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He doesn't want to admit that Trump made a deal with the terrorists while barring the Afghanistan government from taking part in the negotiations. Deflection is their game.

I see the INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST gang has recruited another member.

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Supporting the biggest liar to ever be in The White House doesn't really give you any credibility in judging who is and who isn't honest. Just sayin'.

The conversation isn't about former president Trump.

As the current President, President Biden could have changed that if he was unsure or unwilling to execute the plan.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...plifting-crisis/ar-AAPBgEc?ocid=msedgntp

Drugstore chain Walgreens is leaving San Francisco because of goofball government policies. The left coast is falling apart and those idiots think everything is A OK...lol.

2021 CA economy - larger than the 5th largest country in the world. Rumors of the great CA demise as population and companies flee California - a popular Republican narrative for years now - seem a little premature.

I think CA has some absolutely crazy legislation and they have real challenges, now and in the future. But I don't know that any of them are insurmountable. I don't know that you can point to any state, red or blue or purple, and not highlight some deep issues and challenges. Maybe we should try to keep the conversation real?

Edit - provided link showing 2019 numbers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_between_U.S._states_and_sovereign_states_by_GDP

The Washington Examiner? Really? There are five Walgreens closing in San Fransisco. Walgreens isn't "pulling out" of San Fransisco. As with many businesses who close in high crime areas. Try checking your sources better.

5 more San Francisco Walgreens to close; SF Supervisor says it's directly related to retail theft

https://abc7news.com/walgreens-stores-closing-san-francisco-retail-theft-ocean-ave/11119691/

This thread brings out the ugly side in your politics, not seen in other threads. A certain schadenfreude. Maybe it's just getting revved up by people who are like-minded.

I don't know much about Portland since I haven't been there since I was 5, and I appreciate the article you wrote. However, why would we disparage the view of a poster on here who actually lives in the city?

Muni just posted about these other cities as though they are dystopian. I just went to Chicago a couple months ago with my whole family and stayed downtown. It was fine. Toured the Sears Tower - or whatever it's called now, and went to American Girl store. Walked places for breakfast and even stayed out late to go to some restaurants and pubs that we saw on Food Network. Drove through areas from White Sox stadium all the way up to Wrigleyville. Everything seemed normal to us.

San Francisco is certainly a weird city politics-wise, but we went there over the summer and didn't see any issues. Fisherman's Wharf was fine. Downtown was fine. Did the Pacific Highway drive. Everything - except COVID protocols - seemed pretty much the same as it did the last few times we were there in 2016-2020.

Went to Boston at the beginning of the summer. Did the freedom trail. Everything seemed great.

Most Urban areas are Democrat-controlled, but I haven't noticed much of a difference in safety between places like Chicago, DFW (I usually go to the FW side) and Jacksonville.

My schadenfreude will be off the charts when the reaper catches up with Trump. May dance a jig.

Queue the pearl clutchers.

I am sure tourist areas are fine. Spend all the money you want. Just don't go there to live.

What's that based on? One of my best friends lives in downtown Chicago and loves it. Grabs me the Goose Island Bourbon County variant pack every year, which I greatly appreciate.

I want to thank the good people of NC who voted this guy in. Thanks y’all.

It's just what they do. There are good and bad neighborhoods all across America. There are good sides of town and bad sides of town. We all know the saying, "He came from the wrong side of the tracks". Big cities are no different. But what they do is concentrate on the bad parts of a city and use it to make a broad brush statement that the entire city is bad. There are very affluent parts of Chicago. You know this about many cities they wish to say are "bad" because you have been there. You know this because you have traveled and seen this first hand. Meanwhile they sit back and spread lies that reflect a different story. Somehow, once again, they think their "feelings" mean it's true.

I hate that his district covers one of my favorite beer/bbq cities.

Downtown Chicago is the tourist area. Drive 6 miles south and hang out.


Well, don't, I like you.

How about six miles north, or east, or west? But you've got your section of Chicago you use to push your agenda.

Is he wrong?

Hell, you don't need to go 6 miles from downtown Chicago. Go 16 blocks. I have 3 good friends that live there. All are very wealthy, no doubt: Surgeon, business owner (centro), and v.p. of a multinational company. As with any city, there are safe neighborhoods, and bad neighborhoods.

