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He seems to try and claim all lemmings are the same. One group of what he calls lemmings didn't try to overthrow the election process or elect a man who did everything he could to purposefully divide our nation. But he can't see the difference.


He sees it. But there are a lot of centrists and independents feeling like both parties are nuts and they just want 1980 back again. I get it, but it's a pipe dream because nothing will ever be the same again, just like after 9/11.

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I certainly don't want 1980 back again - mostly because I wasn't born yet - but I want a massive overhaul - and I mean massive. Take the whole bipartisanship thing and throw it out the window type massive. Get money out of politics (at least to the scale that it's at now). Focus on doing your job instead of campaigning for half your time in office. Don't force-fit political bastions together (Republicans encompassing traditionalists and Libertarians and Democrats encompassing traditionalists and progressives).

A pipe dream, like you mention, but not a retroactive one of things being like they were. More like something that is improbable during my lifetime perhaps, but still something I yearn for.

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But there are a lot of centrists and independents feeling like both parties are nuts

It's really a shame that it's only centrists and independents that feel that way while so many others continue to toe that line.

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and they just want 1980 back again.

That goes against everything we have said about wanting more choices, wanting politicians that work for the people, etc...

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but it's a pipe dream because nothing will ever be the same again,

I will continue to dream, vote 3rd party, tell everybody who will listen how broken the system is, vote for anybody who wants to implement term limits, and do whatever I can, I guess. What I won't do is get sucked back into either of the corrupt parties that now represent my 2 options.. and telling me why one of them is slightly less horrible and corrupt than the other isn't a winning strategy for me.


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I think the one and only way that is accomplished is by us voters (to a person) all getting together and saying "enough is enough". The voters, as 1 unified group, have to do something really drastic like just voting out every single incumbent, regardless of party.

We need to pull our heads out of our butts.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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I agree completely. I just think that is the monumental task when you look at how engrained some people are (just look at the Thanks Y'all thread). Dealing with that engrainment, which has now been compounding itself for decades is the real issue. It's also getting even worse because living areas, gerrymandering, and media outlets have all sprung up to reinforce the dynamic.


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Originally Posted By: oobernoober
I think the one and only way that is accomplished is by us voters (to a person) all getting together and saying "enough is enough". The voters, as 1 unified group, have to do something really drastic like just voting out every single incumbent, regardless of party.

We need to pull our heads out of our butts.


I don't disagree, but seriously, that isn't going to happen. We can't even agree on what football plays we should run. tongue


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You're wrong. We do agree. Quit sowing discord!


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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Or from the left's point of view; 1/3 of the country has lost its mind and followed a fascist traitor over a mental cliff like loyal rabbid lemmings... Now the remaining san ue people need to make uncomfortable decisions to mitigate all the damage they are doing. So yes, shut up and comply.

Seriously though, question everything. We do. The difference is we operate (mostly) based on actual facts. Questioning everything when you believe nothing factual, sure seems counter productive to me. but you do you DC because last I seen this is still a free country... even with it's mandated vaccines.



From a non-partied point of view; Wow, lemmings are annoying- All the various groups of them. It's especially aggravating to watch them run at the same gap from different directions while they point at the opposite herd's ignorance.

It'd be great if they stopped focusing on each other and stopped to look around. Unfortunately, that's not the nature of lemmings, it seems.


Oh. I didn't know sitting with a fence post in your ass was back in fashion?... Somebody should call Vers.


I think of myself as more of a wanderer. When I see people walking into danger, I feel obligated to try to put up warning signs. I'm not trying to sit in the middle, that just happens to be where the issue is.

I don't see the point of trying to fit myself into groups that don't fit me. The whole these are your (bad) choices, you have to pick one mindset somewhat infuriates me. Oh well, onward to the Cliff! Feel free to ignore my "sign."


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Originally Posted By: oobernoober
I think the one and only way that is accomplished is by us voters (to a person) all getting together and saying "enough is enough". The voters, as 1 unified group, have to do something really drastic like just voting out every single incumbent, regardless of party.

We need to pull our heads out of our butts.


The problem with this is that there is the possibility that the other options we're given are somehow even worse.

