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WATCH – California Recall: Polling Center Tells Some Republicans They ‘Already Voted’

Paul Bois

13 Sep 2021


Some self-identified Republicans claim they arrived at their polling center to cast their ballots in the California recall election only to be told they had “already voted.”

“At El Camino Real Charter High School in Woodland Hills, some voters say they were told the computers showed them as already having voted, even though they had not,” reported KTLA.

Estelle Bender, 88, said poll workers informed her she and several friends of hers had already voted. She also allegedly witness another man arguing with a poll worker over the same issue.

“What happened today and how shocked are you?” a reporter asked Bender.

“Very. I went to El Camino High School to vote. Got there at 10:30. Gave her this [ballot] and she scanned and said ‘you voted,’ and I said, ‘no, I haven’t,” Bender told KTLA.

California Gubernatorial Recall Election information guides are placed inside the Monterey County Elections office in Salinas, Calif., on Thursday, Aug. 12, 2021. ( David Rodriguez/The Salinas Californian via Imagn Content Services)

“She said this has been happening all morning,” Bender further alleged. “The man next to me was arguing the same thing,”

Bender filled out a provisional ballot and left feeling “really angry.”

“I saw two women walking toward me as I left and I said, ‘don’t be surprised if they tell you’ve already voted, and she said, ‘They’ve already done that. If I voted, how did I vote?”

According to Bender, the people she knew affected by the issue were “self-identified Republicans,” which gave her cause for suspicion.

“I asked the couple of young women that I talked to and I said, ‘Are you by any chance Republicans?’ And she said ‘yes’ and I said, ‘So am I,'” asserted Bender.

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The Los Angeles County Registrar-Recorder’s office said equipment was “replaced” at the polling center and that provisional ballots are a “failsafe option” for these kinds of glitches.”

“The voters who experienced this issue were offered and provided provisional ballots – the failsafe option to ensure no one has turned away from voting,” the statement said.

“Provisional ballots are regular ballots and once the eligibility of the voter is verified, they are processed and counted. After troubleshooting the issue, the equipment at the locations was replaced and voting continued.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/...-already-voted/

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LMAO sore losers looking for excuses BEFORE the election. Donny really did a number on y'all.

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WATCH – California Recall: Polling Center Tells Some Republicans They ‘Already Voted’

Paul Bois

13 Sep 2021


Some self-identified Republicans claim they arrived at their polling center to cast their ballots in the California recall election only to be told they had “already voted.”

“At El Camino Real Charter High School in Woodland Hills, some voters say they were told the computers showed them as already having voted, even though they had not,” reported KTLA.

Estelle Bender, 88, said poll workers informed her she and several friends of hers had already voted. She also allegedly witness another man arguing with a poll worker over the same issue.

“What happened today and how shocked are you?” a reporter asked Bender.

“Very. I went to El Camino High School to vote. Got there at 10:30. Gave her this [ballot] and she scanned and said ‘you voted,’ and I said, ‘no, I haven’t,” Bender told KTLA.

California Gubernatorial Recall Election information guides are placed inside the Monterey County Elections office in Salinas, Calif., on Thursday, Aug. 12, 2021. ( David Rodriguez/The Salinas Californian via Imagn Content Services)

“She said this has been happening all morning,” Bender further alleged. “The man next to me was arguing the same thing,”

Bender filled out a provisional ballot and left feeling “really angry.”

“I saw two women walking toward me as I left and I said, ‘don’t be surprised if they tell you’ve already voted, and she said, ‘They’ve already done that. If I voted, how did I vote?”

According to Bender, the people she knew affected by the issue were “self-identified Republicans,” which gave her cause for suspicion.

“I asked the couple of young women that I talked to and I said, ‘Are you by any chance Republicans?’ And she said ‘yes’ and I said, ‘So am I,'” asserted Bender.

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The Los Angeles County Registrar-Recorder’s office said equipment was “replaced” at the polling center and that provisional ballots are a “failsafe option” for these kinds of glitches.”

“The voters who experienced this issue were offered and provided provisional ballots – the failsafe option to ensure no one has turned away from voting,” the statement said.

“Provisional ballots are regular ballots and once the eligibility of the voter is verified, they are processed and counted. After troubleshooting the issue, the equipment at the locations was replaced and voting continued.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/...-already-voted/


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Republicans trying to vote twice. It's like the 2020 election all over again.


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You have to sign the ballot envelope when you turn it in. If you do not turn it in personally, there is another signature for you and the designated returner.

