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Watching Chiefs vs Packers. 13-0, Chiefs. Somewhere, Aaron Rogers is smiling, because Jordan Love looks lost.

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And Patrick Mahomes looks broken again.

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How did Jax beat the Bills?


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Originally Posted by EveDawg
How did Jax beat the Bills?

They had more points.

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Green Bay has looked so bad (and KC not much better)


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted by cfrs15
And Patrick Mahomes looks broken again.


Uh yeah…patiently waiting for the media mafia to attack him. Is he above reproach?

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The football gods love the Ravens. That team should be 2-6. Yet they stand at 6-2.

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Originally Posted by cfrs15
Originally Posted by EveDawg
How did Jax beat the Bills?

They had more points.

Always the little smarta$$ aren't you? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....

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So is Josh Allen still elite? 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Originally Posted by Baker_Dawg
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And Patrick Mahomes looks broken again.


Uh yeah…patiently waiting for the media mafia to attack him. Is he above reproach?

Mahomes is the face of the NFL right now, so they'll layoff for the time being. Don't want to hurt the brand. Plus, back to back Super Bowls buys you a lot of goodwill.

He should be getting ripped for his dumb brother. Making TikToks on Sean Taylor's memorial. Yikes.

His girlfriend and mom whining on social media don't get criticized either.

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Stafford just threw a horrible pick from his own end zone. Should of just took the safety


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What the heck was that by Stafford


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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And again!!


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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And you get a pick
And you get a pick
And you get a pick


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Tennessee is well coached and tough


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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2 picks by Stafford in 26 seconds


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Originally Posted by EveDawg
And you get a pick
And you get a pick
And you get a pick

rofl

Handing 'em out like candy!


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Originally Posted by Baker_Dawg
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And Patrick Mahomes looks broken again.


Uh yeah…patiently waiting for the media mafia to attack him. Is he above reproach?
Winning a super bowl and an MVP buys you a longer grace period before they start calling you out as part of the problem... but he hasn't looked good.


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There have been some weird scores this week. Could the Bears possibly help us out?? Please


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Wow.

I really wanted to draft Darnold.

Da.

He is now the Tin Man in the Wizard of Oz playing without a brain.

Awful with a capitol A.

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Originally Posted by bonefish
Wow.

I really wanted to draft Darnold.

Da.

He is now the Tin Man in the Wizard of Oz playing without a brain.

Awful with a capitol A.


So did I and many others. Glad Im not picking



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He should be getting ripped for his dumb brother. Making TikToks on Sean Taylor's memorial. Yikes.

His girlfriend and mom whining on social media don't get criticized either.

Well if he doesn't call them out he must support it.


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Freaking Ravens.

Packers are finally looking at taking a downward spiral into the bad-team abyss once Rodgers moves on.


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Baltimore has certainly been living right this year: at LV, vs KC, at DET, vs MIN all certainly could/should have been losses


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Either elite/good teams always find ways to win - or they have been lucky - or they will be exposed.

I tend to think law of averages means things tend to revert to the mean at some point ... like the Browns D being woefully low on turnovers until yesterday. I think these escapes by the Ravens will catch up with them sometime.


The more things change the more they stay the same.
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j/c...

Myles Garrett might have to smash Mac Jones's head in with his helmet if he pulls this next week....


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Woah... that should be up there with the Suh stomp and the Haynesworth stomp, no?


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Worthy of a fine. Unfortunately, the NFL won't suspend a starting QB over that.


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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
Baltimore has certainly been living right this year: at LV, vs KC, at DET, vs MIN all certainly could/should have been losses
Yep. I mean you have to give them credit because good teams find ways to win... but they have pulled the proverbial rabbit out of a hat several times this year in games they should have lost.

According to that ESPN "Win Probability" calculator, at different times in those games:


Chiefs had a 84% chance of winning near the start of the 4th quarter
Lions had a 70% chance of winning with 26 seconds to go in the game
Indy had a 91% chance of winning in the 4th quarter
Vikings had a 85% chance of winning around halftime

And the Ravens won them all... good for them but that's a hard way to make a living.


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Mac Jones should be fined for that for sure


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Who was the guy trying to break Cam Newton’s ankle? Was it Suh?

*Google search*

Burfict!

Burfict is definitely the dirtiest player from the last several years. He basically got excommunicated from the league for being too dirty.

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Originally Posted by Milk Man
j/c...

Myles Garrett might have to smash Mac Jones's head in with his helmet if he pulls this next week....


He should be fined, at a minimum!
Even if we weren't playing them this week, I'd support his being suspended a game or two and forfeiting those checks.


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He should definitely be suspended for that. There is no excuse, and he definitely knew what he was doing.


