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Dawgs4Life #1897175 10/29/21 06:22 AM
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You can't have enough CBs...ok Ward is hurt again as long as we got a good next man up then that is fine with me. Newsome, Ward, Greedy, Hill and climbing up the ladder is Green. Ward will get health and be back soon and our strength on D will grow! We are back to the chicken little syndrome...hey crap happens we have our doors covered.


bring in a BEAST of a TE and a DT then BPA in the draft....team gets healthy we should be good - Prayers for a positive surgery for Baker. Time for the draft again.
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Lol true


"First down inside the 10. A score here likely puts us in the Super Bowl. Landry is far to the left as Hooper settles into the slot. DPJ is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Hunt are split in the backfield as Baker takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
Agreed. Greedy is a pleasant surprise. Ward’s injury issues are becoming tiresome

Greedy has definitely been a nice surprise this year. It took long enough, but it is very welcomed.
Ward... I'm just not seeing him get a new deal here. I hate saying that. I love that we have THREE very solid CBs, but the reality is that we will still have Newsome and Greedy, and we can draft one and let Ward go in free agency AND get the compensatory pick.

To use Berry's phrase, I think Ward has earned the right to find his value on the free market.


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j/c...


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Welp, let’s go Baker!


"First down inside the 10. A score here likely puts us in the Super Bowl. Landry is far to the left as Hooper settles into the slot. DPJ is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Hunt are split in the backfield as Baker takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Sucks about DPJ. It seems like he’s got a fairly severe pull


"First down inside the 10. A score here likely puts us in the Super Bowl. Landry is far to the left as Hooper settles into the slot. DPJ is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Hunt are split in the backfield as Baker takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Uh, I’ll call BS on this one, and I think this is incredibly stupid. We can beat Pittsburgh with Case and a smart game, if the defense is at least serviceable, which I think they will be with Ben’s weak arm.

We aren’t making the playoffs with all the high powered offenses late in the season without Baker at 90-100%.

I would not be surprised if he is out for good after the first grind into the turf from Watt.

One thing Riley did extremely well at OU is he saved Baker from himself. Stefanski has not figured that out yet.

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2 Different sets up medical teams have cleared him and said he is good to go.... unless pple on the board have all of Bakers medical charts/xrays/mri results etc. leave it up to the medical teams. For the people bashing on Stefanski about the decision to play Baker let me repeat it for the ones in the back..... MEDICAL Team has cleared him.

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And that sounds all fine and good. The question at that point becomes slightly more complicated. Are they clearing him to play with this week in mind only? Is the risk of further injury to his damaged shoulder being taken into consideration in the decision? You see, you can set your measurables on a current moment in time. You can also set your measurables based on the probability of the long term prognosis. Are they considering the further harm that may be done by being hit and the physical abuse that may be taken in an NFL game or simply on the injury as a snapshot at this time?

None of us really have the answer to those questions and for at least some of us that's a critical part of the equation.


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Exactly.

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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
And that sounds all fine and good. The question at that point becomes slightly more complicated. Are they clearing him to play with this week in mind only? Is the risk of further injury to his damaged shoulder being taken into consideration in the decision? You see, you can set your measurables on a current moment in time. You can also set your measurables based on the probability of the long term prognosis. Are they considering the further harm that may be done by being hit and the physical abuse that may be taken in an NFL game or simply on the injury as a snapshot at this time?

None of us really have the answer to those questions and for at least some of us that's a critical part of the equation.

Agreed. He's 'cleared' to play. Meaning, I assume, he is physically able to do what is required to play.

The flip side is, what about that one hit that might be coming that completely destroys the left arm, and puts him out for the year?

Problem is, the doctors can't account for that in clearing him.

Tough spot to be in. We need a win. He's cleared. Play him. Best outcome, no big hits, no further or increased injury. Worst outcome? We lose him for the rest of the year.

I'm no doctor, but the labrum won't heal itself, right? The fracture could take 4-6 weeks to heal, right?


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But if you are going by the ole one hit could destroy his shoulder scenario you could say that about any hit to any player….. if medical team cleared him he is cleared…. Medical team won’t be a medical team for long if they are putting players at risk of further injury just for the sake of allowing Baker to play this week.

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I have no idea about the injury other than what I've seen and I have no idea of the accuracy of those reports.

What I do know is a doctor can extrapolate the possibility of further injury based on contact and physical collisions like happen regularly in football. The only question is are they? And if they are, are they telling us about it?


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Originally Posted by savagedawgs
But if you are going by the ole one hit could destroy his shoulder scenario you could say that about any hit to any player…..

Yet there is zero chance that the risks are the same for a healthy shoulder as an injured shoulder.


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Baker is also playing for a contract. Is that a factor?


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Certainly for him. But this is(should be) a team decision. And unless he can play like week 1, I think it is a bad personal move too.

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Only thing is Baker is going to have a target on his left shoulder. Do you think the teams we play are going to try and avoid that shoulder?

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No I don't. The object of any competition is to exploit the weakness of your opponent. An already injured shoulder is a prime target for your opposition. That only increases the risk of a longer and more serious injury.


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Originally Posted by PrplPplEater
.... let Ward go in free agency ..... I think Ward has earned the right to find his value on the free market.

Has he earned the right? I don't think so. He's been hurt more often than not and not as effective as he initially was when drafted. Geez, he was drafted at #4; you simply don't let those guys walk.


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Originally Posted by bbrowns32
Originally Posted by PrplPplEater
.... let Ward go in free agency ..... I think Ward has earned the right to find his value on the free market.

Has he earned the right? I don't think so. He's been hurt more often than not and not as effective as he initially was when drafted. Geez, he was drafted at #4; you simply don't let those guys walk.
He's had enough time to find out his value. The value of a cb that isn't available much of the time.


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A longer week off and our injury report still looks like War and Peace


"First down inside the 10. A score here likely puts us in the Super Bowl. Landry is far to the left as Hooper settles into the slot. DPJ is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Hunt are split in the backfield as Baker takes the snap ... Here we go."
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LeCounte must have really pist off someone.

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Originally Posted by DaveyD
LeCounte must have really pist off someone.

I heard he stole all of Cookie Monsters cookies AND Oscar’s trash.

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Originally Posted by cfrs15
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LeCounte must have really pist off someone.

I heard he stole all of Cookie Monsters cookies AND Oscar’s trash.
Took me a second. then I spit out my coffee. You owe me a new keyboard. rofl


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Is Lecounte the first player to be disciplined by Stefanski (at least that we know of)?


"First down inside the 10. A score here likely puts us in the Super Bowl. Landry is far to the left as Hooper settles into the slot. DPJ is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Hunt are split in the backfield as Baker takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Openly/publicly, I think so. I can't recall another, anyway.


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Originally Posted by DaveyD
If Baker starts, he better make sure he stays in the pocket as much as he can and don't scramble unless absolutely necessary. Oh, and don't take any unnecessary hits and don't try to tackle a Defensive player.
in the first 4
or the first 5
or the first 6 divisional games of last year, in 2020. Mayfield, had an int. in each game.

Now This year. If feels like they are coaching the interceptions out of Mayfield, BUT! Are they ALSO, coaching the big plays and touchdowns out of Baker also.


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