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I know the Watson situation. If the Texans were going to trade him for a sixth round pick he’d have been on another team for 7 months.

You said everything in 5 lines. There's absolutely nothing more to add - not from my perspective leastways.

Even if we took a Hail Mary on Watson, I don’t know if it changes anything.

What’s to say coach doesn’t put a choke collar on him like he’s doing baker?

I'm just glad others are seeing it too.

Where was the choke collar last year? The QB is hurt, he can’t throw down field.

Do we really think Stefanski went into this season and said, “You know what we need to get rid of, all those huge chunks plays that we had last year.”

Yea if you don’t think you’re QB is good enough in clutch moments and needs to micromanaged.

Hell you said yourself that baker turns into the worst QB under pressure. I’m sure the analytics guys on the team already was well aware of that.

So based on your own comments, you shouldn’t be acting as if al of a sudden that perspective isn’t in the realm of possibility from Stefanski.

Why wasn’t it the case last year?

The obvious answer is that our QB broke and dislocated and tore his shoulder in the second game of the season.

Baker was fine last year in this exact same offense with the exact same players with the exact same play caller. What changed? Baker’s arm is being held in place by a piece of fabric. Along with that we lost our two starting tackles for different stretches, which would cause more pressure for our injured QB.

Most times the easy answer is also the correct answer.

Browns could ruin Watson, the same as they could have ruined Josh Allen, or they could have ruined Lamar Jackson, and they could also ruin Aron Rodgers or they could ruin Patrick Mahomes, and would have anyone else if they had taken them also.

Was it?

Tell me, how many years has baker been ranked near the bottom of the league when under pressure?

You love that stat.

By the way, baker was throwing lasers this game. So he didn’t seem to struggle trying to fit it tight windows. He didn’t seemed bothered by his shoulder when he got tackled out of bounds into the bench, then got up and and started flexing and hyped.

But all of a sudden, your favorite stat doesn’t apply then. Odd.

I don’t think it’s one reason, but I also think some reasons are definitely a bigger issue than others.

I think it’s perfectly reasonable to start looking at Stefanski as a reason. He is the HC after all. The buck stops with him.

I’m not sure what the question here is but Baker has been horrible, literally among the worst in the league, when pressured his entire career. This is not a new development.

I think it's a shoulder harness and not a choke collar. And Stefanski didn't put it there.