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Originally Posted by YTownBrownsFan
He should definitely be suspended for that. There is no excuse, and he definitely knew what he was doing.

Burfict was actively trying to hurt players on a weekly basis and the league didn’t want to suspend him. There is a 0% chance Jones is suspended.

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Originally Posted by cfrs15
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He should definitely be suspended for that. There is no excuse, and he definitely knew what he was doing.

Burfict was actively trying to hurt players on a weekly basis and the league didn’t want to suspend him. There is a 0% chance Jones is suspended.

I said should, not will be. I stand by my comment.


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You forgot about the Mike Tomlin clause which permits such behavior.


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Originally Posted by YTownBrownsFan
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He should definitely be suspended for that. There is no excuse, and he definitely knew what he was doing.

Burfict was actively trying to hurt players on a weekly basis and the league didn’t want to suspend him. There is a 0% chance Jones is suspended.

I said should, not will be. I stand by my comment.


I know what you said. I don’t know if he should or not. Just saying he won’t.

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Myles and Clowney will knock the snot out of him for a move like that against us.


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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
Myles and Clowney will knock the snot out of him for a move like that against us.

They will also do it if he doesn’t.

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Originally Posted by YTownBrownsFan
He should definitely be suspended for that. There is no excuse, and he definitely knew what he was doing.

I definitely agree.

So, with him being on the Patriots and all, and with their next game being against us, we can definitely expect nothing will happen, correct?


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He should definitely be suspended for that. There is no excuse, and he definitely knew what he was doing.

I definitely agree.

So, with him being on the Patriots and all, and with their next game being against us, we can definitely expect nothing will happen, correct?

Nothing was going to happen either way.

Also, the Patriots have been disciplined by the league more than basically every team.

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There is a chance that the Browns could be fighting for whether or not to HAVE a tie Break Advantage in a one on one consideration with the Buffalo Bills, for a Playoff Berth,
hinging on the outcome of the Browns at Patriots game, which is next week.

Not just playing the Patriots, but playing the entire AFC east, the Jets, Bills, Patriots, and the Dolphins.
and everyone in your division too!

The Patriots game is a must win! for the Browns if they want to be a playoff team.


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No lie... this game is HUGE for both divisions.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Justin fields looks like every great qb from Ohio state. Dude will be out of the league in less than 5 years. Nagy doesn’t do him any favors though


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Mike Tomczak, buckeyes qb in 1985, had a somewhat of a career. Joe burrow had a little one. I think Justin Fields has a shot to stick in the NFL for about a lengthy career.


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Do the Bears, in the Bears steelers game,

demonstrate poor running back play, or poor offensive line play??


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These officials are awful


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14-6 Steelers. Da Bears keep hangin' around, but they are hard to watch.

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Pittsburgh using the refs to win again. This game is a joke. Feilds is getting pummeled and no calls. I frigging hate the NFL referees. Took away a TD with a bad call, and then let Feilds get hit late. Sickening. Somethings never change


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Pittsburgh using the refs to win again. This game is a joke. Feilds is getting pummeled and no calls. I frigging hate the NFL referees. Took away a TD with a bad call, and then let Feilds get hit late. Sickening. Somethings never change
Fields gets nailed late three times in a row, no flags. Shameful. That's what happens in a league where these blind fools answer to nobody. This league is getting so hard to watch with the officiating favoring the teams it does. An absolute joke anymore.


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Now a bullcrap PI call


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20-14. Da Bears aren't ready to hibernate just yet!

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Bears are getting hosed by the zebras, big time. Now Bears' fans know how we feel twice a year.

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My question is why?

Why do the stoolers get such shamefully advantageous calls? What do the zebras gain by elevating the stoolers in literally EVERY GAME.

It’s not even close. No calls when they commit and BS calls against whoever plays them.

EVERY GAME.

Why?

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WOW. Da Bears with a fumble TD!!!!!!

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Couple more PI calls and this will be over….

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New York called, they said!

Don't let Pittsburg lose. ...

Ref.. Taunting. 15 yards, give the Steelers a first down.

the NFL is anything but a level playing field.

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Originally Posted by redddog
My question is why?

Why do the stoolers get such shamefully advantageous calls? What do the zebras gain by elevating the stoolers in literally EVERY GAME.

It’s not even close. No calls when they commit and BS calls against whoever plays them.

EVERY GAME.

Why?

I don't know why it happens, I just know I believe it does. Did you see the taunting call just now?

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What in the world? Bogus penalty…
Geez. That was the difference in the game quit possibly

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Remarkable.

This league is rigged.

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Absolutely horrible game by the refs. Pretty much every bad call they could make they did - faux roughing, faux taunting against Chicago, faux illegal block against Chicago - missed a real roughing against Pittsburgh. I won't even talk about PIs. 7 points directly impacted in a six point game. Shame on the refs or the league.

