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Nancy Pelosi is very very very bad for America.
She appears to believe in absolute power a dictatorship.
She is also very very very very dangerous for America.

Here’s the thing. Those morons held no such thing as “the reality” that the election was stolen. The brain dead losers believed a conman and known liar. They got duped and were too riled up to see it. Then they acted to attempt to overthrow the actual REAL election. They are and continue to be poor losers… on top of being general losers in the human sense.
Every thing else you wrote was based in no reality. Or you reside in an alternate universe.

oh snap... rofl

Wait wait wait, you think Nancy is bad and dangerous and wants a dictatorship but Trump is good, safe, and wants true democracy? OMG.

Provide evidence of that, and then sure, investigate whoever. But quit acting like "leftists" are the only side lying. That's the issue anymore. Both sides point at the other as the cause of all problems, yet BOTH are different sides of the same coin. They are exactly the same.

All I ever hear is "Just obey the cops and you won't have a problem", yet here and now, in this case, the people pushing that sentiment the most are the very ones now saying it wasn't justified. It's hypocrisy at it's finest. Our guys are in the right, even when they're not.

That's not the same, and you know it. When you have a crowd storming the Capitol and breaking down doors into Congress' personal chambers and where they are holding a hearing, that is a much different situation than protestors. ALL the people who entered the Capitol were criminals. Every single one. A FEW of the protestors were criminals. Prosecute them as you will, and if they were threatening someone's life, then act accordingly.

Peaceful protests is fine, by either side. Storming the Capitol isn't peaceful. Looting and vandalizing is also isn't peaceful.

The BLM rioters were way worse. They destroyed people's property and livelyhoods. The Jan 6 people did nothing but mess up some offices.

According to Damon's logic, the BLM rioters should all pay with their lives.

You people are disgusting.

someone's bored tonight.



No bites tonight.
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GOP Reps. Demand Explanation For Why Capitol Protesters Are Being Jailed When BLM Protesters Were Not

By Rusty Weiss


July 21, 2021

Representative Lauren Boebert and ten House Republicans sent a letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland demanding to know why protesters at the Capitol on January 6th are being arrested and jailed – some for going on six months now – while many BLM protesters were not.

The letter asks Garland to explain an “inconsistent application of the law with respect to rioters across the country.”

“The foundation of our criminal justice system requires that all defendants are treated equally before the law, but the Biden regime is not living up to this solemn obligation,” Boebert (R-CO) said in a statement.

Addressing the matter on Twitter, Boebert added that the Biden administration is using “indefinite detention” as “a tactic used to coerce confessions or entice a plea.”



Boebert is demanding to know why there seems to be two sets of laws and punishment – one for BLM protesters and one for Trump-supporting protesters.
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A report by The Guardian indicates that dozens “of those defendants (Capitol protesters) remained in detention.”

56 people are still behind bars well over six months after the incident took place.

Earlier this week, a man who pled guilty to breaching the Senate chamber during the January protest was sentenced to eight months in prison.

CNN describes the nefarious acts this particular man carried out as such: “He spent about 15 minutes inside the Senate chamber, wearing a Donald Trump shirt and carrying a Trump flag.”

He was not accused of any violent act.

The letter to AG Garland, according to the Daily Mail, notes that prosecutors have signed off on at least a dozen “deferred resolution agreements in federal felony cases” from clashes in last year’s BLM protests.

In April, Politico fretted that federal prosecutors’ “show of leniency” for Black Lives Matter protesters in Portland would lead to lesser charges for those entangled in the Capitol incident.

That doesn’t seem to be the case here.

The prosecutors issued dozens of probation agreements for BLM protesters that would “leave the defendants with a clean criminal record if they stay out of trouble.”

“Some lawyers attribute the government’s newfound willingness to resolve the Portland protest cases without criminal convictions to the arrival of President Joe Biden’s administration,” Politico wrote at the time.

Claims Of Being Beaten By Jail Guards

A suspect held on charges stemming from the Capitol riot has alleged that he was “severely beaten” by jail guards, while another claimed others held are being subjected to “violence, threats, and verbal harassment.”

https://thepoliticalinsider.com/gop-reps...oLWIp0imRWNuJnI

This comment shows how little you understand of the events of Jan 6. It's not just the breaking and entering and destruction of property.

It's the threats to the lives of congress. Does hang Mike Pence ring a bell for you?

Yes, it's astounding that people like you simply turn a blind eye to the effort to overthrow the government.

Worse yet is that some folks seem to think that BLM, Democrats, Antifa were the ones that were rioting.

Explain again why they would riot to change the results of an election they already won? Explain that.