Just so happens south Chicago is a bad neighborhood.

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Interesting. INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY as best. I’m actually amazed at how low they will go.

Apparently it matters where they are killed in Chicago. The litmus test must be as long as tourism isn’t affected or it stays out of the burbs it’s all good, heck with the folks stuck in the “bad” areas they don’t matter. There suppose to be the compassionate ones? I can think of a few other words to describe them

Last weekend 24 were shot and 4 were murdered but it only happened in the slums so who cares. Labor Day weekend 8 children were shot and a 4 year old boy was murdered but the tourism wasn’t affected. As long as it doesn’t affect them they could care less unless it fits there agenda.

Ask him if he’s go spend the weekend in the hood of south side of Chicago with his loved ones … he’s not stupid so not a shot in hell!


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My wife and I love Chicago. A great city to visit. We/I have been there many, many times for pleasure plus another 4-5 times when either she or I had business meetings in the city. It's one of the profile capitols of the country. They do a good job of keeping it safe because if you don't look like you belong, the cops are on your ass in a hurry. That way when people visit, they have a great time and can't wait to come again. And yes, we will probably go again, but we are starting to change our views on which states and cities we are willingly going to spend our money and which ones we aren't.

Another blurb about the troubles in Portland. As the writer says, i hope what is going on there isn't allowed to spread elsewhere.

I am not sure what those people are thinking?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/p...t-happened-next/ar-AAPIuLC?ocid=msedgntp

Biden and the Democrats screw the little guy again
Hugo Gurdon 18 hrs ago


What was the greatest trick ever pulled? Was it the devil convincing the world he didn’t exist, as Charles Baudelaire said and Keyser Söze repeated? Or maybe it was Soviet Socialists and their acolytes persuading the world that National Socialists were right wing? Perhaps it was one of those. But in America for several decades, it is surely Democrats tricking people into believing they’re on the side of the little guy.


President Joe Biden touts his proposal for another $5.5 trillion of welfare spending, saying it’s “an ambitious plan to create jobs, cut taxes, and lower costs for working families — all paid for by making the tax code fairer and making the wealthiest and large corporations pay their fair share.”


The White House website makes the president seem like Robin Hood taking from the rich to give to the poor. The claim is so laughable that there should also be a picture of shrunken Joe in forest green doublet and hose just to make the joke clear.

The idea that Biden’s policies help ordinary people by digging deeper into the pockets of the wealthy is a crock. As Phil Gramm, former chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, and Mike Solon wrote in the Wall Street Journal recently, Democrats want the wealthiest to be able again to deduct the sky-high taxes levied by the profligate governments they elect in blue states and slough them on to other federal taxpayers and into public debt. If Biden really planned to prevent the best-off taxpayers using sophisticated accounting to avoid liabilities, he’d have proposed restoring the Alternative Minimum Tax rather than lifting the cap from State and Local Tax deductions.

Not that I’m a fan of the AMT; I’m not, partly because wealthy Americans already contribute a bigger share of tax revenues than their counterparts do in any other country. The problem with our tax code is not that rates are too low, but they’re too high and discourage wealth creation and job growth. It’s galling to see glaringly false advertising by Biden and his colleagues as they try to fool voters into believing they’re looking out for the poor and downtrodden.

The tirelessly and tiresomely repeated claim that the president’s plan would increase taxes only on people earning more than $400,000 is false. It is already dipping deeper into the pockets of everyone in this country, right down to those living below the poverty line.

Here’s how. By handing out unnecessary federal checks, supposedly to stimulate the economy, and by pressing for the biggest increase in further spending in history, Biden is stoking inflation. Because of him, more and more dollars are chasing goods that are in shortening supply in part because there are a record 10 million job vacancies nationwide.

Prices are rising faster than wages — 5.4% year over year and more than 6% so far this year — which means that unless you get a 6% pay raise, the value of your take-home check is falling. As many economists — for example, Thomas Sowell — have pointed out, inflation is essentially a tax and one that falls disproportionately on the poor.

