It's long past due that we ban all these idiotic Governors who are killing our citizens with their pure stupidity.
Time to vote them out of office as they keep killing off their own voters
Have you heard the latest from Texas?
Gregg Abbott (fully vaxed, by the way) was diagnosed COVID-positive, freaked out... and insisted on getting the same monoclonal antibody treatment given to Dump45*. He's also told close friends that he's also gotten a THIRD shot.
I mentioned it a couple days ago, but I'll specifically repeat it now for his hypocritical ass: he should be arrested and charged with negligent homicide.
What an absolute puddle of diarrhea (yes- worse than a p.o.s.)
It's long past due that we ban all these idiotic Governors who are killing our citizens with their pure stupidity.
Time to vote them out of office as they keep killing off their own voters
Have you heard the latest from Texas?
Gregg Abbott (fully vaxed, by the way) was diagnosed COVID-positive, freaked out... and insisted on getting the same monoclonal antibody treatment given to Dump45*. He's also told close friends that he's also gotten a THIRD shot.
I mentioned it a couple days ago, but I'll specifically repeat it now for his hypocritical ass: he should be arrested and charged with negligent homicide.
What an absolute puddle of diarrhea (yes- worse than a p.o.s.)
He’s enjoying great socialized (tax payer funded) medicine while the rest of us get bent over by for profit medicine.
Here's what I don't understand. This morning, on the radio, I heard the CDC is recommending a booster shot 8 months after having had the 2nd shot of moderna or fizer(phizer).
This afternoon, I see the WHO, and the surgeon general of the u.s. are saying it's not needed.
Here's what I don't understand. This morning, on the radio, I heard the CDC is recommending a booster shot 8 months after having had the 2nd shot of moderna or fizer(phizer).
This afternoon, I see the WHO, and the surgeon general of the u.s. are saying it's not needed.
It's frustrating, really.
And, no mention of the J+J vaccine.
They really need to get their messaging synched up.
All I want to hear is the truth. Not what they think I can handle, the truth. I got my shots as soon as I was able. I wore my masks without complaining. I did my civic duty but enough is enough. I'm tired of all the political bs. Don't tell me to wear a mask just to wear one. The science has spoken. If it isn't A N95 then it really isn't working. Come out and tell all of this fact. Getting the shots won't stop you from getting Covid but it sure makes it less likely and if you do you most likely won't die.
Also I want to know the truth about how Covid is attacking healthy minors. How serious is this to them? I have heard all kinds of stuff but I don't know what is what anymore. I have a friend who told me her son's doctor advised her against getting the shot. Is he some quack? Or is he right when he says that?
Here's what I don't understand. This morning, on the radio, I heard the CDC is recommending a booster shot 8 months after having had the 2nd shot of moderna or fizer(phizer).
This afternoon, I see the WHO, and the surgeon general of the u.s. are saying it's not needed.
It's frustrating, really.
And, no mention of the J+J vaccine.
The CDC is advising on behalf of American interests and are recommending a booster vaccine after 8 months for immunocompromised individuals. The Department of HHS took it a step further and issued a statement that after September 20th, they will be prepared to offer booster to all Americans who previously received the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/immuno.html
The WHO is advocating against booster shots for the time being, stating it is more important to distribute vaccines to the rest of the world before wealthy nations begin offering boosters. https://www.statnews.com/2021/08/04/who-...id-19-vaccines/
The US Surgeon General and Dept. of HHS addressed the J&J vaccine booster in their joint statement:
“We also anticipate booster shots will likely be needed for people who received the Johnson & Johnson (J&J) vaccine. Administration of the J&J vaccine did not begin in the U.S. until March 2021, and we expect more data on J&J in the next few weeks. With those data in hand, we will keep the public informed with a timely plan for J&J booster shots as well.
My issue, and yes everyone in my IMMEDIATE family is vaccinated -but my issue is "HOW can the CDC rec. something in the morning, and the WHO and the u.s. surgeon general say something different the same day?"
It's getting to the point where it's like "screw it. If you're told 1 thing, and you don't like it, forget it, cause some other expert/s will say different later in the day."
Another thing I'm curious about. Just listened to a bit of Biden talking about the booster shots. A comment was "get it. It's free"...........and it got me thinking yeah, free to the individual. But not free to the gov't. How much money is being spent on the vaccines by the gov't.?