I'm a former Republican, can't be one with Trump leading the party. He's unfit to lead. I laugh at Republicans who say Nancy P. is bad for America. Why- check her record as a human being with Trump. She's been married to same person for nearly 60 years. Donald changes wives like his underwear. Check out her children and their contributions, compared to Trump- no comparison. Trump, the non-politician, hasn't admitted he lost the election- can't give up power. Nancy has been elected 18 times to represent her district- damn she must be doing a crap job. I dislike many Democratic positions. Yet, I can't be a Republican if Trump and his Hitler type youth are marching in lockstep. How much wall was built, who paid for it, who stole money from our military to build some of it....here's Donny. He's a liar, con man, and TAX fraud- and you elected him President. He was my President and I thank God every day he got beat the second time. Peace to all.

Let me put it this way...if during the riots someone had already trespassed (as part of a mob mind you) onto private property, then violently broke into - or attempted to break into - an area where innocent people or victims were located, that person could have justifiably been shot, too.

A federal judge forced a US Capitol rioter to unlock his laptop Wednesday after prosecutors argued that it likely contained footage of the January 6 insurrection from his helmet-worn camera.

The judge granted the Justice Department’s request to place Capitol riot defendant Guy Reffitt in front of his laptop so they could use facial recognition to unlock the device. The maneuver happened after the hearing ended and Reffitt’s lawyer confirmed to CNN that the laptop was unlocked.

Investigators seized the laptop and other devices earlier this year pursuant to a search warrant.

Reffitt has been in jail since his arrest in January. His case received national attention after his son spoke publicly about how Reffitt had threatened to kill family members if they turned him into the FBI. The case became an example of how former President Donald Trump’s lies tore some families apart – Reffitt’s son and daughter testified against him in court or before the grand jury.

Threatening to kill people and then trying to break into the room where they are so you have access to kill them is not the same thing. I mean, speaking of Whoosh.

But it was just another tourist tour of the Capitol?… right?

Anyone who downplays the events of 1/6 is just as big a loser as those intellectually stunted mouthbreathers that stormed the Capitol. Period.

"It was zero threat, right from the start, it was zero threat," Trump told Fox. "Look, they went in, they shouldn't have done it. Some of them went in, and they are hugging and kissing the police and the guards, you know, they had great relationships, and a lot of the people were waived in, and then they walked in and they walked out."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-cl...ory?id=76702608

So our Justice Department doesn't have the ability or resources to bypass facial recognition software and unlock a personal laptop? That's reassuring.

NOTHING BUT MESS UP SOME OFFICES?

You have no idea what your talking about...

Also, according to your interpretation of my logic... but not my logic..

Learn to know the difference

Being a trump fan, how can you, with a straight face, call Pelosi bad for America?

Seriously, Trump tried to get his minions to over throw the election? That's unamerican.... and you still support him.

I have never really identified myself as a republican or democrat. Knowing that no single candidate or party could be a perfect choice.

My feelings were that in order to work as a government there had to be compromise. If that happens then you can serve a broader group and truly represent the people.

Today watching the republican party trying to whitewash IMO the worst day of American history (Jan 6th) is repulsive.

The republican party is lost in trying to pacify a base of people that does not represent the majority.

Nor does it represent the middle of compromise.

As an American I find myself disgusted by what is going on.

Not for nothing, but is there a reasonable chance that the laptop was booby trapped. If an attempt to hack was discovered it would self destruct? Maybe?

Or was it just smarter to use his face rather than spending hours and dollars to hack into it.

Guessing you didn't allow for anything like that did ya?

Police union says 140 officers injured in Capitol riot

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/pub...0297_story.html

More than a dozen police officers still on medical leave from Jan. 6 injuries

https://thehill.com/policy/national-secu...ficers-still-on

I see where she made her mistake. She left the letter R out of officers.



offices = officeRs

Thus correcting her statement. "The Jan 6th people did nothing but mess up some officers."

Not to mention Trump wanted and still wants to be a King with no oversight and total control. Smh.

LOL. That was my first thought.

lol Ok I give you credit for being clever.

But no credit that they harmed more officers than they did offices?

j/c

Speaking of dementia. Or is this Trump's drunk Nixon impression?

“They were ushered in by the police. I mean, in all fairness, the Capitol Police were ushering people in,” Trump said. “The Capitol Police were very friendly, you know they were hugging and kissing. You don’t see that, but there’s plenty of tape on that too.”

j/c

Tucker Carlson attacks Black officer who says he was called the N-word during the Capitol riot

Wilson Wong
Thu, July 22, 2021, 8:08 AM·2 min read

Fox News host Tucker Carlson called a Black police officer who said he was called the N-word while defending the Capitol on Jan. 6 an "angry, left-wing political activist" on Wednesday.

