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First play from scrimmage: have him run a 50-yard Go route and let Baker just heave it out there.

j/c...

I'm seeing that Schwartz never returned a kickoff or punt in his college career. That seems rather curious.

Seems to me the best ones to do that are the jitterbug types. Schwartz isn't that.

Felton IS. I think he's the man for the job.

Bingo.

It would not be curious IF he could not be relied on to secure the ball.

It might work. I didn’t think Cribbs was a jitterbug. He was a one cut and straight downhill after that with almost no wasted steps. Not sure if Schwartz will be that but it could work.

I am really excited to see this kid in orange and brown. I think he's going to turn into something special.

It might. I just think the jitterbug type tends to do best. It's all opinion here, so there is no right or wrong answer. It is just the right or wrong guy doing it.

He might, but he was a 4th rounder for a reason. My hope is he becomes a decent player who can command the respect of a safety to cover him over the top. If he does that, a TE up the seam should have a big impact.

Schwartz doesn't have to have huge catch totals to have a huge impact. The game inside the game sort of thing.

On that really long highlight real, I was expecting to see more than a couple long bombs where Schwartz just blew by the D on his routes. There weren't many of those at all.

Actually, he was a 3rd. Many high-quality players have been found in the 3rd and beyond. I think Schwartz will be another.

I think Schwartz will an asset to our team. He has the tools and is smart. He didn't get the best coaching at Auburn because they are not a pass oriented O. Here he will get better coaching and learn from the WR's.

Just because Auburn has a rep. for being a superior running team doesn't mean the receivers don't get quality coaching at the position.

j/c...

The whole argument over what disadvantages Schwartz faced at Auburn are overblown. He is a raw, unfinished product. Either he'll make the leap or he won't -- and I don't think it will have one iota of difference what college he went to.

Most shortcomings can be easily coached. He has good hands and knows how to catch a ball, so there are no worries there. He needs to learn how to change gears and use speed to his advantage; easily coached.

The only potential problems are durability (he looks pretty slight), and ball security. I can't find any numbers as to how many times he has fumbled, only one article that stated he needs to take care of the rock "to prevent so many fumbles". How many? Who knows. Maybe someone can find the info -- I gave up.

Yet he had more receptions than any other player at Auburn last season.

It sounds as if you're trying to have it both ways. If the disadvantages are being overblown, how can you say their WR with the most receptions is a raw, unfinished product?

I think from a technical standpoint you could qualify most every WR coming out of college as raw to some extent. Very few are what you would consider finished NFL products. But from the way you worded this it sounds like you're saying that Auburn WR's are not at any real disadvantage while trying to devalue their WR with the most receptions. I find that quite puzzling.

Maybe it's just the way I perceived your post?

If the disadvantages are being overblown, how can you say their WR with the most receptions is a raw, unfinished product?

Because I have good eyes lol. Here's what I read in most scouting reports though.

Weaknesses
Just six of his 117 total catches went for touchdowns.
Routes are unfocused and often ineffective underneath.
More quick-game gadget guy than true receiver at this time.
Disappointing effort in scramble mode.
Consistent issues tracking and adjusting to the long ball.
Instincts as a pass catcher are below par.
Needs to become catch-ready more quickly.
Focus and hand strength have been consistent issues.
"catch-and-run specialist"
"needs to develop the desired ball skills"

I don't really see any of that as "uncoachable", so I say "raw" rather than inept.

I think from a technical standpoint you could qualify most every WR coming out of college as raw to some extent. Very few are what you would consider finished NFL products. But from the way you worded this it sounds like you're saying that Auburn WR's are not at any real disadvantage while trying to devalue their WR with the most receptions.

Agree 100% with the first statement, there are only two or three WRs in each draft that translate immediately to great or elite. The funny thing is, usually one or two of them "flew under the radar" to a certain extent and got drafted later than the first round.

Schwartz did what he needed to do at Auburn, he did it quite well if he led the team in receptions. Not trying to devalue him at all, just saying that "making the jump" won't come automatically.