Federal taxes take buying power out of everyone’s pocket and put it into the Treasury to pay for welfare programs. Inflation, likewise, takes buying power out of your pocket to pay for federal spending. What’s the difference? Only that that former is official and the latter stealthy. But both intentionally do the same thing.

Inflation is the most regressive tax of all. The “wealthy” — those well off enough to benefit from SALT, for example — spend a smaller proportion of their incomes on food and energy than the poor do. They have capital investments, such as in homes, the prices of which are rocket-boosted by inflation as the value of a dollar collapses. Inflation is the borrower’s friend because it reduces the value of debt, whether that be the debt piled up in Treasury paper by Biden & Co. or the mortgage debt of the upper-middle and wealthiest classes.

Inflation doesn’t benefit people who live hand to mouth or those who don’t have investments. Little guys do not own their own homes, or second homes, and spend far more of their income on goods and services needed for day-to-day living. So inflation hits them hardest. A government that lets inflation rip, as Biden’s administration has, is not on the side of the poor. It is taxing them even though it keeps insisting it isn’t.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...ittle-guy-again/ar-AAPIw6Z?ocid=msedgntp

Ha, thanks man. Despite all our banter on here, I obviously like and think highly of you, too.

The thing about any city, though, is that they are all going to have their bad areas, whether Chicago, NYC, Jacksonville, Dallas, wherever.

This is absolutely unreal. People just don't realize how much a trillion actually is. Just a short time ago, considering a trillion dollar budget would have been laughed at by even the most liberal of politicians. Hundreds of billions used to make people shudder. Now, once we crossed that trillion line, we're already up to 5 trillion....that's FIVE THOUSAND BILLION. The result of this spending is going to be runaway inflation, just like this guy said. These projections rely completely on using the current incomes of corporations and the wealthy and assuming that those will remain constant, ignoring the fact that they will shelter money, lower income or downsize to meet tax thresholds, or move business assetts overseas. The budget also projects that inflation will reach no more than 2.3 percent annually. I realize that the budget is slated to be 3.5 trillion, but even liberal media outlets like CNBC are reporting that the resulting federal expenditure will exceed 5 trillion dollars.

5 trillion. Let that sink in. An airplane propeller doesn't spin around 1 trillion times in the life of an airplane. There are no trillionaires. The dems are using the pandemic to buy votes with money they don't have, taking the failed strategy of spending your way out debt to epic proportions. I don't want to hear any whataboutism, the republicans did it to a lesser extent and nobody's arguing that. I feel sorry for our offspring, who will be saddled with the ramifications. I love the way Biden's calling it a 10yr plan. He's going to be about 90 before we can call it a failure, lol.

Well, when you legalize rioting, what do you expect? Police have been reduced to one weapon -- a loudspeaker -- "please don't destroy the city?!". Stand and watch... prosecute later. Or not, all the cases get thrown out by the county DA. Seems like a great place to live.

The hilarious part in all of this is you never uttered a peep while Trump did the exact same thing. Not a peep. He raised the debt during his presidency by 7.8 trillion dollars. Where was all of your dire warnings and predictions then? Where was your outrage then? Now you sit here and promote the same thing you should have been saying about Trump. But then he was your boy.

Trump, after adding trillions to the government’s IOUs, comments on debt ceiling fight

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-after-...nts-on-debt-ceiling-fight-140008719.html

You sound a lot like Trump. He never cared about the deficit until after he left office. The debt only seems to bother you when it's created to help the common people.

Picking one portion of a city to paint the picture of an entire city is INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY at its best. But then I don't expect a Trump supporter to have any idea as to what INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY looks like.

That particular poster using the word ‘intellectual’ is comedy gold in and of itself.

See, you can't even follow the flow of a conversation.

The start was the problems on the west coast.

Then Lover said something about not noticing problems in his travels.

Then i said the tourist areas are generally ok

Then he said he visited a friend who lived in downtown Chicago
Then I said that downtown was the tourist area and said go outside of downtown, picking south

Then you start flapping your lips about agenda.

Nobody cares about your whataboutism. The current problem is the current Administration.

That is the problem. They cannot defend a failed President.

