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Can you list some things for me that biden is getting a free pass on?



Illegal immigration and his lack of a stance on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict?


It's might be a start. But you list issues. You don't debate what Biden did or didn't do compared to what you think he should have done.

I'd go into commenting on both issues but will wait for some substance.


Lol. Keep waiting. l didn't ask for your comments.


rofl Opps - you made a comment on a public forum and expected to skate away without getting public feedback. Got it rofl Sounds about what I expect.


So, rolling around like an idiot is witholding your comments? Sounds about what I expect. blush


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Speaking of this administration, good to know our allies actually want to work with us again. I like the things discussed and planned for NATO and overall partnerships. Also, anybody see the US and EU settle that plane tariff dispute after 17 years? Dope stuff.


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For four years we saw a president attacking and saying nasty things about our allies while saying he and Kim Jong-un were in love. We saw him take the word of Putin over our entire intelligence community in a public press conference with Putin. Sucking up to dictators and attacking the leaders of our allies.

We saw him attack every business and politician who questioned his policies. Basically we watched a petulant child in The White House for four years. And we have witnessed nothing but a tantrum because he lost ever since.

Biden certainly wasn't my first choice for president but he is certainly a drastic improvement.


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Biden Administration Asks Americans to Report ‘Potentially’ Radicalized Friends and Family


Charlie Spiering

15 Jun 2021

President Joe Biden’s administration announced their plans to create ways for Americans to report radicalized friends and family to the government, in an effort to fight domestic terrorism.

In a conversation with reporters, one senior administration official explained the importance of stopping politically fueled violence before it started.

“We will work to improve public awareness of federal resources to address concerning or threatening behavior before violence occurs,” the official said.

The official cited the Department of Homeland Security’s “If you see something say something” campaign to help stop radical Islamic terror as a domestic possibility.

“This involves creating contexts in which those who are family members or friends or co-workers know that there are pathways and avenues to raise concerns and seek help for those who they have perceived to be radicalizing and potentially radicalizing towards violence,” the official said.

Biden began his presidency with a stark warning in his inauguration speech about the “rise in political extremism, white supremacy, domestic terrorism that we must confront and we will defeat.” On June 1, Biden described the threat from “white supremacy” as the “most lethal threat to the homeland today.”

The Biden administration said it would also work with large technology companies on “increased information sharing” to help combat radicalization.

“Any particular tech company often knows its own platform very well,” the official noted. “But the government sees things — actually, threats of violence — across platforms. They see the relationship between online recruitment, radicalization, and violence in the physical world.”

The Department of Homeland Security also plans to deploy “digital literacy” and “digital fitness” programs to help combat “malicious content online that bad actors deliberately try to disseminate.”

The official reassured reporters that the administration’s new strategies would remain “laser-focused” on stopping violent acts.

“This is a strategy that is agnostic as to political ideology or off the spectrum,” the official said. “What matters is when individuals take their political or other grievances and turn that — unacceptably, unlawfully — into violent action.”

The official added the Biden administration was taking the threat of domestic terrorism seriously and would redirect the focus of intelligence agencies on internal threats.

“We are investing many agencies of the government and resourcing them appropriately and asking our citizens to participate,” the official said. “Because, ultimately, this is really about homeland security being a responsibility of each citizen of our country to help us achieve.”


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Hell I could easily report a couple dozen people I know without having to think about it. And I know the right sees this as a threat, but instead of acting like your hair's on fire, pause for a moment and ask yourself why? Republicans HAVE been radicalized just like Muslim terrorists. Right wing religion and politics have been twisted into a cult like following of Trump and a violent misinformed mob.

Everyone I know has family members and friends that have been radicalized by Faux News, breitbart, and Trump and company. This reporting would be cringe worthy if the radicalization was not such a problem. But now it truly is time for those re-education camps. I think a few on here should go too.













Of course I don't really want re-education camps, I just like seeing GOPers hair on fire.

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So, rolling around like an idiot is witholding your comments? Sounds about what I expect. blush


Do you have a comprehension issue? I plainly said that posting something on a public message board clearly invites anyone and everyone to comment on it.

