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He lasted a long time.

Thank you sir !

j/c...

Brad covers the Browns for the OBR and has broken some news. I think this might be interesting to see if he is right.

He also speculates that if D'earnest Johnson gets cut, No No Nation might make the team.

Hodge has been solid for us. However, we are at the point of having to be financially smart too. It appears like our WR room is deep and versatile

I told everybody not to count Jo Jo out. The Browns love his skillset, but at this point it's all a numbers game and we will be forced to let guys go who we would like to keep.

It's too bad for the kid, but it's hard to stick as pretty much a punt returner only..I discount kickoffs for the most part. These days kickoffs are only returned if that is the special teams call.

Making it even harder is when the coach favors 4 tight ends and a fullback on the roster.

Last season we had plays designed just for Jo JO on offense. If he would not have been injured you would have seen him on the field lined up all over the place.

He never impressed me. Higgins is twice the player he is and Higgins is not the most gifted athlete in the world. He just gets open!

He also doesn’t play special teams.

Exactly. That’s a big caveat. Hodge has been a decent player for us all around

I'm not going to lose any sleep over that. Are you? Probably.

The Danger Hodge faces on making the team again is,
Sure he may do special teams, and I like his blocking. But he is a WR. this is the NFL.

They may not want to but they can get somebody, somewhere who can play special teams but, eventually, eventually you have to bring it at the position you play.

They have to cut somebody and the thing about cutting this team is so many players bring special qualities that are hard to replace. What is the special quality about Hodge's game that is hard to find anyone to replace?
I can't think of one that's why I think he's on the bubble by default.

If you count missed catches that end in drives stalled and forced to punt. Over 2 years. I'm fine losing someone who can go to a division rival and argue with their quarterback.

You're coming around Throw. I like it.

No sleep lost. Just stating a point. It’s pretty obvious that Hodge is on the outside looking in.

I have nothing against him.

Fortunately we have adults running the team now to make that decision.

I think Schwartz will probably get those plays now.

Hodge is basically Higgins without the oversized personality and hype. But he's a better athlete and plays special teams.

If Higgins can get us a pick, I'd probably take it and keep Hodge. Without the pick, it's a toss up, but I think Higgins is the more likely to potentially bring us one with the name recognition.

in the 4th preseason game, JoJo missed a Td catch iirc, and they showed coach Kevin on the SL turn to another person, coach type on the sideline and say something to him, to which the 2nd guy started to Shrug as if he didn't know, I just wonder what the question was.

I cant see Jo Jo making the team over Hodge

Maybe so. Something tells me that won't or isn't the case this year.

I think Schwartz gets some of those gadget plays if speed in the primary issue involved.

I think both DPJ and Felton show they have ability in the kicking game.

It's always sad when you see a kids dream of the NFL ending. Especially one you like because he seems to be a good kid.

A lot of good kids will be cut by the Browns tomorrow. But it's great to finally have a team that's good enough to do that.

I’d cut the kicker to get Phillips on the roster then either re-sign the kicker we cut or get a new kicker.

I keep Hodge and make Felton our returner. That dude needs the ball in his hands. Seemed decent as a returner and makes plays when he is on the field.

Natson is just so small, I don't see him lasting too long anyway.

Thinking outside the box ... this makes sense.

We did this a couple years ago with Greg Robinson. I wouldn’t be surprised if we cut someone like Malcolm Smith only to sign him back after the waiver period.

I can't see any way Natson makes the team.

OBJ, Jarvis, DPJ, Higgins, (who has a hamstring, thus did not play) Schwartz, and Hodges. I can't see more than 6, especially with Felton being a 2-way player at RB/WR. I can see 4 RB, with Chubb, Hunt, Johnson, and Felton. We probably keep 3 TE, with Hooper, Njoku, and Bryant making the team, along with one of the FB. (I think that the other will his the PS, and would likely be unclaimed on waivers, and so few teams use a FB) 9 OL, along with the 2 QB, and that should round out the offense. I do think that Harris's spot is in danger, given Hance's ability to play Center. That's 25.

3 specialists, and that's 28.

10 DL, of one shape or another. 5 LB, and 10 DB. I think that Billings is in serious danger of not making the team. I do think we may keep 11 DB and 9 DL, but we'll see.

Based on what we see - Billings should not make the team.

If Natson was on the bubble, I don't see how he made a case to stay in that last PS game. You can't have your jitterbug returner get caught from behind.

He got IR'd due to an ACL last year. I wonder if he's in that "fully healed but not really" stage of his recovery.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see us do that with Malcolm smith or a vet that we think may not be in the game plan against KC as much

Sources say Stefanski asked the assistant coach "Who farted?".

I wish I had come up with that one.

People who can't see any way Natson makes the team.
Case for. How it Could.
(Want/need= enough Wr's for the KC game.)
(unknown to us but known to the team a possibility OBJ needs more time before game action.
( Unknown but known to them, Schwartz needs more development time.) -- both make the team but if the team feels they aren't ready/safe to contribute vs. KC. --
VS. KC they want 4 Wr's ready to go not named Felton.
( Davion Davis is suspended first 2 games)

First 3 wrs', (ready to contribute) are, Landry DPJ, and Higgins. +1 needed.

The numbers by plan dictate waiving both Hodge and Natson with the intent to bring someone back to be ready against KC.
Finally if Hodge gets picked up by another team, then the Bronwns look to bring someone on to play against KC.

At this point, Natson beats out others Jamarcus Bradley, Swtizer, others, on Speed, and versatility, and familiarity.
Then Natson is on the roster against KC, just saying there is a way to see how it would end up happening.