3.7M at the parade. Baker can't get to the stage for speech. Improvises and walks across the tops of fans heads like Mick Dundee in the subway scene. Crowd is euphoric.
I feel we win the AFC North with a 12-5 record. We win a home playoff game and lose in the AFC championship. Mayfield throws for 3900 yds 33 TD and 10 int Chubb has 1300 yds Hunt has 800 yds. We have 3 receivers with at least 7 tds Our D finishes in the top 10 in total defense. MG has 17 sacks and Clowney adds 8 more. We end the year with some one else other than McLaughlin kicking. JMO though.
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You dont have to win every game just the next one!
12-5, go to Super Bowl. Go 4-2 against the North, Chubb/Hunt go for 2,000 on the ground, Baker throws for 3,800 yards, 32 TD passes, eight picks. Myles gets 18 sacks, we’re top four on D in takeaways, Landry and DPJ top 1,000 receiving yards and Bake lifts the Lombardi.
By Dan Labbe, cleveland.com CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The drive from Cleveland to Los Angeles is about 2,344 miles. It takes about 34 hours.
If you’re feeling nostalgic and want to take a slower route, you can still pick up parts of Route 66 starting somewhere in Chicago and go that way.
However you choose to go, it’s a long drive.
The Browns are hoping to make the trip this year and, if they do, their journey will have been longer than any red-eyed, coffee-fueled weekend drive out west: No championships since 1964. No Super Bowl appearances. Plenty of heartbreak.
Now, finally, here the Browns are, with as good a chance as they’ve had since the late 1980s to reach the promised land, and their destination is SoFi Stadium. It’s in Inglewood, Calif., to be exact, but it could be in the North Pole and Browns fans wouldn’t care if it means their team is playing a football game in February.
“We are excited that people are mentioning us the way they are,” Jimmy Haslam said as he and wife Dee held their annual owners media session in July. “But we are also realistic about how much work we have to do and how hard it is to win in the NFL.”
“I promise you, all 32 clubs talk about the Super Bowl,” said Browns coach Kevin Stefanski, the reigning NFL Coach of the Year. “It is really easy to talk about it; it is hard to do. We are just going to focus on the work.”
This is easily the most talented roster the Browns have had since they returned in 1999. It’s arguably the best roster they’ve ever had. In the salary-capped NFL, it might not never be better than it is now, with core players on cost-controlled contracts, allowing for big spending on luxury positions.
In other words, this isn’t Jed Clampett packing up the truck and driving to Beverly Hills. The Browns are driving a sports car.
How they got this car dates back to 2016, when Jimmy Haslam put Sashi Brown in charge and hired Paul DePodesta. Brown used his short time as general manager to rebuild the team’s credit, tearing it down to the studs. Draft assets were acquired and the Browns went 1-31 over two seasons. Brown was never quite able to pull the trigger on buying the right car.
So John Dorsey came in and bought the most supercharged car he could find, adding top-end talent across the board, including quarterback Baker Mayfield, running back Nick Chubb, cornerback Denzel Ward, receiver Odell Beckham Jr. and running back Kareem Hunt. His fingerprints are all over this roster.
Dorsey, however, couldn’t tab the right driver, so the keys were handed to GM Andrew Berry and Stefanski to tow the car out of a 6-10 ditch and get it back on the road. They did, Stefanski bringing smart coaching, organization and a culture while Berry did the fine-tuning, making some key repairs.
The road to LA isn’t easy. It’s littered with teams with high expectations and the best intentions who failed to get there -- derailed by injury, suffered from poor execution or just weren’t as good as thought. The car looked nice, but under the hood, things were a mess.
The Browns shouldn’t be plagued by the latter two. Stefanski has risen quickly into the ranks of the league’s best young coaches, and his connection with Mayfield is the reason the offense has room to grow beyond what it did a season ago.
Under the hood, this roster is as good as we think.
The offensive line is among the NFL’s best and the offensive weapons are dangerous. Chubb was signed to an extension, Beckham has come back strong from knee surgery and receiver Donovan Peoples-Jones appears to be on the verge of a breakout in his second NFL season.