Perhaps we should spend more time looking at where the choices come from and how we can improve/completely re-imagine those pipelines.


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He seems to try and claim all lemmings are the same. One group of what he calls lemmings didn't try to overthrow the election process or elect a man who did everything he could to purposefully divide our nation. But he can't see the difference.


He sees it. But there are a lot of centrists and independents feeling like both parties are nuts and they just want 1980 back again. I get it, but it's a pipe dream because nothing will ever be the same again, just like after 9/11.


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I think the one and only way that is accomplished is by us voters (to a person) all getting together and saying "enough is enough". The voters, as 1 unified group, have to do something really drastic like just voting out every single incumbent, regardless of party.

We need to pull our heads out of our butts.


I don't disagree, but seriously, that isn't going to happen. We can't even agree on what football plays we should run. tongue


I think we all agree that we should runs the ones that are successful. smile


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National school board group seeks federal help with threats against public school officials

A national organization representing school board officials from around the country is appealing to President Biden for assistance from federal law enforcement to address a growing number of violent threats and intimidation against public school officials over COVID-19 restrictions and critical race theory.

The leaders of the National School Boards Association, which represents more than 90,000 school board members, told Mr. Biden in a letter Wednesday that U.S. public schools and its leaders "are under an immediate threat" that requires the attention of law enforcement across all levels of government.

"While local and state law enforcement agencies are working with public school officials in several communities to prevent further disruptions to educational services and school district operations, law enforcement officials in some jurisdictions need assistance — including help with monitoring the threat levels," Viola Garcia, the group's president, and Chip Slaven, its interim executive director and CEO, told Mr. Biden.

The organization said it believes "immediate assistance" is needed to protect students, school board members and teachers "who are susceptible to acts of violence affecting interstate commerce because of threats to their districts, families, and personal safety."

"It is vital that public discourses be encouraged in a safe and open environment, in which varying viewpoints can be offered in a peaceful manner. Our children are watching the examples of the current debates and we must encourage a positive dialogue even with different opinions," the officials wrote. "However, with such acute threats and actions that are disruptive to our students' well-being, to the safety of public school officials and personnel, and to interstate commerce, we urge the federal government's intervention against individuals or hate groups who are targeting our schools and educators."

Driving the rise in threats and violent acts against school boards is opposition to policies requiring masks for students and teachers as part of efforts to combat the spread of the highly contagious Delta variant in schools. Children under the age of 12 are not yet eligible for vaccines protecting against COVID-19, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends universal indoor masking for all students, teachers and staff regardless of vaccination status.

But in some states, like Florida and Texas, governors have issued orders barring public schools from implementing mask mandates.

While protests against masks in schools have become the latest flashpoint in the pandemic, the National School Board Association said public school officials are also facing "physical threats" over opposition to critical race theory, an academic concept developed by legal scholars to examine the ongoing effects of racism in American policies and institutions.

Critical race theory has become a lightning rod for conservatives, and at least 25 states have sought to restrict the teaching of critical race theory or limit how teachers can discuss racism and sexism, according to an analysis by Education Week.

Across the country, school board meetings have been disrupted by protesters objecting to mask requirements, while others have had to end abruptly because of outbursts over critical race theory.

The National School Boards Association told Mr. Biden in its letter that critical race theory is not taught in public schools and is a subject that is beyond the scope of K-12 curriculum.

"These threats or actual acts of violence against our school districts are impacting the delivery of educational services to students and families, as many districts receive federal funds and subsidies for services to millions of students with disabilities, health screenings and supplemental supports for disadvantaged students, child nutrition, broadband connectivity, educator development, school safety activities, career and technical education, and more," Garcia and Slaven wrote.

In addition to asking for assistance with monitoring threat levels, they asked for a joint collaboration among federal, state and local law enforcement with public school officials. The association specifically wants to tap into resources from the Departments of Homeland Security and Justice, FBI, Secret Service and National Threat Assessment Center regarding the risk to students, teachers, school board members and educational facilities.

Because threats have been made during school board meetings, through the mail and on social media, Garcia and Slaven are also requesting help from the U.S. Postal Service Inspection Service to intervene against threatening letters and cyberbullying. They also are asking the federal government to "investigate, intercept, and prevent the current threats and acts of violence" through existing laws, executive authority, task forces and other measures.