The point I'm really trying to make is that any shortcomings are merely a product of him needing some work and polish to be a real threat in the NFL, and the fact that he does need that has little to do with Auburn's offense. The fact that he led in receptions shows us that his talent wasn't stifled at Auburn.

More than anything, his SPEED is so ridiculous that he was able to be productive without polishing all the other tools in his belt. Transitioning to NFL cornerbacks, NFL schemes and NFL size and strength, will require the other tools -- at least for him to become a Pro Bowl caliber WR.

I think he's more than capable and he will prove to be an absolute steal for the Browns. He's got a good head on his shoulders, more than enough talent around him (coaches and players) to learn and adjust quickly, and seems like he is "ready to work". What more can you really ask for in a 3rd round draft pick?

It's obvious to me now after reading your further explanation that my perception of what you were trying to say was flawed. Thanks for clearing that up and I hope you can see how I may have taken your initial post differently.

Just to clarify. I do take those who break down players in the draft with a grain of salt. Certainly not gospel. I've read a lot of very good reviews on him from other sources. I'm not claiming who is right and who is wrong here but we'll find out soon enough.

No problem! Sometimes it's a matter of knowing what you're thinking but not putting it all in words properly. I'm definitely guilty of that from time to time.

No doubt about that either. Things get waaay over-analyzed. I usually read four or five scouting reports to find a common theme... but then I tend to think all these "gurus" probably just play a little "follow the leader" and just parrot each other.

What's always fun is to look back a couple years later for proof of how terrible they are in their projections, especially among those who weren't "can't miss" first rounders.

Players don't just learn to fix those particular weaknesses at the NFL level. There is not enough time in the year to teach a WR how to become a WR, if he is not yet a WR, on an NFL team. If those statements, in your weaknesses report, are true then he won't have a long career.

The problem is, how much time will he keep a real player off the roster because the team is trying to fix what can't be fixed.

(This is an unpopular but if true, necessary to be expressed thought.)

If he can't catch, I don't care how fast he is, he can run right back out into the parking lot.

My question; what about AB's player acquisition history has people believing he used a 3rd round pick on a one-trick pony?

Observations?

I have an observation. You posted this....



Yet multiple reports says he has good hands and catches well away from his body. It seems you either aren't reading the thread or aren't paying attention. Not sure which one.

Sure Handed, want to guess if his catch percentage per target exceeds that of Elijah Moore, who went to the Jets, from Ole Miss, at all points of his career.
He Was available for the Browns to pick at pick #26.
Or if he's going to have more Td's.

Per catchable ball or per target? There's a difference between a ball thrown in your direction that you can't reach and dropping a pass you should be able to catch.

Browns WR Jarvis Landry guides rookie Anthony Schwartz in early stages of journey
George M. Thomas
Akron Beacon Journal

https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/spor...rtz/5085123001/


Browns wide receiver Jarvis Landry spent time before the NFL Draft training with Anthony Schwartz.

The Browns selected Schwartz, a wide receiver from Auburn, in the third round of the draft.

Landry saw Schwartz after the draft and had a message for him, according to the rookie.

The message was “Congrats, get ready to go. We have a lot of big things ahead of us."

That statement came with more valuable advice and guidance after Schwartz’s big day.

“Now that we are on the same team, he would walk me through what to expect,” Schwartz said, “and he can take his time and walk me through the top of the routes and everything that comes with route running and being a successful receiver in the NFL. It has been great to learn all of that from him.

“He has taken me under his wing and he will send me an address and say, 'Meet me here' and we will get some work in there. It is just great to have him. Great to have a guy like that to show me the ropes."

Knowing Jarvis Landry
Just as noticeably, Schwartz, 6-feet, 185 pounds, has a grasp on the status Landry holds on this Browns team.

“Training with a guy like Jarvis is very good from my sense and just for everything really, because he’s a great guy," Schwartz said. "He’s good to be around, he was one of the instrumental players in changing everything and he’s one of the leaders on the team and just how I’ll be able to pick his brain and kind of take some tips from him on what to expect, what they’re expecting out of me and what I can do to improve myself and improve and just making that jump to the next level’s been very good.”

