literally everything - supply has been crushed and is not able to respond. THAT is driving inflation NOT Biden and what Biden tweets or doesn't tweet. But you rock on - call it a scandal and claim Biden doesn't address it or even know about it.

You deny it, tell me why

They watch their party oust one of the most conservative members of their own party from power because she criticized Trump ans now claim he holds no power. I don't know if they're blind, in denial or just flat out lying.

But it's got to be one of the three.

I think that analogy actually bolsters his point.

I think it’s fairly obvious that Trump maintains significant sway over the GOP. I do think that Democrats also keep focusing their ire at him to ignore their own issues and maintain feeble intra-liberal alliances.

However, McCarthy doing an about-face, Graham’s comments, Cruz’s photo shoots, all the meetings at Mar-a-Lago, the campaigning, Liz Chaney, the censuring, and on and on demonstrate the collective evidence of undue influence.

lol

I'm not even sure if they keep up with what's going on. If they did they would see that the evidence is overwhelming. You pointed to a lot of the evidence most of us see.

Here is what the Republicans have become:

https://gab.com/DesireeSKeller/posts/106346584812903539

Dear God!

Laurie Roth

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Roth

Lol of course:

In January 2012, Roth was named as a plaintiff in a lawsuit against President Barack Obama in Georgia,[15] and was represented by birther movement activist Orly Taitz.[16] Roth and her fellow plaintiffs challenged President Obama's eligibility to run for president of the United States. On February 3, 2012, Judge Michael Malihi ruled in favor of President Obama.[16] Roth and her fellow plaintiffs appealed Judge Malihi's ruling; their appeal was denied on March 2, 2012.[17]

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Right around the same time Trump was parroting nonsense on Twitter about the same topic.

Do these ghouls have no soul, or are they clinically insane? It’s one or the other.

Not mutually exclusive

When they do it, they think it's standing up for all americans. But if a liberal does it, it's cancel culture.

How is trump just like hitler?

Like I said, I'm ashamed of you.. You didn't take one second to look for yourself...

SO,, here

https://tdkehoe.medium.com/thirteen-similarities-between-donald-trump-and-adolf-hitler-3a97a8055dde

Or

https://www.statesman.com/story/special/...book/113764796/

You won't agree.. You'll tell me how bad the sources are.. You won't take a second to verify anything.. It's not what you want to hear....

Proof means nothing. He asked for it and you gave it to him.

BWS - Brick Wall Syndrome

I laughed out loud at this. Trump is in your brain. I'm sorry for you, that you can't move on. Hey, we have a new president.

And yet Republicans all over the country have been censured and had their roles reduced any time they say anything negative or disagree with anything Trump says.

Read more and pay attention.

It seems as though those who hold power in the party you support has Trump in their brain. Even though you have made zero comments about that.

Maggie Haberman Is Right

Donald Trump really does believe that he, along with two former GOP senators, will be ‘reinstated’ to office this summer.

Two days ago, the New York Times’s Maggie Haberman reported that Donald Trump “has been telling a number of people he’s in contact with that he expects he will get reinstated by August.” In response, many figures on the right inserted their fingers into their ears and started screaming about fake news.

Instead, they should have listened — because Haberman’s reporting was correct. I can attest, from speaking to an array of different sources, that Donald Trump does indeed believe quite genuinely that he — along with former senators David Perdue and Martha McSally — will be “reinstated” to office this summer after “audits” of the 2020 elections in Arizona, Georgia, and a handful of other states have been completed. I can attest, too, that Trump is trying hard to recruit journalists, politicians, and other influential figures to promulgate this belief — not as a fundraising tool or an infantile bit of trolling or a trial balloon, but as a fact.

It will be tempting for weary conservatives to dismiss this information as “old news” or as “an irrelevance.” It will be tempting, too, to downplay the enormity of what is being claimed, or to change the subject, or to attack the messengers by implying that they must “hate” Trump and his voters. But such temptations should be assiduously avoided. We are not talking here about a fringe figure within the Republican tent, but about a man who hopes to make support for his outlandish claims “a litmus test of sorts as he decides whom to endorse for state and federal contests in 2022 and 2024.” Conservatives understand why it mattered that the press lost its collective mind over Russia after Trump’s fair-and-square victory in 2016. They understand why it mattered that Hillary Clinton publicly described Trump as an “illegitimate president” who had “stolen” the election. And they understand why it mattered that Jimmy Carter insisted that Trump had “lost the election” and been “put into office because the Russians interfered.” They should understand why this matters, too.