My rofl is not me with holding my comments. It was me rofl at the ridiculousness of your post.

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So, rolling around like an idiot is witholding your comments? Sounds about what I expect. blush


Do you have a comprehension issue? I plainly said that posting something on a public message board clearly invites anyone and everyone to comment on it.

My rofl is not me with holding my comments. It was me rofl at the ridiculousness of your post.


The comprehension issue is yours. You initially said you're going to withold your comments (like anybody gives a crap), and I said I didn't ask for them. Keep rolling, it's a good look.


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I'll walk you through it.

Relating specifically on Biden talking points/criticism - I said "I'd go into commenting on both issues but will wait for some substance. "

I never said I would withhold comments on anything you wrote.

The devil is in the details and your comprehension needs work.

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You mean... see something say something...


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Notice how if it's a drug dealer it's "drop a dime on him". But if it's someone planning to overthrow our government all those self proclaimed patriots consider reporting that a terrible thing. Sounds like their patriotic priorities are a little out of whack.


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Keep rolling, it's a good look.


Yeah not a good look I will grant you. It's something I started to mirror other posters when they did it. There were at least a couple that did it regularly but they don't post any more so I should stop.


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It's almost like your saying we shouldn't report someone that we believe is dangerous... Is that what your saying? Someone that threatened someone or something.. Is that what your saying.

Or does it bother you that Biden asked us to turn them in?

Overall, if I see someone I think its dangerous, I'm turning them in...No question


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Doesn't anyone else find it odd that when Trump's hand picked head of Homeland security, chad Wolf claimed........

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White supremacists remain deadliest US terror threat, Homeland Security report says

"As Secretary, I am concerned about any form of violent extremism," wrote acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf. "However, I am particularly concerned about white supremacist violent extremists who have been exceptionally lethal in their abhorrent, targeted attacks in recent years."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/politics/...ment/index.html


......There wasn't a lot pf blowback about it. So it's not really about what gets said, it's about who says it.

And if somebody thinks we should let someone know about it before people die, that's such a terrible thing. What crazy BS will they come up with next?


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During the 2020 campaign, Biden claimed that Trump was “unwilling to take on Putin.”


Pollak: Joe Biden Got Nothing in Geneva Summit with Russia’s Vladimir Putin


Joel B. Pollak

16 Jun 2021


President Joe Biden gave Russian President Vladimir Putin almost everything he could have wanted at their Geneva summit. He elevated Putin above other leaders, including American allies; and failed to force any real concessions on Russian policy.

The degree to which the summit was a disaster became evident when Putin emerged for his press conference — alone with a forum all to himself.

The Biden team did not want to appear with Putin at a joint conference after the meeting– both because Biden would look frail next to Putin, and because of the media dogma that President Donald Trump had somehow done something terrible by behaving cordially when appearing alongside Putin in Helsinki, Finland, in 2018.

Putin fielded softball questions from Russian news agencies, but he also welcomed hostile questions from the U.S. media. (In fact, Putin, an enemy of press freedom, was more polite than Biden would be, and took far tougher questions.)

The opportunity to defend his own position, and to attack the United States, without fear of contradiction was a massive gift to the Russian president. He used the old Soviet tactic of pointing to American problems as a way of deflecting from questions about human rights and political opposition.

He did so without fear of contradiction: when he cited the Black Lives Matter movement as an example of human rights abuses in the U.S., he knew no American journalist would object.

Biden tried to use his own press conference to make all kinds of claims about tough talk to the Russian president during their two-hour meeting. (Biden claimed, falsely, that a meeting of that length was unprecedented between two heads of state: in fact, Trump met with Putin for two hours in 2017.)

It was impossible to verify Biden’s claims without Putin there to respond — and Biden has a history of exaggerating his own bravery when citing conversations with foreign leaders.

Reporters pressed the two leaders, separately, to reveal what commitments, if any, Putin had made to change Russia’s aggressive behavior. But there were none.