It’s served as a motivator already because Schwartz has adopted Landry’s attitude early on and the rookie, who ran a sub-4.3 40-yard dash prior to the draft, said his goal is to match and surpass Landry in their workouts.

It’s not as if Schwartz doesn’t have an example of how emulating Landry can help.

The Jarvis Landry effect
Second-year receiver Donovan Peoples-Jones worked out with Landry prior to the draft last year, ended up with the Browns and enjoyed what can be called a promising rookie season with 14 receptions for 304 yards, including a couple of clutch catches, in coach Kevin Stefanski’s run and tight-end dominated offense.

“It’s kind of encouraging for me because now I know I’m on the right track,” Schwartz said, “and especially with a guy like Jarvis, it’s the perfect guy to learn from.”

Schwartz’s former college coach, Gus Malzahn, who now coaches at Central Florida, watched the former track star improve in each of his three seasons at Auburn and expects his former player to continue to ascend on the football field despite the fact that there were some who labeled him a “speed” or “track” guy.

“He’s worked very hard to prove himself as a football player,” Malzahn said. “He’s improved each year and that’s why I think his best days are ahead of him … he’s a great competitor.”




Slow start?
No one is going to hold the first day of any practice against a rookie, but whether it was first-day jitters or something else, Schwartz dropped a couple of catchable passes.

Stefanski didn't sound concerned.

"I didn't get to watch him the whole time, but I'll go back and watch the tape. But I think you have to remember these guys who are throwing and catching, that battery of thrower and receiver are doing it for the first time," he said, "so they're not going to have pinpoint precision just yet between the two of them. But he's taking coaching and [receivers] coach [Chad] O'Shea is working him very hard in the meeting room and out there on the field."

What needs work?
Still Schwartz understands there are parts of his game that need to be developed. His speed was a weapon in college and it will be in the NFL to get over the top of defenses, but blocking in the run game is a huge priority in Stefanski’s offense.

“We haven’t talked into depth about that part of the game," Schwartz said. "That’s one of our three keys to playing receiver for us, so I know it’s something I have to improve on.

"It’s something I want to improve on and it will help me get on the field more, help me stay on the field more and I can’t wait to start that part. And I can’t want to see the improvement from my college career to now in terms of a blocking standpoint.”

That is something he can probably pick up from Landry, too. Landry has a reputation of being one of the better blockers at his position in the league and Schwartz said the way Landry teaches in general makes concepts easy to understand.

“He always says, ‘At the end of the day, you’re playing the same game you played your whole life, and you have to do this much more,”’ Schwartz said.

Why was I so negative. (In 1991 ish the Raiders took Rocket Ishmail, Raghab Ishmail, and I feel like it went bad iirc, and 32 GM's learned never to do that again, until the Browns come to set the example for a new generation.) That was in my subconscious mind.

Schwartz is better than Ishmail, he's going to be a great player and a fine receiver. Good Luck and Go Browns.

This is the problem in much of your reasoning. You usually site a single isolated instance from the past to super impose on a current Browns decision or player. You cherry pick the past event to supprt your position and ignore any evidence that might disprove your argument.

The first and most obvious flaw is relying on a single data point as conclusive evidence. Then, you don't account for variables. In this case, offensive, scheme, defensive schemes that players will face, aquarterbacking, or any variance based on the era of play, the lists list goes on.

You certainly have the right to do these things. But readers have the right to judge the validity of your post.

Oops meant for TL.

Double-oops, unless you meant to "Like" your own post. I'm guessing that was an accident.

I'm not researched enough to cherry pick,
(look at multiple ideas and chose one out, would require I look at any ideas in the first place.

"Single data point" I don't use any data points!
Carry on. (coach speak)

There is a certain amount of irony in your statement..." I didn't use any data points"

I should have just said, "in the example you used to explain your opinion." So, you got me there. Plain language is usually better. It doesn't change my issue with your post.

LOL. Well done, sir.

SpaceBalls?!?

I think he is a WR who won't see the field much his first year and will have time to develop. If Landry is pushing him hard and he is willing to bust his but to soak in what he teaches him then he will become successful. The kid has awesome speed and his head on strait along with a good work ethic.

I think he will do well.