Inflation skyrocketing out of control, chaos in Afghanistan withdraw, soon to be Tawain (After China saw our weakness in Afghanistan), soon to be Ukraine (After Russia saw our weakness in Afghanistan), the U.S. Supply Chain problem, crime skyrocketing in large cities all across the U.S., Biden shared bank account with son Hunter, massive surge of illegal immigrants and no policy controls, economy worsening every day. I could go on and on and on. He is making Jimmy Carter look like a rock star President.

wait, you guys are still whining about afghanistan?

its like some of you guys cant imagine an America without being at war against someone else. its like some of you think 'strength' is the ability to kill as many people as possible, and continuous warfare.

seems like you guys think the only thing this country has to offer to the rest of the world is bombs and bullets. thats sad.

I can't speak for others, but I am not complaining about leaving. The problem is how we ended up leaving. No matter what President Trump negotiated, or the timeframe, I don't think it included being as botched as it was. That is on the current administration.

I follow along just fine. You never say, "There are parts of Chicago" that are terrible. You never say, "There are parts of Portland" that are terrible". And you are even sticking to your claim that it's only "the tourist areas" that are "generally okay". Which is an outright lie. There are very affluent residential neighborhoods in Chicago. They are not "tourist areas". The same goes for Portland. So yes, you're painting a false picture because you either falsely believe it or it's simply your agenda.

You just provided all of the evidence needed to prove you don't give a damn about the deficit. You only care about who is creating it. Thanks for playing.

Just more INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY from one of the leaders of the club

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For starters what Trump did is a non issue as joKe blew up every other thing Trump did …

- stay in Mexico
- building the wall
- keystone pipeline (these dolts cheer that while all the low income families joKe is allegedly trying to help are getting hurt by the rising gas prices the most … as is letting in all the illegals as that will only lower wages … INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY combined with HYPOCRISY and/or STUPIDITY … )

That list is endless yet for some reason joKe was held to Trumps deal … making that argument is well beyond INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY …

How the plans varied

- Trump would have evacuated all US citizens and SIV’s before leaving .. that means we’d have 13 more American heroes living and breathing and many more with all their limbs in tact … there’s be a few hundred more afghan’s alive including the children we killed by the drone strike that killed an aide worker … NICE JOB Y’ALL …

- there would be NO AMERICANS left behind … something the one being INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST u responded too should understand and appreciate more than most … i guess he would be OK if it was him left behind … I DOUBT IT …

- we would not have left behind billions of dollars worth of military equipment including black hawks and planes …

- we would have never left Bagram … EVER … to critical of a location …

If the Taliban drew the plan up I doubt it would have varied at all … this pull out FAR EXCEEDED there wildest hopes and dreams ….

PS. We hadn’t lost an American soldier in combat in over 18 months before joKe made one of if not the worst military mistake in our countries history and these INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST sheep can’t own up to it … SAD EXCUSES FOR AMERICANS!

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You have no idea what Trump "would have done". What we know Trump did do was negotiate a deal with terrorists while blocking the Afghan government form being allowed in the negotiation process. It was Trump's deal. Quit using INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY to try and cover it up. You're a sad excuse for an American.

The Trump administration actually only built 80 miles of new border "fence" where none existed before. 33 miles of that wasn't even what you think of as "the wall". It was a secondary barrier to back up a primary "fence". If you're trying to call out others for not being honest, at least admit that a wall is something you can't see through and a fence has slats in it that you can see through. And you wonder why nobody takes some of you seriously.

Speaking of INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY... When is Mexico going to start sending us those checks to pay for the wall/fence?

I stopped reading his garbage when he got to regurgitating Keystone pipeline mistruths. That oil would have been heading for foreign markets. It wouldn’t have changed the price in the US. Though all the very corrosive and dirty Canadian oil it would be moving would fall on our soil, over our largest aquifer (Ogallala), when it would inevitably spring a leak. Which they all do. To the tunes of hundreds of thousands of gallons.
The rest of Diam’s rantings are just ignorant trash. Why let it pollute you?

It doesn't actually pollute me. I find it has some comedy value and just throw dung back in his face. That's all he seems to do here anymore. Trump has been lying to them all from day one. "I'm going to build the wall and Mexico is going to pay for it!". And then they come here cracking jokes about INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY. It's hilarious!