The defense is much improved, with as many as nine new players who will see the field in the Sept. 12 opener at Kansas City. Among those, Berry brought in veterans John Johnson III at safety and Anthony Walker Jr. at linebacker to organize the back of the defense, and drafted cornerback Greg Newsome II to start opposite Ward and shore up a critical position. He also signed former All-Pro Jadeveon Clowney to join Myles Garrett as a top-tier pass rusher off the edge.
When Stefanski tosses Mayfield the keys, everything in the car has been built to suit him as he navigates this road.
There will certainly be challenges along the route. The Browns have formidable opponents to deal with, whether it’s Kansas City in Week 1 or two matchups with Baltimore. Both those teams are likely to be a factor in the playoffs, as will Buffalo.
There are up-and-comers, like the Chargers, whom the Browns play at the site of the Super Bowl, and Miami. There are stalwarts like Pittsburgh, looking to hang on at least one more year, or New England, which remade its offense and brings back a number of key defenders.
Somewhere along the way, there will be wrong turns -- an injury to a key player, a bad bounce or a flat performance by the team -- something that feels inevitable in what will be a 17-game regular season, the longest in NFL history.
“We have expectations just like everybody else,” said Garrett, a favorite for NFL Defensive Player of the Year. “Everybody goes into the season wanting to win every game they play. Everybody goes into the season wanting to win the championship. That is everybody’s expectation of themselves.
“What you do day by day from training camp to the last day of the regular season is what defines you. We are just going to work every day as if it is our last and let the chips fall where they may.”
“Honestly,” Berry said, “as long as our guys are working out with our staff, really focusing on what they can control and improving every day, I think we will look up and we will be in a really good spot. I think we have the right individuals in this locker room. I know that we have the right individuals on the sideline.
“All we are going to do is put our head down and work, and we will figure it out from there.”
Still, for the first time in more than 30 years, the Browns can point their car toward the Super Bowl and believe it can get them all the way there.
Just like any good road trip, you can’t rush it. You’ll reach the end point when it’s time.
Until then, keep your eyes on the road, don’t stray off the map and take some time to enjoy the ride.
I’m going to go with my usual sober route and undershoot all this hype. The odds are actually not in our favor but I think we still have a solid season and playoffs.
10-7 & lose in the division round.
Baker: 3200yds, 26td 18int, Chubb & Hunt combine for 2500yds. I predict we lose Clowney and Ward for large chunks of the season as well as either Chubb or Hunt and an OL starter.
"Team Chemistry No Match for Team Biology" (Onion Sports Headline)
I assume a few forgot the Browns have yet to try out their new toys on defense! I predict we have a few hiccups in the first four weeks. About week 6, barring any major injuries, I foresee this team starts to look as expected.
I am not buying into the hype Steelers are washed up. Ben's elbow wasn't 100% to take on a full season. I expect he is fully healed now.
I fully expect the Steelers, Ravens, and Browns to split wins. The team that loses to the Bengals will miss the playoffs. Bengals are better than many predict.
With that said, I think the Browns win 12 or 13 and win the AFCN.
Many NFL analysts will say the AFCN is weak but it will represent the AFC side in the Super Bowl!
This year Browns are back in the fight for the AFCN title. We get to see the real AFCN battles. Browns fans can become obnoxious again giving back to all who dished out over the years so don't hold back!!! GO BROWNS!
I assume a few forgot the Browns have yet to try out their new toys on defense! I predict we have a few hiccups in the first four weeks. About week 6, barring any major injuries, I foresee this team starts to look as expected.
I am not buying into the hype Steelers are washed up. Ben's elbow wasn't 100% to take on a full season. I expect he is fully healed now.
I fully expect the Steelers, Ravens, and Browns to split wins. The team that loses to the Bengals will miss the playoffs. Bengals are better than many predict.
With that said, I think the Browns win 12 or 13 and win the AFCN.
Many NFL analysts will say the AFCN is weak but it will represent the AFC side in the Super Bowl!
This year Browns are back in the fight for the AFCN title. We get to see the real AFCN battles. Browns fans can become obnoxious again giving back to all who dished out over the years so don't hold back!!! GO BROWNS!