And then, which gov't. officials are stock holders in the vaccine companies?
As for kids, I mentioned a few weeks ago - about my cousin's kid. His mom, my cousin, asked their doctor about him being vaccinated. The doctor flat out said "he has about the same chance of having trouble from the vaccine as he does if he gets covid. .085%" (or something like that.
I just want the truth also. And if the truth is changing daily, it makes it hard to get behind anything.
1st the J&J vaccine. so far there is no evidence of waning immunity so no vaccine booster is needed at this time.
Pfizer and Moderna - there is evidence to suggest that over time these mRNA vaccines do have some loss of effectiveness over time. This decrease in protection has led to many/most of the breakthrough infections. This has not led to an increase in hospitalizations nor deaths.
CDC interpretation: This is concerning that the next step is that waning immunity will lead to increasing hospitalizations and deaths in the vaccinated so we want to be preemptive with our interventions and keep peoples immunities high before it becomes a problem.
WHO interpretation: yes immunity does wane and that does lead to an increase in breakthrough infections. But it has not led to an increase in hospitalizations or deaths. So it makes more sense to vaccinate the unvaccinated to get as many some protection rather than boosting those that are already protected to a significant extent.
Am I perfect? No Am I trying to be a better person? Also no
1st the J&J vaccine. so far there is no evidence of waning immunity so no vaccine booster is needed at this time.
Pfizer and Moderna - there is evidence to suggest that over time these mRNA vaccines do have some loss of effectiveness over time. This decrease in protection has led to many/most of the breakthrough infections. This has not led to an increase in hospitalizations nor deaths.
CDC interpretation: This is concerning that the next step is that waning immunity will lead to increasing hospitalizations and deaths in the vaccinated so we want to be preemptive with our interventions and keep peoples immunities high before it becomes a problem.
WHO interpretation: yes immunity does wane and that does lead to an increase in breakthrough infections. But it has not led to an increase in hospitalizations or deaths. So it makes more sense to vaccinate the unvaccinated to get as many some protection rather than boosting those that are already protected to a significant extent.
I think that all makes sense - but more importantly to my way of thinking, is that globally in the fight against Covid and it's variants ... we are going to be as strong as our weakest link. It's not going to be much use to the USA if we get everyone a booster shot but new variants are being produced in countries like Tunisia and India etc that then inevitably get transmitted throughout Europe and Nth America and our vaccines are less effective .... And not only less effective but from what I can gather, Covid spread through vaccinated people has a higher potential to mutate and create other new variants. Getting more of the world vaccinated should without doubt be a high priority.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Here's what I don't understand. This morning, on the radio, I heard the CDC is recommending a booster shot 8 months after having had the 2nd shot of moderna or fizer(phizer).
This afternoon, I see the WHO, and the surgeon general of the u.s. are saying it's not needed.
It's frustrating, really.
And, no mention of the J+J vaccine.
They really need to get their messaging synched up.
All I want to hear is the truth. Not what they think I can handle, the truth. I got my shots as soon as I was able. I wore my masks without complaining. I did my civic duty but enough is enough. I'm tired of all the political bs. Don't tell me to wear a mask just to wear one. The science has spoken. If it isn't A N95 then it really isn't working. Come out and tell all of this fact. Getting the shots won't stop you from getting Covid but it sure makes it less likely and if you do you most likely won't die.
Also I want to know the truth about how Covid is attacking healthy minors. How serious is this to them? I have heard all kinds of stuff but I don't know what is what anymore. I have a friend who told me her son's doctor advised her against getting the shot. Is he some quack? Or is he right when he says that?
End rant
It's about fear at this point.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Gregg Abbott (fully vaxed, by the way) was diagnosed COVID-positive, freaked out... and insisted on getting the same monoclonal antibody treatment given to Dump45*. He's also told close friends that he's also gotten a THIRD shot.
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
But I thought that treatment was only approved for emergency use for Covid?
I want to make a PSA about the use of monoclonal antibodies.
My father in-law received the treatment when he was put in the hospital with COVID-19. It was a success. He was out in 3 days, and I will state that we were very concerned for him as he was 84 at the time.
And yes, monoclonal antibodies are under emergency use authorization as well, but if you get COVID-19, somehow that does not matter.
It is readily available, but works best the earlier that it is given.