There is a barcode for tracking purposes.

You can sign up to a county website that tells you your ballot has been received and counted. If there is a question, they can pull the ballot and envelope.

I guess you could show up and try to vote twice, but if you have voted, it would be in the system.

My vote has been recorded.


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Oh, my.
You used facts in your post.

Those things are useless here.


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no way in hell would the Dems let Elder win. Even though they'll probably win without cheating but just to be safe they'll cheat. At least they will get the Govt they deserve.

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rofl

Still trying to paint that false narrative nobody yet has proven. Some of ya'll are so funny!


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Originally Posted By: Dawg Duty
no way in hell would the Dems let Elder win. Even though they'll probably win without cheating but just to be safe they'll cheat. At least they will get the Govt they deserve.



Every damn time a GOPer accuses a dem of cheating it just means they are actively cheating, or they were trying to cheat but failed. Trump taught them that trick.

Elder is a joke. The whole recall is a partisan hitjob and y'all in here like "the government they deserve". If GOPers don't like living in a free society like Cali, they should dig up one of those bright red maps they are so proud of and move to BFE with the rest of the Clampetts.

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Every commercial for Elder is a thousand votes for Newsom.

Elder is playing to the GOP base and has motivated the democrats.

He is not a serious candidate and a Trump wannabe.

That dog does not hunt in California..

Arnold has been mute or lukewarm on the recall…


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I dunno if it was on here, but a CA GOP person called Elder "the best thing to happen to Newsom since hair gel". It's hilarious because it's true.

Elder becoming the face of the recall galvanized the liberal majority in CA. Now the recall doesn't have a prayer.

Also, Newsom is basically a walking caricature. He's what Republicans say every Democrat is like. An Elder governorship sounds scary on the surface, but he wouldn't have been able to actually get anything done.


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Not the liberal majority, Elder managed to galvanize the moderates.

I agree that Newsom is his own worst caricature… A Flaming liberal rich snooty San Francisco Democrat. A male version of Nancy Pelosi.

Still better than a Trump wannabe.


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Sucks that those are the choices.

Out of curiosity, since I don't have any pulse on California stuff, how do you feel a Kinzinger-esque Republican would have fared in the recall?


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I think one would have to consider what Republicans are looking for. In this case, there are actually 46 candidates who qualify to vote for with which voters can choose other than Newsom. I'm pretty sure at least one of them is a moderate Republican. But it's Elder who leads all those candidates in the polls outside of Newsom by a wide margin. So I think the fact there are 46 candidates running in opposition to Newsom and it's a "Trump like" candidate that leads by a wide margin answers your question. But I could be wrong.

It's a pretty whacked out way to run a recall election. You see, if the majority votes for a recall, then which ever of these other 46 candidates gets the most votes wins. They could only receive 10% of the vote and still be the next governor.

The way it works is voters are asked, Should Newsom be removed from office, yes or no, and who should replace him? If a majority votes yes on Newsom’s removal, the candidate who gets the most votes on the second question would become governor for the final year of Newsom’s term.

EXPLAINER: If Newsom recall fails, no winning candidate

https://apnews.com/article/business-elec...5658c81b35034c0


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I agree with you that it's significant that Elder has emerged as the GOP front-runner (if it gets to that). IMO, though... that only brings up more questions than it answers.

And I agree with you that the recall process in CA doesn't really hold up to any sort of scrutiny. But then how do you reconcile that argument with Newsom telling his voters to vote 'no' on the recall AND THEN NOT PUT DOWN AN ANSWER TO THE SECOND QUESTION? With Democrats being the majority that they are in CA, and 'their guy' telling them to not vote if the recall goes through, how would they have a leg to stand on if a new governor is selected with such a small % of the vote?


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I never accused Newsom of being a deep thinker. Or even a good governor. wink


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Thanks. I had honestly very little understanding of the process. That kind of speaks to some speculation I had about the shift in Republican ideology on a grand scale. It seems like a Catch-22 in some cases where you can only get the party nomination by being Trump-affiliated, but then you can't win the general election for those same reasons.

I know California is not representative of the country as a whole, but I could see that being an issue for the Republicans on a grander scale in areas where there are more moderate or independent voters.


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Actually I think the political division within our nation makes every state comparable in some ways. It's an all or nothing proposition.

Each party seems to be catering more and more to the extreme wings of their party. It leaves no place to turn for people that believe that moderation, negotiation and finding some middle ground is the best way for our nation to move forward. I find it quite sad.