Any division that sends 3 teams to the playoffs the year before cannot be called weak. Just ask the NFC East who was the victim last year.
You didn't even mention Njoku. He is year older, more mature, more physically developed, he's a BEAST. He's not second string, JMHO, we could cut Hooper and keep other guys and not miss much.
Some predictions show us winning 12, 13, 14 games...scares me. You never know about injuries, covid, other problems...my hope and expectations are playoffs and then see what happens...GO Browns!!!!
"You've never lived till you've almost died, life has a flavor the protected will never know" A vet or cop
At Kansas City - LOSS Houston - WIN Chicago - WIN At Minnesota - LOSS At LA Chargers - LOSS Arizona - WIN Denver - WIN Pittsburgh - LOSS At Cincinnati - WIN At New England - LOSS Detroit - WIN At Baltimore - LOSS Baltimore - WIN Las Vegas - WIN At Green Bay - LOSS At Pittsburgh - LOSS Cincinnati - WIN
9-8 Record. Our 50/50 road games are very tough this year (at LAC, at MIN, at NE … not to mention at KC, at GB, at BAL, and at PIT)
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
You didn't even mention Njoku. He is year older, more mature, more physically developed, he's a BEAST. He's not second string, JMHO, we could cut Hooper and keep other guys and not miss much.
Agreed (not so sure about the Hooper thought, though.)
If he can stay healthy, I expect very big numbers from Njoku this season. We'll need the beginnings of that in the first 7 or 8 games, imo.
When teams are forced to specifically game plan for him......well, we have a bunch of answers for that as well.
At Kansas City - LOSS Houston - WIN Chicago - WIN At Minnesota - LOSS At LA Chargers - LOSS Arizona - WIN Denver - WIN Pittsburgh - LOSS At Cincinnati - WIN At New England - LOSS Detroit - WIN At Baltimore - LOSS Baltimore - WIN Las Vegas - WIN At Green Bay - LOSS At Pittsburgh - LOSS Cincinnati - WIN
9-8 Record. Our 50/50 road games are very tough this year (at LAC, at MIN, at NE … not to mention at KC, at GB, at BAL, and at PIT)
We surprise ourselves and really roll some teams. Lose to KC first game, but get revenge later in the playoffs. Learn from opener loss, win when it counts.
Go 12 and 5. Win AFC. Win SB with help and luck. All bets are off if we get injury prone. Berea injuries seem to be season-ending.
Might as well just win the whole dinged thang.
"Every responsibility implies opportunity, and every opportunity implies responsibility." Otis Allen Glazebrook, 1880
If I’m wrong I’ll gladly eat crow. I personally think the Vikings, chargers, Patriots, etc are way tougher games than some others do
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Agree, EVERY NFL game is a crap shot. Might not be fact, but I remember Blanton Collier saying...On any give Sunday..referencing any team can win the game.....I truly believe that. Not many teams are non competitive- I think Texans will stink, but if any team thinks they've won the game before playing....watch out.
I think we'll make playoffs....hopefully. Go Browns!!!
"You've never lived till you've almost died, life has a flavor the protected will never know" A vet or cop
Seriously.. everyone has a right to their opinion but I honestly can't see how so called Browns fans can look at this rosters and say 8-9.. I wouldn't bother watching if that was my mindset
The Views Expressed By Me Are Not Necessarily The Views That You Will Agree With, I'm In My Own Little World But They Know Me Here.
At Kansas City - LOSS Houston - WIN Chicago - WIN At Minnesota - LOSS At LA Chargers - LOSS Arizona - WIN Denver - WIN Pittsburgh - LOSS At Cincinnati - WIN At New England - LOSS Detroit - WIN At Baltimore - LOSS Baltimore - WIN Las Vegas - WIN At Green Bay - LOSS At Pittsburgh - LOSS Cincinnati - WIN
9-8 Record. Our 50/50 road games are very tough this year (at LAC, at MIN, at NE … not to mention at KC, at GB, at BAL, and at PIT)
I said 10-7 so I’m a lot closer to you than the 14-3 & 15-2 predictions. I also see tough games in many that other folks see as gimme’s . I think statistically speaking it’s much more likely we trend toward .500 than 1.0. I want to be wrong but if I were a betting man….