Most people do not know about it, or ask for it when it is too late.
In Florida the Governor is opening dozens of centers to provide that. Not much is reported about that. Each center will be able to help around 300 people a day.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
I would doubt they would be able to treat 300 people per day. 1st the infusion takes several hours so space is limited. Additionally you need staffing which is already short.
My hospital has one of those centers and we can treat a max of 7 patients per day.
Am I perfect? No Am I trying to be a better person? Also no
I would doubt they would be able to treat 300 people per day. 1st the infusion takes several hours so space is limited. Additionally you need staffing which is already short.
My hospital has one of those centers and we can treat a max of 7 patients per day.
Maybe the totals would be combined for a total of 300ish.
I'll defer to your experience.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Fear mongering like the emotional but unsubstantiated claim that 10,000s of infected illegals are flooding our open southern border?
Or maybe stop and appreciate the CDC is only concerned about best advice for the USA while the WHO is interested in a global perspective. Not at all surprising the two viewpoints differ.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
This in the state where the governor has outlawed school mask mandates.
If you wish to blame those beds being filled are due to fear, I'll point out that the current circumstances dictate that DeSantis is filled with stupidity. As a matter of fact it wouldn't be much of a stretch to say anyone claiming that fear was the motivation behind trying to keep our people safe resemble my comment regarding DeSantis.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Here's what I don't understand. This morning, on the radio, I heard the CDC is recommending a booster shot 8 months after having had the 2nd shot of moderna or fizer(phizer).
This afternoon, I see the WHO, and the surgeon general of the u.s. are saying it's not needed.
It's frustrating, really.
And, no mention of the J+J vaccine.
I think the biggest problem right now is a lack of communications or expectation. I know that it seems difficult because there have been unpredictable turns, but it would nice to see what the planned next steps are that we're looking to see. Perhaps I'm just missing it, but things seem very haphazard right now.
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I remember many years ago how we would have what was known as PSA's (public service announcements) regarding important things concerning our society. Television spots that helped inform the public. I have no idea why we aren't and haven't see those type of things on TV concerning Covid.
I'm only guessing when I say that since there's news daily giving the public such updates they don't think they're needed but I would certainly think they would be helpful.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
An angry parent allegedly ripped off a teacher's mask. It's not the only physical altercation over masks in schools.
By Caitlin O'Kane
August 18, 2021 / 11:08 AM / CBS News
A parent in Austin, Texas has been accused of physically assaulting a teacher during a back-to-school event – over mask wearing. It's not the only incident of its kind. Several incidents at schools and local school board meetings have gained national attention as debates over mask requirements turn heated, some of them resulting in physical violence.
Superintendent Tom Leonard of Austin's Eanes Independent School District confirmed in a letter to parents and staff this week that a parent "physically assaulted a teacher by ripping a mask off her face," at a "Meet the Teacher" event.
Leonard said other parents yelled "at a teacher to take off her mask because they could not understand what the teacher was saying while her face was covered."
The school district is following an order that mandates masks in all schools in Travis County, and will do so unless the Texas Supreme Court eventually rules this order is superseded by an executive order from Governor Greg Abbott, Leonard said.
The superintendent said while the order requires masks be warn by students, the way it is written is "problematic" in that the district has "no legal methods to enforce the wearing of masks."
"We will not make our staff the 'mask police' with no authority to enforce the rule," Leonard said.
He also urged parents to treat staff with respect. "Our staff are on the front lines of this pandemic; let's give them some space and grace. Please, I am asking everyone to be kind...do not fight mask wars in our schools," he wrote.
Abbott, who announced Tuesday he tested positive for COVID-19, is resisting new restrictions to prevent the spread of the virus.
Earlier this month, Abbott banned local governments from putting COVID-19 restrictions back in place and has challenged local school districts that have tried to mandate masks.
Because children younger than 12 cannot get vaccinated and masks are proven to slow the spread of COVID-19, many municipalities and school districts are going against Abbott's desire to prevent mask mandates.
On Sunday, a district judge in Bexar County ruled in favor of San Antonio's mask mandate. But on the same day, Texas Supreme Court temporarily ruled mask mandates in Dallas and San Antonio could not be enforced, CBS Austin reports.
Texas has reported 2,834,135 COVID-19 cases and 13,142,183 people vaccinated – 65.67% of the state's population, according to Texas Department of Health and Human Services.