The scale of Trump’s delusion is quite startling. This is not merely an eccentric interpretation of the facts or an interesting foible, nor is it an irrelevant example of anguished post-presidency chatter. It is a rejection of reality, a rejection of law, and, ultimately, a rejection of the entire system of American government. There is no Reinstatement Clause within the United States Constitution. Hell, there is nothing even approximating a Reinstatement Clause within the United States Constitution. The election has been certified, Joe Biden is the president, and, until 2024, that is all there is to it. It does not matter what one’s view of Trump is. It does not matter whether one voted for or against Trump. It does not matter whether one views Trump’s role within the Republican Party favorably or unfavorably. We are talking here about cold, hard, neutral facts that obtain irrespective of one’s preferences; it is not too much to ask that the former head of the executive branch should understand them.

Just how far out there is Trump’s theory? Consider that, even if it were true that the 2020 election had been stolen — which it is absolutely not — his belief would still be absurd. It could be confirmed tomorrow that agents working for a combination of al-Qaeda, Venezuela, and George Soros had hacked into every single voting machine in the country and altered the totals by tens of millions, and it would remain the case there is no mechanism within the American legal order for a do-over of any sort. In such an eventuality, there would be indictments, an impeachment drive, and a constitutional crisis. But, however bad it got, Donald Trump would not be “reinstated” to the presidency. That is not how America works, how America has ever worked, or how America can ever work. American politicians do not lose their reelection races only to be reinstalled later on, as might the second-place horse in a race whose winner was disqualified. The idea is otherworldly and obscene.

There is nothing to be gained for conservatism by pretending otherwise. To acknowledge that Trump is living in a fantasy world does not wipe out his achievements or render anything else he has said incorrect. It does not endorse Joe Biden or hand the Republican Party over to Bill Kristol or knock down an inch of the wall on the border. It merely demands that Donald Trump be treated like any other person: subject to gravity, open to rebuttal, and liable to be laughed at when he becomes so unmoored from the real world that it is hard to know where to begin in attempting to explain him.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/06/maggie-haberman-is-right/

**NOTICE THE LINK**
This is the national review, a very GOPer rag, calling Trump what he currently is, which is nuts.

"Trump Man" Busted For Serial Pooping Spree

Cops: Ohioan, 70, targeted home because residents are Democrats



http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/trump-man-nabbed

In other news, one Trumpster from Florida peed his pants yesterday.

Pffft... Republicans.

j/c

North Carolina county bans Coca-Cola machines after company opposes Georgia voting law

County officials in North Carolina have approved a ban on Coca-Cola machines from its government buildings in protest of the Georgia-based company's recent opposition to that state's new voting law.

In a letter to Coca-Cola CEO James Quincy, Surry County Commissioner Eddie Harris said Coca-Cola's position is "wrong on so many levels."

Harris, who sent a copy of the letter to CBS News, wrote: "Due to your company's support of the out-of-control cancel culture and bigoted leftist mob, the Surry Board of County Commissioners voted at their May 17, 2021 meeting to remove all Coca Cola machines from Surry County Government facilities."

The controversial Georgia law was passed earlier this year in the wake of a nationwide debate over false claims that the 2020 election was not fair. While many, including former President Donald Trump, perpetuated these erroneous claims, the Justice Department found no evidence of election fraud.

The Georgia law has been criticized for putting new restrictions on voting, which will disproportional impact voters of color, according to Democrats and voting rights advocates. The law now requires voters to have a photo ID in order to vote absentee by mail and it also cuts the time people have to request an absentee ballot, among other things.

Several Georgia-based companies spoke out against the bill in March, including Coca-Cola and Delta Air Lines. Other corporations soon followed, including JPMorgan Chase, Citi and Microsoft. Initially, many called for boycotts of companies that did not speak out against the law.

In his letter, Harris criticized Coca-Cola for attacking "a photo ID requirement as racist."

"Why sir, do you require a photo ID to enter one of your shareholder meetings," Harris said.

He also criticized Coca-Cola for not speaking out against other issues, such as "the placement of China's ethnic Uighurs and Turkic Muslim minorities in concentration camps."

"Where is your outrage of this persecution in a Communist country in which Coca Cola is heavily invested?" Harris wrote.

Harris said the Surry Board of County Commissioners felt removing Coca-Cola machines "was the best way to take a stand and express our disappointment in Coca-Cola's actions, which are not representative of most views of our citizens."

CBS News reached out to Coca-Cola for comment and is awaiting response.

In April, a group of eight Republican state Representatives in Georgia signed a letter saying they wanted Coca-Cola products removed from their office suite, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, which obtained a copy of the letter.