"Team Chemistry No Match for Team Biology" (Onion Sports Headline)
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
I think many expect Herbert to take a step back in his 2nd year. Vikings and Patriots might not scare me enough.... we'll find out if that Patriots defense comes back as scary as they should.
I don't follow them, so maybe my info is bad or old, but I thought Denver was a bit of a dumpster fire these days (?).
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
I think many expect Herbert to take a step back in his 2nd year. Vikings and Patriots might not scare me enough.... we'll find out if that Patriots defense comes back as scary as they should.
I don't follow them, so maybe my info is bad or old, but I thought Denver was a bit of a dumpster fire these days (?).
It's amazing to me how much ELWAY, of all people, has struck out on finding a franchise QB.
I don't follow them, so maybe my info is bad or old, but I thought Denver was a bit of a dumpster fire these days (?).
They have a top 3 defense. Pair that with a Bridgewater management at QB, and they can abosultely win games that they come out on top in the TO battle.
CLEVELAND, Ohio – Here’s what already happened. You read the headline of this piece, thought to yourself, “Oh goodness, Hayden is giving his official prediction that the Browns will win the Super Bowl,” and you’re here to confirm that notion.
Right?
Well, I’m here to burst your bubble. That is not at all my intention in writing this piece.
Let’s address it right now.
Can the Browns win the Super Bowl? Yes.
Will the Browns win the Super Bowl? Well, that’s a little bit up to them, a little bit up to fate.
Now, let’s address my real point: the 2021 Browns give Cleveland its best shot to win a Super Bowl.
That doesn’t mean they will and it doesn’t mean they won’t. It simply means, as stated, this current Browns team is Cleveland’s best shot to bring a Lombardi Trophy to Northeast Ohio.
Of course, the future is an unknown and we will certainly address that, but here’s what we do know about the 2021 Browns.
For the first time in my memory, and probably yours too, the Browns are bringing back their entire core coaching staff from the year prior.
They’re bringing back the reigning NFL Coach of the Year in Kevin Stefanski, they’re bringing back offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt, defensive coordinator Joe Woods, offensive line coach Bill Callahan, receivers coach Chad O’Shea, running backs coach Stump Mitchell, etc.
The continuity and familiarity within Cleveland’s coaching staff is an absolute rarity and something unlikely to be duplicated any time soon.
That continuity makes the communication so much better and with good communication comes good preparation and good relationships.
The Browns also return their entire starting offense from a year ago, which includes their franchise quarterback, Baker Mayfield.
Mayfield is coming off his best season in the NFL with a better-than 3:1 touchdown to interception ratio, over 3,500 yards through the air and a career-high 95.9 QB rating.
It’s been well-documented over his three years in Cleveland that Mayfield has been through four head coaches and multiple offensive coordinators. The same can be said going back to his college days in Oklahoma, when Lincoln Reilly took over for Bob Stoops as the head coach before Mayfield’s final season.
Never has Mayfield returned to the same head coach, the same offensive coordinator and the same starting offense … until now.
With the entire offense and coaching staff back, plus a year of experience in a system suited for his strengths, Mayfield is poised for his biggest season yet.
Furthermore, the weapons surrounding Mayfield for another year are second-to-none.
Cleveland’s offensive line, featuring Jedrick Wills, Joel Bitonio, JC Tretter, Wyatt Teller and Jack Conklin, is widely regarded as one of the best, if not the best, units in the NFL. They’ll again protect Mayfield and pave the way for Nick Chubb, who rushed for over 1,000 yards in just 12 games a year ago, and Kareem Hunt, who wasn’t far behind with over 800 rushing yards.
Then comes a deep receiving unit that brings back a rested, recovered, rejuvenated and ready Odell Beckham Jr.; a team leader and reliable weapon who caught 72 passes for 840 yards last year in Jarvis Landry; Donovan Peoples-Jones, who was perhaps Cleveland’s best player in camp; and Rashard “Hollywood” Higgins, who Mayfield has developed quite a chemistry with over their years in Cleveland.