Hospitals around the U.S. report the vast majority of their cases are unvaccinated people. Doctors are also reporting an increase in child COVID-19 cases and say kids are experiencing more serious illness with the Delta variant rapidly spreading.
Many experts also say the best way to protect children younger than 12 is to wear masks and for adults around them to be vaccinated.
Still, the debate over requiring preventative measures like vaccines and masks rages on. In California, a father is accused of attacking teacher over school masks on the first day of school.
The fight at Sutter Creek Elementary broke out when the father was picking up his child from school and reportedly confronted staff about kids needing to wear masks, CBS Sacramento reports.
The father verbally assaulted the principal. A male teacher reportedly stepped in and a physical altercation ensued. The teacher was injured and treated at the hospital, according to CBS Sacramento. Police are investigating the incident and the father has reportedly been banned from the school's campus.
Masks are required in California schools, and Governor Gavin Newsom also announced last week that all school staff will be required to be vaccinated or receive weekly testing.
In May, a school board meeting in Utah erupted into chaos as dozens of people angrily protested the state's school mask policy. About two months later, 11 members of that angry mob were charged with disorderly conduct and disrupting a public meeting.
In other states, the debate between officials is more contentious, as state and local governments clash over mask requirements. Like Abbott, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has put a ban on mask mandates.
Two school districts in Alachua and Broward counties have said they will require masks and were told they could face possible loss of funding, removal of local officials and further action from the state legislature if they defy the order. The Miami-Dade County School Board is also expected to approve a mask mandate for students on Wednesday.
Florida leads the nation in pediatric hospitalizations.
Arizona Governor Doug Ducey has threatened schools that have mask mandates or have to close because of COVID-19 outbreaks won't be eligible funding from his new $163 million school grant program.
Here's what I don't understand. This morning, on the radio, I heard the CDC is recommending a booster shot 8 months after having had the 2nd shot of moderna or fizer(phizer).
This afternoon, I see the WHO, and the surgeon general of the u.s. are saying it's not needed.
It's frustrating, really.
And, no mention of the J+J vaccine.
I think the biggest problem right now is a lack of communications or expectation. I know that it seems difficult because there have been unpredictable turns, but it would nice to see what the planned next steps are that we're looking to see. Perhaps I'm just missing it, but things seem very haphazard right now.
Not to criticize leadership, because there have been a lot of twists and turns, but I would expect that by now there would be "here's the road ahead" type mission statement. Maybe a national town hall meeting type event. Would probably go a long way to dispelling rumors and instilling a bit more confidence in the process. Most times it seems the exact opposite -- nobody on the same page and social media algorithms leading the spread of misinformation.
I remember many years ago how we would have what was known as PSA's (public service announcements) regarding important things concerning our society. Television spots that helped inform the public. I have no idea why we aren't and haven't see those type of things on TV concerning Covid.
Clearly you don't watch enough TV. I have seen a fair number. Not as many as there could have been and not as many lately. Many were by Trump’s Surgeon General, Dr. Jerome Adams. But I've seen one from Biden's Surgeon General and a few others.
Am I perfect? No Am I trying to be a better person? Also no
These individuals are too afraid to get vaccinated, they are afraid that they will look stupid if they wear a mask, then they get sick from covid, can't breath and are afraid of dying.
So yes, I would say that the ICU's are full because of fear.
Am I perfect? No Am I trying to be a better person? Also no
I agree that some of it is due to fear though I had never thought about it that way before reading your post. But I think some of it is due to political stubbornness and misinformation as well.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Here's what I don't understand. This morning, on the radio, I heard the CDC is recommending a booster shot 8 months after having had the 2nd shot of moderna or fizer(phizer).
This afternoon, I see the WHO, and the surgeon general of the u.s. are saying it's not needed.
It's frustrating, really.
And, no mention of the J+J vaccine.
I think the biggest problem right now is a lack of communications or expectation. I know that it seems difficult because there have been unpredictable turns, but it would nice to see what the planned next steps are that we're looking to see. Perhaps I'm just missing it, but things seem very haphazard right now.
Not to criticize leadership, because there have been a lot of twists and turns, but I would expect that by now there would be "here's the road ahead" type mission statement. Maybe a national town hall meeting type event. Would probably go a long way to dispelling rumors and instilling a bit more confidence in the process. Most times it seems the exact opposite -- nobody on the same page and social media algorithms leading the spread of misinformation.