Former President Trump also urged people to boycott entities that opposed Georgia's voting law, including Major League Baseball, which removed its All-Star game from the state to make a statement against the legislation.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coca-cola-b...inkId=120498889

#cancelculture

This is an actual display of the very real TDS that resides within the delusional, borderline sociopathic bunch that still supports donny.

What real TDS looks like....

Anti-Trump Republicans are facing punishment back home. But don't call it a civil war.

“The only division is between a handful of Washington, D.C., establishment political hacks and everybody else all over the country," Trump said Sunday.

When former President Donald Trump spoke at the Conservative Political Action Conference on Sunday, he singled out for retribution each of the 17 Republicans in Congress who voted to either impeach or convict him for his conduct leading up to the deadly Capitol riot on Jan. 6.

Trump's taking aim at fellow Republicans is nothing new. In fact, it was a defining feature of his outsider bid for the GOP nomination in 2016. But now, Trump is the party’s ultimate insider — especially after having reshaped the grassroots GOP apparatus, at a local and state level, in his image.

With Trump seeking to remain the most influential voice in GOP politics heading into next year's midterms, potentially launching another presidential bid in 2024, it’s those state and local leaders who are working to help maintain his standing in the party by taking aim at detractors and anyone seeking to shift the GOP in a different direction.

Story continues.....

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-...-don-t-n1256292

GOP senators who voted to convict Trump are now facing backlash in their home states

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/14/gop-senators-who-voted-to-impeach-trump-facing-heat-at-home.html

Whose ‘Big Lie’? Trump’s proclamation a new GOP litmus test

WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump and his supporters are intensifying efforts to shame — and potentially remove — members of their party who are seen as disloyal to the former president and his false claims that last year’s election was stolen from him.

On Capitol Hill, Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming, the No. 3 Republican in the House, risks losing her leadership post amid her increasingly public dispute with Trump. In Utah, Sen. Mitt Romney, a rare Trump foe in the GOP, faced the indignity over the weekend of reminding a booing crowd that he was once their presidential standard-bearer. And in Texas, the only openly anti-Trump Republican in a crowded special election for a congressional seat finished a lowly 9th.

Trump left office nearly four months ago with his reputation badly damaged after a mob of his supporters waged a deadly riot at the U.S. Capitol to prevent the certification of election results. But the recent developments suggest a revival of his political fortunes in which those who refuse to go along with his falsehoods find themselves on the defensive.
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“It’s scary,” said Michael Wood, the Texas Republican congressional candidate who based his campaign on a vow to push the GOP past the “cult of personality” that is Trump. In the end, he garnered just 3% of the vote in Saturday’s special election, while two Trump supporters, including one he endorsed, will advance to a runoff.

Trump’s grip on the party may only tighten in coming days.

Adding to his flurries of press releases, his powerful Facebook account could be reinstated this week if a quasi-independent oversight board rules in his favor. Meanwhile, Republicans in Virginia will decide whether to nominate a vocal Trump supporter for governor in one of the few marquee elections on the calendar this year.

An important signal of the party’s direction may come on Capitol Hill, where Cheney’s future is in question.

The Wyoming congresswoman, the most senior Republican to call for Trump’s impeachment, has insisted that the party must reject the former president’s lie that the election was somehow stolen. There is no evidence to support Trump’s allegations of mass voter fraud, and numerous audits, Republican state election officials and Trump’s own attorney general have said the election was fair.

But Trump has stuck to his story and issued a “proclamation” Monday attempting to co-opt the language his foes use to brand his falsehoods.

“The Fraudulent Presidential Election of 2020 will be, from this day forth, known as THE BIG LIE!” he wrote.

Cheney, who has not ruled out a 2024 run herself, fired back.

“The 2020 presidential election was not stolen. Anyone who claims it was is spreading THE BIG LIE, turning their back on the rule of law, and poisoning our democratic system,” she tweeted.

Clearly she has no intention of scaling back her criticism, even as she faces the possibility of losing her leadership post.

Cheney survived an earlier attempt to oust her from leadership, but it could be different this time. GOP leader Kevin McCarthy stood by her earlier this year, but he has declined to defend her from the latest round of attacks as he faces conservatives restive for her removal. That’s a sign of McCarthy’s own calculations as he works to stay close to Trump while also trying to extend a wider tent to help his party win general elections.

McCarthy said Tuesday on Fox News Channel that Republican lawmakers have expressed their concerns to him about Cheney’s ability to do her job as chair of the GOP conference and carry out the message of opposition to Biden to help win back House control.

“We all need to be working as one if we’re able to win the majority,” he said. “Remember, majorities are not given. They are earned.”