It’s well-documented Mayfield loves his tight ends and, yes, Austin Hooper, David Njoku and Harrison Bryant are all back and at his disposal in the red zone and beyond.
Add to all that a do-it-all rookie in Demetric Felton and the Browns offense is set to be one of the best in the NFL.
It’s hard to imagine this will ever happen again for the Browns -- that they’ll bring back the exact same, talent-filled unit for another year.
Teller, Njoku and Higgins are set to be free agents in 2022 and there are always questions about Beckham’s future in Cleveland. Coaches come and go and any of the Browns assistants could move on to other jobs.
Who knows what the future holds, but the talent and continuity should make the offense very, very, for lack of a better term, dangerous.
Defensively, the coaches are the same, but most of the roster is completely different from the 2020 season, which is exactly what was needed.
After the defense struggled mightily at times, Cleveland will likely be using nine new starters, some of which may only be around for the short term. Eight Browns defenders are on one-year deals, including some big-time contributors such as Jadeveon Clowney, Anthony Walker Jr., Takkarist McKinley, Malik Jackson and Malcolm Smith.
While McKinley, Jackson and Smith are surely replaceable in the future, Clowney and Walker Jr. are rare commodities in the NFL and each could be in line for a big pay day elsewhere in 2022.
This will very likely be the only time Cleveland is equipped with two former No. 1 overall selections -- Clowney and Myles Garrett-- bookmarking their defensive line and rushing the quarterback together. It may also be the only year a young, cerebral, athletic linebacker like Walker leads this talented defense, featuring some of the league’s best at their position in Garrett, Denzel Ward and John Johnson III.
When looking at the Browns on paper, the talent is there, the continuity is there, the maturation is there, the experience is there and the leadership is there.
Certainly, it’s about putting each of those traits together on the field, but it appears this Browns team has its priorities in order. They go about their business in a professional, detail-oriented way. They’re not talking the way they have in years prior about just how good they might be, choosing instead to let the work and the on-field product do the talking.
They’re entering the season extremely healthy, after spending camp appropriately dictating how much certain players would see the field with an extra regular season game on the schedule.
Most importantly, from GM Andrew Berry to Stefanski to the last player on the practice squad, they seem to have a collective mindset focused on nothing more than working and winning.
Fans have high expectations for the Browns, but there are still plenty of memories that haunt them and won’t allow them to believe in this team the way they should.
Those memories should have been erased the minute the ball traveled over Ben Roethlisberger’s head and into the end zone at Heinz Field and a new era of Browns football began.
Last year’s team was good, but this year’s team should be better in nearly every facet (maybe minus the kicking situation).
There’s no reason they can’t beat the Chiefs and/or the Bills or any other team on their way to their first Super Bowl appearance. There’s no reason they can’t beat any NFC team they face in Los Angeles and bring home the Lombardi Trophy to a sea of overjoyed, overwhelmed Browns fans.
It’s OK to dream about what would be the most incredible Super Bowl parade this country has ever seen, because this is the most capable Browns team in franchise history of accomplishing that feat.
Sure, Cleveland’s core players are under contract for at least a couple more years, which means they should continue to be Super Bowl contenders, but there’s no guarantee on what can happen from year to year.
That’s exactly why this Browns team is Cleveland’s best chance to bring home a Super Bowl.
JMHO, you hit most of the highlights/ possible highlights, but missed one....Anthony Schwartz, our own bullet. He could/ should help field position returning kickoffs AND scare DBs. I'm on Brady's bandwagon when he stated, "Covid" will be a huge part of the season...ie Chiefs all-pro safety might miss game. Availability is another key to a successful season....GO Browns
"You've never lived till you've almost died, life has a flavor the protected will never know" A vet or cop
It's hard to really tell what a teams record will be. You certainly can't account for how healthy not only your team will remain, when or where injuries will occur, but you can't tell that same thing about the opponents you will be facing when the time comes to play them. So in order to get it right takes far more luck than skill.
I'm going with 11-6.