"As the threats grow and news of extremist hate organizations showing up at school board meetings is being reported, this is a critical time for a proactive approach to deal with this difficult issue," they told Mr. Biden.

Neither the agencies nor the White House immediately returned requests for comment.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/school-boar..._mDHCAW3WrBbcXY


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Just the ones threatening violence which is a crime. If you don't want to be watched don't engage in criminal activity. At least that's what people like you used to say.


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Hey - it's a free country. Free speech ! We should all be allowed to go unchecked as we threaten teachers and public workers.


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This "Let's go Brandon" thing is the dumbest yet. For anyone who doesn't know, down at the Talladega track (some racetrack), fans chanted "F*** Joe Biden" and a reporter mistook it for 'let's go Brandon' due to a driver named Brandon... Now Trumpians have made a meme of it and are using it everywhere. Stupidest crap I've ever seen, but they get their jollies doing stupid crap, so more power to them. Meanwhile, back in the real world, Joe Biden continues being 1000% better than Trump.

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Being nasty at entirely new level became their brand beginning in 2015. It's the trumpian way!


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Only in Trump land will people yell F... Joe Biden and have fools think it's "lets go Brandon


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Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN
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I will continue to dream, vote 3rd party, tell everybody who will listen how broken the system is, vote for anybody who wants to implement term limits, and do whatever I can, I guess. What I won't do is get sucked back into either of the corrupt parties that now represent my 2 options.. and telling me why one of them is slightly less horrible and corrupt than the other isn't a winning strategy for me.
what does that have to do with the thread title. "US domestic terrorism investigations have more than doubled" ?


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Originally Posted by Damanshot
Only in Trump land will people yell F... Joe Biden and have fools think it's "lets go Brandon


And have it spread like crazy as if it was witty. You should google Brandon memes and look at all the trash.

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Originally Posted by THROW LONG
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I will continue to dream, vote 3rd party, tell everybody who will listen how broken the system is, vote for anybody who wants to implement term limits, and do whatever I can, I guess. What I won't do is get sucked back into either of the corrupt parties that now represent my 2 options.. and telling me why one of them is slightly less horrible and corrupt than the other isn't a winning strategy for me.
what does that have to do with the thread title. "US domestic terrorism investigations have more than doubled" ?

idk Throw, but I do have something more important for you to put that mental power on... "US domestic terrorism investigations have more than doubled"; I think this is because the right is producing domestic terrorists at an alarming rate. People who would destroy democracy to have their guy back in power... So, Throw, I know you probably don't agree with what I just stated, and I challenge you to prove me wrong.

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Only in Trump land will people yell F... Joe Biden and have fools think it's "lets go Brandon


And have it spread like crazy as if it was witty. You should google Brandon memes and look at all the trash.
Millions of Americans made fun of our last president because of the color of his skin... and you're offended by Brandon memes??

Y'all libs need some thicker skin. rofl


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Millions of Americans made fun of our last president because of the color of his skin...

Bro- millions of Americans made fun of him because of his choice of skin color.
He looks like this because he chooses to look like this... and goes to great lengths to portray this picture of himself.

This isn't matter of Genetics In America.

His appearance isn't the result of some freak medical accident that made him some tragic, melanin-altered victim in a nation that favors people with LESS color in their faces.

This guy places opaque goggles over his eyes, and sprays chemicals matching his 'skin color of choice' onto his pasty white canvas of a face. There is no other reasonable explanation for his perpetual "reverse raccoon" appearance dating back at least 6-8 years ago.

Millions of people make fun of that.

He's a public figure with a larger-than-life image.
He's not a victim. He's a player in the game.

He gets what he earns.

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Only in Trump land will people yell F... Joe Biden and have fools think it's "lets go Brandon


And have it spread like crazy as if it was witty. You should google Brandon memes and look at all the trash.
Millions of Americans made fun of our last president because of the color of his skin... and you're offended by Brandon memes??

Y'all libs need some thicker skin. rofl

I'm not offended by brandon memes. I am offended by the chanting of F#!% Biden outside an elementary school.


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