While the pro-Trump Republican voices on Capitol Hill far outweigh his party critics, the detractors should not be dismissed.

In all, 10 House Republicans voted to impeach Trump for inspiring the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, and seven Senate Republicans voted to convict. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell voted to acquit Trump, but publicly chastised the former president and has privately encouraged the party to move on.

It’s a different calculation for rank-and-file members of Congress, particularly those representing heavily Republican areas, where roughly 8 in 10 party supporters typically approve of Trump. Among party activists and base voters, that number is thought to be much higher.

It’s still too early to draw any definite conclusions about Trump’s success so far this year. Some Republican strategists privately suggest there are real signs that the former president’s strength with rank-and-file voters and elected officials has begun to wane.

“He becomes less relevant with every passing day, but among those who still listen to him he’s more relevant than ever,” said veteran Republican pollster Frank Luntz. “He still matters. He’s going to matter for months and even years, but as time goes on he’ll matter less and less.”

For now, the former reality TV celebrity seems to be enjoying the ride.

“So nice to see RINO Mitt Romney booed off the stage at the Utah Republican State Convention,” Trump crowed in a series of celebratory statements Monday lauding the Texas results and criticism of Cheney and Romney. “RINO” means “Republican in Name Only.”

In Utah over the weekend, a roomful of Republicans had rained boos down on Romney before trying unsuccessfully to censure him for backing Trump’s impeachment.

“Show respect,” the crowd was reprimanded by the state party chair. Romney reminded them that he was a lifetime conservative and their presidential nominee in 2012 — and told them Republicans would only hurt themselves by attacking each other.

“If we divide our party, we’re going to be a losing party,” he said.

In Texas, losing congressional candidate Wood, a 34-year-old former Marine and two-time Purple Heart recipient, has commiserated with a handful of prominent anti-Trump Republicans, including Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., former Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake, former Ohio Gov. John Kasich and Cheney, who had donated to Wood’s campaign and offered moral support.

He said Monday there’s real urgency for anti-Trump Republicans to unify against him.

“This can’t be just individuals pushing back. We’ve got to organize and show the public you can be a good Republican and not buy into all that BS,” Wood said. “This fight won’t be won with podcasts and op-eds.”

Mike DuHaime, a top Republican strategist, said the party is still grappling with its identity post-Trump, but argued that it will be better positioned going forward if it includes conservatives like Cheney and Romney.

“There are people who are playing to the base of the electorate, which is very passionate and believes the big lie about the election. And it’s enough to win a primary for Congress or Senate or governor, or even president, it seems.” But, he warned, “If we stay focused on only that, it’s not going to be successful enough in the general election to win back the majority.”

https://apnews.com/article/campaign-2016...dc0ae1f3d30d4dc

They know their party is carrying on with Trump's big lie. They know he's still the leader of the Republican party. They know he is still the one their party is catering to.

Trump planning rallies in Ohio and Florida this summer

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/21/politics/trump-rallies-summer/index.html

He will be back on the road this summer peddling his hate and lies. Yet they think by claiming its us who has a Trump problem will change anything. Only they can change what the Republican party has become. And as we can see, they don't give a damn.

Isn't it really funny how Liberals are accused of being the cancel culture but man, do something that reflects on what Republicans want, and BAM, look who cancels everything.

Double standards..

Trump has called for more boycotts of companies that spoke out in disagreement with him or did simething he didn't like than any other president I can recall. From Harley to Coke and everything in between.

This is just companies that disagreed with the Georgia election law alone.

Trump calls for boycott of more companies over Georgia voting law

Driving the news: Trump on Friday urged a boycott of "woke companies" that have taken a stand and Major League Baseball for moving its All-Star Game out of Georgia, adding: "Are you listening Coke, Delta." In his new statement, he said: "Boycott Major League Baseball, Coca-Cola, Delta Airlines, JPMorgan Chase, ViacomCBS, Citigroup, Cisco, UPS, and Merck."

https://www.axios.com/trump-calls-for-bo...ed4f4a0712.html

That doesn't even include all the companies he called for his supporters to boycott over the rest of his term in office.

Then of course there was when he and Evanka became the spokespersons for Goya Beans.



And then his supporters whine about cancel culture.

JPMorgan Halts Donations to Republicans Who Objected to 2020 Election Certification


Joshua Caplan

4 Jun 2021


JPMorgan Chase & Co says it will restart making political contributions to lawmakers except to congressional Republicans who objected to the certification of President Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 election, reads a memo obtained by Reuters.