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Originally Posted By: dawglover05
I know California is not representative of the country as a whole, but I could see that being an issue for the Republicans on a grander scale in areas where there are more moderate or independent voters.


It will be interesting to follow. About a week ago a dem won in a red area in NH for a state seat in a special election.

NH Dems Surprise Victory in Bedford — Special Election Fluke or 2022 Omen?
Posted to Politics September 07, 2021 by Michael Graham

New Hampshire Democrats scored a much-needed upset win in the one-time GOP stronghold of Bedford, flipping a state House seat from red to blue in a special election Tuesday.

Former Bedford Town Councilor Catherine Rombeau defeated Republican former state Rep. Linda Rea Camarota in the race to fill a seat left vacant by the death of Republican Rep. David Danielson.

While the race was extremely close — 2,325 to 2,288 — Bedford has traditionally been a Republican-leaning community where Democrats shouldn’t be competitive. Last fall, Danielson received 6,890 votes and won a House seat, while Rombeau failed to make the cut with 5,488 votes. Only one Democrat, Rep. Sue Mullen, won a House seat in Bedford.....

GOP expectations were even higher in a special election when low turnout tends to help Republicans, and during a time when the Democratic Party’s poll numbers are low. President Joe Biden is underwater by 11 percent among New Hampshire voters.

And yet Rombeau got the win.....

While no Granite State Republicans were willing to talk on the record, off the record they were seething. If Republicans can’t win GOP towns like Bedford, their already razor-thin majority (208-187) could be at risk.

“It’s inexcusable,” one senior GOP source told NHJournal. “It looks like we got outworked–again. I’m really pissed.”

Another insider who worked on behalf of Camarota said Republicans “have no idea what Democrats are doing to drive this turnout.”....

Former NH Democratic Party chair Kathy Sullivan thinks she knows what happened.

“Is this 1st time in history that Bedford has had 2 Dem state reps? Rejection of extremist NHGOP by suburban voters,” she tweeted.

Full article:
https://nhjournal.com/is-nh-dems-surprise-victory-in-bedford-a-special-election-fluke-or-2022-omen/

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Originally Posted By: dawglover05
Sucks that those are the choices.

Out of curiosity, since I don't have any pulse on California stuff, how do you feel a Kinzinger-esque Republican would have fared in the recall?


There are a few of them, including a former San Diego Mayor Kevin Falconer who is polling at 3 percent.

It takes a lot of money to run in the State, and Elder has it. The only other candidate that has advertised is a person named John Cox, who lost to Newsom in the last election.

The voter information pamphlet for the 46 candidates was surreal. Lots of crazies running.

Republicans have drifted to Elder and funded him. He makes no sense and is just an angry person spewing a word salad that may be entertaining for a radio show, but has no place in governors office.


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I never accused Newsom of being a deep thinker. Or even a good governor. wink



Newsome was a very popular Lt. Governor. And other than issues with covid and the red meat right haters, as far as I know he's been a popular Governor. This whole recall was triggered by the nutjob right that represents Cali GOPers in the post Trump era. You would be hard pressed to find a moderate republican leading the charge on this one.

But here we are watching yet another partisan GOPer attack on state level politics without a bit of shame. The left just sits and watches it all unfold and said very little UNTIL a Trumpian candidate became the primary opponent. Now the left is scrambling to get out the vote and coming together... GOPers will most likely lose this recall outright, but they still get to embarrass Newsome AND distract from January 6th and other unresolved Trumpian crimes.

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I don't know enough about Newsom to have said anything in either direction. California politics has never really been a something I've concerned myself with and doesn't really rate on my priority list. Thus my comment.


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I never accused Newsom of being a deep thinker. Or even a good governor. wink

Lol, fair enough. I'll just leave that comment there, but I don't expect you to argue for him.


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Thanks for sharing. How could they have no idea??? Democrats are simply not cannibalizing themselves, or at least not doing it to the same level as Republicans are right now.


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Originally Posted By: dawglover05
I know California is not representative of the country as a whole, but I could see that being an issue for the Republicans on a grander scale in areas where there are more moderate or independent voters.


It will be interesting to follow. About a week ago a dem won in a red area in NH for a state seat in a special election.

NH Dems Surprise Victory in Bedford — Special Election Fluke or 2022 Omen?
Posted to Politics September 07, 2021 by Michael Graham

New Hampshire Democrats scored a much-needed upset win in the one-time GOP stronghold of Bedford, flipping a state House seat from red to blue in a special election Tuesday.