Not to disagree - but who do we want to hear the town hall meeting from?
Biden - I doubt it. 35% of the country think he's an AOC / communist puppet. Add to that the question of whether you want a Federally mandated response or state led?
States? - They are all over the place. Desantis just said if kids test positive for Covid they don't need to quarantine! There is zero continuity of message and advice.
The CDC? - again, 35% of the country or more think the CDC is corrupt and lying and making things up.
The WHO? - Worse - 50% of the country think they are corrupt or have been manipulated by China or worse.
Who is it that can lead this and set the table.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Here's what I don't understand. This morning, on the radio, I heard the CDC is recommending a booster shot 8 months after having had the 2nd shot of moderna or fizer(phizer).
This afternoon, I see the WHO, and the surgeon general of the u.s. are saying it's not needed.
It's frustrating, really.
And, no mention of the J+J vaccine.
I think the biggest problem right now is a lack of communications or expectation. I know that it seems difficult because there have been unpredictable turns, but it would nice to see what the planned next steps are that we're looking to see. Perhaps I'm just missing it, but things seem very haphazard right now.
Not to criticize leadership, because there have been a lot of twists and turns, but I would expect that by now there would be "here's the road ahead" type mission statement. Maybe a national town hall meeting type event. Would probably go a long way to dispelling rumors and instilling a bit more confidence in the process. Most times it seems the exact opposite -- nobody on the same page and social media algorithms leading the spread of misinformation.
Not to disagree - but who do we want to hear the town hall meeting from?
Biden - I doubt it. 35% of the country think he's an AOC / communist puppet. Add to that the question of whether you want a Federally mandated response or state led?
States? - They are all over the place. Desantis just said if kids test positive for Covid they don't need to quarantine! There is zero continuity of message and advice.
The CDC? - again, 35% of the country or more think the CDC is corrupt and lying and making things up.
The WHO? - Worse - 50% of the country think they are corrupt or have been manipulated by China or worse.
Who is it that can lead this and set the table.
First, it was just really a "food for thought" line to throw in the water.
How 'bout all of the above... POTUS, state reps, CDC, WHO...
Led by an "esteemed" (I use that term loosely) member of the media and questions from the peanut gallery (us). Throw a few corporate heads in there if you want to. Put all these asses in the same room and see if they can provide a little continuity with the "message". Too many mixed messages over social media is like watching a bad tennis match.
It would inspire a lot more confidence (as far as our direction goes) if there were some sort of consortium, out in the open, and it looked like our leaders were on the same page.
That actually sounds like a great idea. There's many I feel wouldn't be convinced no matter what but for anyone on the fence or confused about mixed messages it could go a long way.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
I agree that some of it is due to fear though I had never thought about it that way before reading your post. But I think some of it is due to political stubbornness and misinformation as well.
Well since political stubbornness and misinformation on the right are FEAR based; both might be right.
Here's what I don't understand. This morning, on the radio, I heard the CDC is recommending a booster shot 8 months after having had the 2nd shot of moderna or fizer(phizer).
This afternoon, I see the WHO, and the surgeon general of the u.s. are saying it's not needed.
It's frustrating, really.
And, no mention of the J+J vaccine.
Makes you really wonder just how effective the vaccines were considering a booster is needed this soon. Not a good sign. First thought I had, if I get the booster when's the next one. I may NOT be getting that one.
Here's what I don't understand. This morning, on the radio, I heard the CDC is recommending a booster shot 8 months after having had the 2nd shot of moderna or fizer(phizer).
This afternoon, I see the WHO, and the surgeon general of the u.s. are saying it's not needed.
It's frustrating, really.
And, no mention of the J+J vaccine.
Makes you really wonder just how effective the vaccines were considering a booster is needed this soon. Not a good sign. First thought I had, if I get the booster when's the next one. I may NOT be getting that one.
Just look at the data and you will be convinced. Or simply go with your emotions. Choice is yours.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Well with variants mutating in the unvaccinated, we may need entirely NEW vaccines or many boosters before this is over. All because some people don't want to wear a mask or get the vax.
It is a solid idea with potentially positive outcome. As you say - unlikely to happen and if it did there would be people somewhere pedaling lies about the content and the agenda.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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