Putin walks away from Geneva with no significant response to cyberattacks; with the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which Trump had opposed; and with no real pushback against his aggression in Ukraine. Notably, Biden met with Putin before meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky — meeting TBA.

The response of the American media echoed Biden’s posture of appeasement. CNN, which had raised the alarm when Trump and Putin appeared to get along with one another, gushed about Biden’s “optimistic” tone at the summit, and how wonderful it was that Biden and Putin seemed to have had a friendly conversation.

At one point, the two leaders were so cozy that the White House had to walk back an apparent nod by Biden when he was asked if he trusted Putin.

Biden seemed unwilling to use any leverage against Putin — a fact that even the American media noted, with one journalist desperately asking whether the administration might consider using the U.S. military to stop cyberattacks. Biden’s strategy toward Putin seems to be that he can be convinced to behave more responsibly if he is told that he needs a better global image if he wants to be taken seriously by the media and American investors.

What Biden does not get — and what President Barack Obama did not get, and then-Secretary of State John Kerry did not get — is that Putin does not care. Putin cares about oil, and guns, and currency, and power. He plays by what Kerry once complained — after the Russian invasion of Crimea — are “19th century” rules. Biden does not know how to do the same.

During the 2020 campaign, Biden claimed that Trump was “unwilling to take on Putin.” But Putin leaves Geneva a winner, and Joe Biden got nothing.

https://www.breitbart.com/national-secur...vladimir-putin/

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Well simply by not telling the world he believes Putin above our intelligence agencies and our Allies - it was a vast improvement over Trump.

Out of interest what was the expectation? Go in trying to Bully Putin? Pander to him? Bottom line - like every issue - it does not matter what he does, the spin will always be negative from the "news" media you frequent.

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I wasn't aware that president Biden was a female contestant on Miss Teen 14 years ago:


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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
It's almost like your saying we shouldn't report someone that we believe is dangerous... Is that what your saying? Someone that threatened someone or something.. Is that what your saying.

Or does it bother you that Biden asked us to turn them in?

Overall, if I see someone I think its dangerous, I'm turning them in...No question


If someone is threatening or plotting violence, sure, turn them in. You've labeled everyone on the right as extremists. Do you think all extremists are dangerous? Would you turn in everyone on the right because they are "dangerous" even though most of them committed no crime?


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Doesn't anyone else find it odd that when Trump's hand picked head of Homeland security, chad Wolf claimed........

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White supremacists remain deadliest US terror threat, Homeland Security report says

"As Secretary, I am concerned about any form of violent extremism," wrote acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf. "However, I am particularly concerned about white supremacist violent extremists who have been exceptionally lethal in their abhorrent, targeted attacks in recent years."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/politics/...ment/index.html


......There wasn't a lot pf blowback about it. So it's not really about what gets said, it's about who says it.

And if somebody thinks we should let someone know about it before people die, that's such a terrible thing. What crazy BS will they come up with next?


The prefered party of white supremacists does not want to alienate the base.

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It's almost like your saying we shouldn't report someone that we believe is dangerous... Is that what your saying? Someone that threatened someone or something.. Is that what your saying.

Or does it bother you that Biden asked us to turn them in?

Overall, if I see someone I think its dangerous, I'm turning them in...No question


If someone is threatening or plotting violence, sure, turn them in. You've labeled everyone on the right as extremists. Do you think all extremists are dangerous? Would you turn in everyone on the right because they are "dangerous" even though most of them committed no crime?



Oh stop being silly! If they have not commited a crime or don't seem radically dangerous you don't report them... you just put them on the GOPer extremist list and keep an eye on them.

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- it was a vast improvement over Trump.



Putin has zero respect for this administration.


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Kabir Singh's own mother would turn him in.



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It's almost like your saying we shouldn't report someone that we believe is dangerous... Is that what your saying? Someone that threatened someone or something.. Is that what your saying.

Or does it bother you that Biden asked us to turn them in?