Former Bedford Town Councilor Catherine Rombeau defeated Republican former state Rep. Linda Rea Camarota in the race to fill a seat left vacant by the death of Republican Rep. David Danielson.

While the race was extremely close — 2,325 to 2,288 — Bedford has traditionally been a Republican-leaning community where Democrats shouldn’t be competitive. Last fall, Danielson received 6,890 votes and won a House seat, while Rombeau failed to make the cut with 5,488 votes. Only one Democrat, Rep. Sue Mullen, won a House seat in Bedford.....

GOP expectations were even higher in a special election when low turnout tends to help Republicans, and during a time when the Democratic Party’s poll numbers are low. President Joe Biden is underwater by 11 percent among New Hampshire voters.

And yet Rombeau got the win.....

While no Granite State Republicans were willing to talk on the record, off the record they were seething. If Republicans can’t win GOP towns like Bedford, their already razor-thin majority (208-187) could be at risk.

“It’s inexcusable,” one senior GOP source told NHJournal. “It looks like we got outworked–again. I’m really pissed.”

Another insider who worked on behalf of Camarota said Republicans “have no idea what Democrats are doing to drive this turnout.”....

Former NH Democratic Party chair Kathy Sullivan thinks she knows what happened.

“Is this 1st time in history that Bedford has had 2 Dem state reps? Rejection of extremist NHGOP by suburban voters,” she tweeted.

Full article:
https://nhjournal.com/is-nh-dems-surprise-victory-in-bedford-a-special-election-fluke-or-2022-omen/





The center/moderate right and independents are driving these sorts of results. The right has lost their votes due to the Trumpian shift in the party, but GOPers seem to be blind to this and are doubling down...
You get a Trump lite, you get a Trumkp lite, every district gets a Trump lite!... Good luck witth that one Trump fans.

And leaders like Desantis and Abbott are all the proof most "normal Americans" (see what I did there wink ) to know the inmates are running the asylum.

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Sure thing.

It's interesting, GOP candidates can't win most of their primaries without the Trump brand of abrasive politics, but at the same time are driving away independents and moderate republicans (RINOS!) in droves. Particularly in the suburbs.

I'd assume they are counting on the redrawing of district maps and more restrictive voting laws to help overcome a losing strategy.

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Well, I supposed that worked for Jim Jordan.


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Sure thing.

It's interesting, GOP candidates can't win most of their primaries without the Trump brand of abrasive politics, but at the same time are driving away independents and moderate republicans (RINOS!) in droves. Particularly in the suburbs.

I'd assume they are counting on the redrawing of district maps and more restrictive voting laws to help overcome a losing strategy.


Ultimately they are looking for the Trumpian Fascism to become acceptable to the masses... Then like all good authoritarian governments, lackey and boot lickers will get to serve the oligarchs with access to the "chosen one".

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Of course they now always employ the Trump strategy to try and rile their base. If they win the election is fair. If they loses it "was rigged". Sort of like the old joke, "Heads I win tails you lose".

They've already incited one insurrection that way so it appears that's their goal. If they can't win an election they will eventually just attempt to overthrow the government. I mean it's the American way, right?


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Trump brand of abrasive politics


Welp, Trump was a Democrat...and that's what Democrats do..." abrasive politics"! See Chucky Schumer, Dick Durbin, and Hillary Clinton (the queen of abrasive)

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Trump brand of abrasive politics


Welp, Trump was a Democrat...
Holy smokes, what a pivot!


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That's some Threat Level Midnight stuff right there!


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trump was never anything but a snake oil salesman. A self serving shapeshifter. You fell for him becoming a ‘Republican’. The sane among us see him for his narcissistic slimy self. donny is no more a Republican than he is a democrat, or a libertarian or a member of the Whig party. He is all about him. Whatever he can do, whatever shape he has to take, to shake you down, he’ll do. A grifter of the lowest order.


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I present you, one, Dwigt.

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I present you, one, Dwigt.



Speaking in tongues now?

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I think he men’s Daryl and his brother Daryl from Bob Newhart.


There will be no playoffs. Can’t play with who we have out there and compounding it with garbage playcalling and worse execution. We don’t have good skill players on offense period. Browns 20 - Bears 17.

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It is 67/33 and called 45 minutes after the polls closed..

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There will be no playoffs. Can’t play with who we have out there and compounding it with garbage playcalling and worse execution. We don’t have good skill players on offense period. Browns 20 - Bears 17.

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Hopefully the margin is so huge they won't be able use the "It was rigged" defense.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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