In April, Capitol police Officer Harry Dunn told "The ReidOut" host Joy Reid that Black officers fought a "different" battle than everybody else as they endured both physical trauma and racist slurs while fending off supporters of former President Donald Trump who stormed the Capitol.

Dunn is among the first people set to testify on July 27 before a new House committee created to investigate the Capitol riot. Ahead of Dunn's testimony, Carlson verbally attacked the officer's impartiality as a witness, citing past social media posts that involved Democratic lawmakers.

“Dunn will pretend to speak for the country's law enforcement community, but it turns out Dunn has very little in common with your average cop,” Carlson said on his show. “Dunn is an angry, left-wing political activist.”

Backlash on social media was swift.

"Forever grateful to officers like Harry Dunn," Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., tweeted on Wednesday. "He put his body between lawmakers and an armed mob."

Dunn's attorneys also responded, posting a lenghty statement on Twitter.

"Tonight Fox News allowed its host Tucker Carlson, who has not served a day in uniform, whether military or law enforcement, to criticize the heroism and service of African-American U.S. Capitol Police Officer Harry Dunn," David H. Laufman and Mark S. Zaid said in the statement.

“Our client has served 13 years in law enforcement and on January 6, 2021, fought against an insurrectionist violent crowd — no doubt many of them Carlson’s supporters — to protect the lives of our elected officials, including Vice President Pence,” they said.

The lawyers added Dunn would "lay down his life to protect a Member of Congress, regardless of being a Republican or Democrat," and would continue to testify next Tuesday.

Dunn and other Capitol officers have all aggressively lobbied for a bipartisan commission to investigate the Jan. 6 riot, but legislation to form the panel fell short of the 60 votes needed to move forward.

More than 500 people have been criminally charged six months after the pro-Trump mob stormed the Capitol to stop Congress from formally accepting the Electoral College votes that delivered November's election to President Joe Biden. The riot left five people dead, including Capitol police Officer Brian Sicknick.

Fox News did not immediately respond to a request for comment Thursday.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tucker-carlson-attacks-black-officer-130837313.html

Blue lives matter only when they agree with you. Blue lives matter except on January 6th.

And the beat goes on.....

I'm not saying this to diminish what he's talking about, but I'm not sure bringing racism into the equation in these hearings is the best move. Not that it isn't important, I just don't think it serves the purpose of the committee (investigate and find out everything that went into the insurrection that breached the Capitol and those responsible). There's already going to be enough intentional derailment attempted, I'm not sure tempting the group to get into a race debate is the most productive thing to add in.

The officer was just reporting the facts of what happened on January 6th. I mean if he's asked what he saw and heard, should he intentionally leave out part of those facts? I do understand your point but I don't think a witness being asked what he saw and what he heard should selectively not say and report what he saw and heard. I'm sure we probably see this in a different light, but to me if what he saw and hears is racism, it wasn't he who brought racism into it. It was those who said these things that did.

And injured hundreds of police and killed one but whos counting.

Not trying to give him any credit for his spin here, but that does remain a mystery to me as to why some of the police took smiling selfies and removed barricades.

Blue lives only matter when they are white

Come on. Those are some pretty lame excuses. I'd like to think that federal investigators could easily bypass facial recognition software to obtain vital information. What if they were to obtain a foreign terrorist's laptop containing info on their next target?

Hey, Osama.... can we borrow your face for a minute?

jfan, if modern biometrics security on devices were easy to hack what would be the purpose? Just like apple phones there is no back door and the individualized encryption on each phone, tablet, or laptop prevents you from being able to read anything you might be able to access without proper authorization. So I'm not surprised at all that they couldn't hack it... hell the government still uses windows 95 on some computers... windows 95.

But I've also heard that high resolution pics, like 4k or 8k can sometimes fool the facial recognition. I've never seen this and I'm not sure it's true because I just heard it in a forum somewhere.

If the Russians can rig an election on Facebook, we should be able to crack into a laptop. We're not talking about the Mayberry police, we're talking about the US Justice Department.

The russians used memes to spread disinformation, that's hardly hacking. Like I said, the government uses old computers on a lot of things. So expecting them to be super tech savvy and be able to hack phone software id just wishful thinking IMHO. I'm sure they have some good hackers on staff, but you have to have something you can exploit to be able to hack anything. These tech manufacturers also have solid coders on staff whose job is to prevent 3rd party hacking of the phones. I'd almost guarantee that they can make security changes faster than any government can find new exploits of their tech.

This isn't the first time we've heard this in a case. And do you remember the privacy uproar a few years back when the government talked about making tech companies provide a back door? We really don't want them having that capability. Imagine having your phone scanned by an AI to see what intel you might provide on yourself or others... then imagine that in the wrong hands... and most of the time the government WOULD BE the wrong hands.

Yeah? Well, all I know is Jack Bauer would be in that laptop in no time.