It could be better and it could be worse. Only time will tell but this is by far the best I've felt about a Browns team going into the season in my time of being an adult fan.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
At Kansas City - LOSS Houston - WIN Chicago - WIN At Minnesota - WIN At LA Chargers - LOSS Arizona - WIN Denver - WIN Pittsburgh - WIN At Cincinnati - WIN At New England - WIN Detroit - WIN At Baltimore - LOSS Baltimore - WIN Las Vegas - WIN At Green Bay - LOSS At Pittsburgh - WIN Cincinnati - WIN
13-4
They will sweep the Steelers and Bengals. Split with the Ravens. Will win the AFC North by one game. 1) Browns (Division Champs)13-4 2) Ravens 12-5 3) Steelers 10-7 4) Bengals 4-13
At Kansas City - WIN Houston - WIN Chicago - WIN At Minnesota - WIN At LA Chargers - WIN Arizona - WIN Denver - WIN Pittsburgh - WIN At Cincinnati - WIN At New England - WIN Detroit - WIN At Baltimore - LOSS Baltimore - WIN Las Vegas - WIN At Green Bay - LOSS At Pittsburgh - WIN Cincinnati - WIN
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Browns Fans ALL of us are at various stages of coming to the FACT that we should win it all.
This team is stacked, not perfect and for sure like every other team something could happen that side rails the season, but if your not feeling it you should take up crochet or some other pastime.
We can continue to suffer with battered Browns fan syndrome or we can just climb on the wagon and enjoy what should be the ultimate season.
Stop looking for what can go wrong and start embracing what is likely to go right.
The odds aren't stacked against us the odds are stacked in our favor get used to it.
BTTB
AKA Upbeat Dawg
Can't believe I am in a group that is comprised of the best NOT just fans but people on the planet.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
I was 14 when the browns lost to the Steelers 29-9 in the playoffs. I told my best friend that it was ok. That we are young,and that we will see the browns win a superbowl. Well we are both 41 now. Admittedly I was starting to get a little worried. However, its finally time, time for the comeback team from the comeback town to put it all together again. Its time....for our Cleveland browns to become SUPERBOWL CHAMPIONS....AT LAST
" Now here you are running these dirty old streets tattoo on your neck fake gold on your teeth, got the hood here snowed but you can't fool me, we both know who you are"
The team looks very good on paper. It looked very good in meaningless preseason games.
The key issue is and always will be injuries: when they happen, to whom they happen and how bad they are. Following that, of course, is how well the “next man up” performs.
I can see anywhere from 10-7 to 14-3.
As for the Super Bowl? No prediction. Make the playoffs first and be healthy at that time.
So we sweep our 2 biggest division competitors, and I assume you're giving us at least 1 Bengals game? To get to 11-6 from there, you have us 6-5 in our non-division contests? I guess anything is possible at this point, but that would be a really odd way to get to 11-6.
I can easily see us losing 5 games outside of the division:
KC LAC MIN NE LV GB
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Haha yeah i mean it’s unlikely, but you never know
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
I believe that you and B2TB may be twin brothers who were separated at birth.
Bone and I really do think a lot alike when it comes to football and this team especially, and I happen to think Bone is a really nice man as well, so while I suspect you meant it as some sort of insult I am happy to have the comparison.
For sure we are the veteran leadership this board really needs.................
Part of that leadership is to inform some people that they need to know when to be happy, and to STOP believing that something bad will always happen. That there are few things in this world that are perfect and it's OK to follow your heart...........................
Having said that you remind me a great deal of Throw Long..........JK
I truly am sorry Throw.................
BTTB
AKA Upbeat Dawg
Can't believe I am in a group that is comprised of the best NOT just fans but people on the planet.
No, I didn't mean it as an insult. There's not a thing wrong with blind positivity as long as you understand that everyone who doesn't align 100% with your viewpoint doesn't have something wrong with them.
Even your twin doesn't do that.
I think you'll learn in time that just because I may disagree with you on one thing, doesn't mean I disagree with you about everything. I compartmentalize each topic as a separate issue.
I actually enjoy seeing the positivity. I share in a great deal of it myself. I mean I predicted 11 wins and I certainly don't think that sounds negative.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
I actually enjoy seeing the positivity. I share in a great deal of it myself. I mean I predicted 11 wins and I certainly don't think that sounds negative.