Overall, if I see someone I think its dangerous, I'm turning them in...No question



If someone is threatening or plotting violence, sure, turn them in. You've labeled everyone on the right as extremists. Do you think all extremists are dangerous? Would you turn in everyone on the right because they are "dangerous" even though most of them committed no crime?



Oh stop being silly! If they have not commited a crime or don't seem radically dangerous you don't report them... you just put them on the GOPer extremist list and keep a



I am sure you do.


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Originally Posted By: Squires
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It's almost like your saying we shouldn't report someone that we believe is dangerous... Is that what your saying? Someone that threatened someone or something.. Is that what your saying.

Or does it bother you that Biden asked us to turn them in?

Overall, if I see someone I think its dangerous, I'm turning them in...No question




If someone is threatening or plotting violence, sure, turn them in. You've labeled everyone on the right as extremists. Do you think all extremists are dangerous? Would you turn in everyone on the right because they are "dangerous" even though most of them committed no crime?



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Originally Posted By: fishtheice
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- it was a vast improvement over Trump.



Putin has zero respect for this administration.

Maybe - I don't know. I do know the last administration acted like a pawn for Putin. So Biden is still a vast improvement. Why do you think Putin tried so hard to get Trump elected - twice.


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Exactly, 'no respect' is still more than one step up from on a leash in Putin's back pocket.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Doesn't anyone else find it odd that when Trump's hand picked head of Homeland security, chad Wolf claimed........

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White supremacists remain deadliest US terror threat, Homeland Security report says

"As Secretary, I am concerned about any form of violent extremism," wrote acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf. "However, I am particularly concerned about white supremacist violent extremists who have been exceptionally lethal in their abhorrent, targeted attacks in recent years."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/politics/...ment/index.html


......There wasn't a lot pf blowback about it. So it's not really about what gets said, it's about who says it.

And if somebody thinks we should let someone know about it before people die, that's such a terrible thing. What crazy BS will they come up with next?


I didn't say it well, but yeah, it's not what's said, it's who says it. Can't be the right way to think


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Did anyone see that one ABC News Reporter ask Putin "What are you so afraid of?"

He gave a long-winded non-answer, but it was still great to see.


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I did see it. Good for her.



Here's the follow-up (video in the link)...

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"You didn't answer my question, sir. If all of your political opponents are dead, in prison, poisoned, doesn't that send a message that you do not want a fair political fight?"

Putin responds to this question by bringing up the January 6 insurrection.

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After this embarrassment of a president, taking Putins word over our own intelligence community and deflecting to the Democrats in an international press conference, how in the hell can they complain about Biden who actually has the backbone to stand up to Russia?

The only thing Trump left with in his meeting with Putin was the taste of Putin's rear end on his lips.



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Laughable. Truly, utterly laughable.


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Did anyone see that one ABC News Reporter ask Putin "What are you so afraid of?"

He gave a long-winded non-answer, but it was still great to see.


Dude went on a rant. Putin was so upset at those questions he started sounding like trump and his followers.


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Thanks! I didn't see the follow-up.


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Funny what happens when you put a despotic leader in front of a press conference where he can't assassinate the people asking the questions.


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What is really laughable are "loyal Republicans"/patriots, who claim the election was stolen. Sidney Powell, in court defense, any reasonable person should know it was just our opinion- not fact.

JMHO- many Republicans are so caught up in conspiracies, false facts, liberal lunacy.....they don't know which end is up anymore. Hell, Georgia elected a gal who claims the school shooting are hoaxes.....how the hell you vote for someone that stupid/ ignorant is beyond me.

Old saying....sticks and stone will break my bones, but words will never hurt me. We, Americans, are in two main camps now and we can't talk to each other, because each group has THE FACTS and is ALL KNOWING and can't make a mistake.

Wake up, folks. We are all Americans and human and all are stupid and working for THEIR best interests...Compromise is the name of the game.

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Originally Posted By: dawglover05
Funny what happens when you put a despotic leader in front of a press conference where he can't assassinate the people asking the questions.


If you don’t think that reporter is now on Putins’s hit list. Well I just don’t know what to say.


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