Reuters reports:

Following a review, the country’s largest lender will this month resume giving through its Political Action Committee (PAC) but will continue its freeze on donations to a “handful” of the 147 lawmakers whom it had previously supported, the bank said. The pause will last through the 2021-2022 election cycle, which includes November’s midterm elections, after which JPMorgan will review whether to resume contributions to the lawmakers concerned on an individual basis, it said.

“This was a unique and historic moment when we believe the country needed our elected officials to put aside strongly held differences and demonstrate unity,” the memo said. “Democracy, by its nature, requires active participation, compromise, and engaging with people with opposing views. That is why government and business must work together.”

Records from the Center for Responsive Politics show that JP Morgan’s PAC donated approximately to federal candidates and organizations supporting candidates between 2019 and 2020, including $10,000 House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) and Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-NY).

Either Republican lawmaker has responded to the Reuters report.

JP Morgan Chase isn’t the only corporation to freeze donations to Republicans. The financial giant was joined by American Airlines, Boston Scientific,Blue Cross Blue Shield BP, Coca Cola, Facebook, Goldman Sachs, Hallmark, Hilton Hotels, Kroger, Marriott International Microsoft and Visa.

Some Republican lawmakers, namely Sen. Josh Hawley, have seen their grassroots fundraising numbers surge in the wake of Corporate America’s decision to halt donations. Hawley raked in over $3 million during the first three months of 2021, according to Politico.

Hawley has repeatedly explained that he never sought to overturn’s the 2020 election, but rather wanted a robust investigation into allegations of voter fraud.

“I never said that the goal was to overturn the election,” the senator previously stated. “That was never the point and it was never possible. What we need to have are elections that are fair, free and open, and I think Congress needs to do its job and look into election irregularities.”


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/...-certification/

You guys complain about socialism, but it looks like capitalism is what's really messing with conservatives.

What's your point. Are you saying that JP Morgan should fund insurrectionists?

I just love how Trumpians are boycotting Coke...LOL

He doesn't have a point. There is no equivalency between the cancel culture of the GOP and people or organizations choosing not to donate voluntary financial donations. The equivalent would be for those firms to actively tell everyone and to actively campaign for everyone else not to contribute and not to vote for those candidates ... but in the absence of a real point we get another weak ass article without any input from the poster.

It seems they've forgotten that corporations are people too.

I will never, not in a million years, accept corportions as people... NEVER...

Nobody has to agree with SCOTUS rulings to recognize they exist. My point is the very same people who applauded that decision are now seeing it bite them in the azz.

It reminds me of the old saying. "Be careful what you wish for".

Trump has already told people that if he is healthy in '24, he is running again.

And after an interview yesterday with Wayne Allen Root, he actually may be thinking of running in '22. The interviewer asked him yesterday why doesn't trump run in '22 for a house seat in Florida, go for the speaker role (if they get the majority) and impeach Biden for "illegitimate activities of stealing the election" and then run for president in 24. And this has already been brought up by Steve Bannon a couple months ago.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-suggests-he-may-run-house-2022-become-speaker-very-interesting-159782

I can completely agree with that.

I guess I view things differently. I don't see it as biting anybody in the ass. That comment is proof that some people view the law along political lines. I don't. Never have and never will.

I am just glad to see the court rendering decisions where the court isn't divided along political lines.

That is going to happen sometimes, but it shouldn't happen all the time.

Some people think the Constitution is a living document, and it is to a degree, but not as living as some people want to think.

I would be classed as a textualist. No doubt some leeway is necessary, but all in all I don't agree with a Justice who always tries to interpret what the framers though v what the framers wrote.

Not some leeway, lots of leeway.. No way could the framers ever have had the belief we'd have the types of guns we have available today.. no way could they have conceived of such weapons.

But they did indeed think of those that would commit acts of insurrection... They planned for it and today, their plan is being trampled upon..

Ah, but the same people who applauded the "corporations are people" decisions are the same people who supported a president who called repeatedly to "boycott those people" every time they disagreed with him or any of his political stances.

Do you support boycotting any "people" for disagreeing with your political stance? Would you tell "people" to keep sending you their money to support your political goals but shut up about their political beliefs?

McConnell Tells Businesses To ‘Stay Out Of Politics’ – Except With Campaign Donations

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolen...sh=30882c175254

My point, and it can't be denied logically, is that the political parties and their supporters support certain SCOTUS rulings until it bites them in the azz. It really has nothing to do with the rulings themselves. Just can't help but laugh when people couldn't understand that it was a two edged sword and now they're trying to punish those "people" and claim the other side promotes cancel culture.

But then Trump always does tend to accuse others of the exact thing he himself is guilty of. And his supporters buy it hook, line and sinker.