It should have been 12.................
Enjoy Pitt if ever there was a time to just enjoy this is it.
After the game and the season there will be plenty of time to compare notes and discus now is the time to just enjoy. Let the games begin.
BTTB
AKA Upbeat Dawg
Can't believe I am in a group that is comprised of the best NOT just fans but people on the planet.
I've actually considered changing it to 12 since Marcus Peters is out for the season. That's a huge blow to their secondary and we finally have a HC/QB combination who can exploit such a weakness.
I've been on this board too many seasons where fans were being overly positive without reason to be. That's no longer the case and I'm sure us, as well as every Browns fan are glad those years are behind us.
I get it.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
17 weeks is a long time so I will divide our season into 4 quarters and a extra time. Our initial goal must be to start our first four games with more wins then losses. 3-1 would be a great start.
Our next goal must be to beat our closest rivals. Lamar and his gang is still the team to beat in our division. If we end up with more wins then the Ravens then we are in a good place.
My mindset will game by game, snap by snap. Don’t go ahead of ourselves.
If we can manage to win more games them last season, then I’m happy. If we can advance to a conference final then it’s a success. The rest is a bonus.
As a Brown supporter I will enjoy the ride and take what comes with a smile. Hopefully a big smile.
I've actually considered changing it to 12 since Marcus Peters is out for the season. That's a huge blow to their secondary and we finally have a HC/QB combination who can exploit such a weakness.
I've been on this board too many seasons where fans were being overly positive without reason to be. That's no longer the case and I'm sure us, as well as every Browns fan are glad those years are behind us.
I get it.
Exactly Pitt, exactly.
I like this way more then I did the 0-16, 1-15, 6-10 gig we never seemed to be able to dig ourselves out of. I want perfection as much as the next guy but reason says I will have to make due and try to be happy.
The fun is the struggle, so I take it all gladly just don't ask me to live thru the past 20+ years again. I am happy because I know it's going to be fun and that I can be proud of my team and that we have a better chance at the Lombardi I think then we may ever have...
Browns fans should be the happiest fans in the country right now after all we have been thru. So enjoy be a fan Ski and Company got this..... Put on your number 12 and be the very best #12.
BTTB
AKA Upbeat Dawg
Can't believe I am in a group that is comprised of the best NOT just fans but people on the planet.
I think many expect Herbert to take a step back in his 2nd year. Vikings and Patriots might not scare me enough.... we'll find out if that Patriots defense comes back as scary as they should.
I don't follow them, so maybe my info is bad or old, but I thought Denver was a bit of a dumpster fire these days (?).
It's amazing to me how much ELWAY, of all people, has struck out on finding a franchise QB.
Eh, not me. Talent evaluation is very hard. Running a franchise is very hard. Michael Jordan sucked at it.
I said going back several months that Njoku would have a breakout season, so today is the beginning of his ascent.
I also think JOK will have a monster game on the defense. He will be sort of 1 dimensional player, but as the season rolls on he will become a monster player for us all over the field.
Time for the party to begin. Game 1 KC let's get this done.
BTTB
AKA Upbeat Dawg
Can't believe I am in a group that is comprised of the best NOT just fans but people on the planet.
yeah I'm looking at 12 plus wins this year. We will win our division! Our D will be top 5. Baker will have OVER 40 tds and under 10 Ints. Our RBs Chubb and Hunt will combine for over 2,000 yards.
Garret will lead the nfl in sacks I finally get my SB...need to get strong cause want to stay on this earth for more!
Defense wins championships. Watson play your butt off! Go Browns! CHRIST HAS RISEN! GM Strong! & Stay safe everyone!
It's going to take 44 points to beat the chiefs. I think the Browns can hold them to 43.
24 points per half, 52 on a given game, That should be the aim of the Browns collectively all year long.
Except if the Offense is running down game clock, at those times the Browns Defense is going to have to aim to get the points from takeaways that return into the end zone.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
Well, we held them to 22 points just eight months ago with a MUCH, MUCH worse pass rush and secondary, in a game with a LOT more on the line.... so, I totally get where you pulled the 43 from.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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