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I just want to know why it’s always blatantly in favor of the stoolers.

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NFL loves the Squealers!

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Bears close to scoring!

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Bears ahead for the moment.

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Young Mr. Fields has improved since we played Chicago. TD Da Bears.

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1:46 left for Big Ben and the refs.

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Here comes Old Ben...

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And the extra point puts Chicago ahead by one. COME ON DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I can only imagine what they will do to give this to pits

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Ben with the three yard throws.

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That's that.
Pukesburg & the Refs OVER the Bears.

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Rothlesbrger has no arm. I can’t believe they beat us a little over a week ago.
Pittsburgh is a below average offense with a good defense

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No refs on that drive - poor defense and 2 neutral zone infractions. Chicago beat Chicago (not including the whole refs directly impacting 7)

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29-27 Pittsburg. We should have knocked Boswell into the 30th row last week.

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What do you expect? Pittsburgh and Baltimore always pull out games like this. It's sickening!

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Last night’s game was a fairly blatant attempt by the NFL to keep Pittsburgh afloat in the AFC chase.

Baltimore pulls out games like that because they’re good

Pittsburgh pulls out games like that because they’re favored


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Did you guys also notice the hip check from referee Tony Corrente before he threw the flag for taunting? Saw this last night before I turned off the stupid @#$%@# fixed game and was hoping someone else in the world had noticed by the time I woke up.

That's right, just like high school. Remember that one kid you didn't like so you would nudge your way into a "bump" as you passed in the hall? That was esteemed ref Tony Corrente and just-elevated-to-the-roster Cassius Marsh. Then he pulls the flag and throws it for taunting.

So let's retrace the steps here. It wasn't really taunting but you decided in your little pea-brain that would would only throw the flag if he ran into you (Marsh had long since turned around, jogging back to sideline), since you knew the call was b.s.? So you nudge your way backwards to make sure he "runs into you" to justify your call?

There's no history with Cassius Marsh, no reason to be out to get him, Corrente is obviously just mad because Pig Pen was sacked. There's only one word that can describe what I watched (besides idiot) and it's crystal clear.

BIAS

I know this league is pretty much trash anymore in the way it polices it's refs. In my world, my league, he's offered the standard severance package today. What we saw can only really be seen one way. It stinks like hell and is a total disservice to this game and it's fans.



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The refereeing last night was some of the strangest I’ve ever seen


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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"Strange" is one word.


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The called back Chicago TD was the difference in the game. They called them for a low roll block, that was legal. The problem was he never touched the defender. It was hard watching that game as you knew anytime Chicago had a chance, a flag would be thrown. The taunting penalty was assinine. Wat can jump around and flex towards the opponents, something he always does, and never a taunting call. Chicago got hosed. Even the referee in the booth was dumbfounded on some of the calls. People wonder why Pittsburgh always seem to win at home, this is why.


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If you think the league is purposefully favoring one you should probably stop watching. It’s pro wrestling at that point.

The refs are terrible at their jobs.

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It's funny you say that, I was just about to post asking when do we realize and accept that the NFL is basically just the WWF/WWE?


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Originally Posted by PrplPplEater
It's funny you say that, I was just about to post asking when do we realize and accept that the NFL is basically just the WWF/WWE?

Like I said, if that’s what you think it is, then you should stop watching.

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The Marsh call is getting the most attention, but that call was the real disservice to the game.


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Originally Posted by cfrs15
Originally Posted by PrplPplEater
It's funny you say that, I was just about to post asking when do we realize and accept that the NFL is basically just the WWF/WWE?

Like I said, if that’s what you think it is, then you should stop watching.

I really probably should.
I should also stop going to social media and watching movies/TV shows.

Also, it's entirely possible for things to be getting rigged (or nudged toward an expected outcome) without the league being the one to purposefully favor and without players even being party to it; heck without players OR refs being involved, even). It can also be as simple as individual refs on the take or even betting on games themselves.


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TV and movies admit they are fake. Social media is something we should all quit but we can’t because we are addicted.

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"It can also be as simple as individual refs on the take or even betting on games themselves."

And this is the question. The NFL, even has an "official" sports book. I personally think it is done to keep certain "prize franchises" relevant. Think of it, how many times has Ben been slightly grazed and a flag is thrown, while in the same game the opposing QB will be pummeled by Watt and others after releasing a pass? I see almost all Steeler games, living where I do, and believe me, it happens all the time. Those who want to poo poo this away as some fake conspiracy, probably have not witnessed it as much as many of us do.

So Fields slides late, bad move, but the defender hits him in the back of the head with a full shoulder. The lineman gets called for an illegal roll block, which according to the rules, was not illegal, and changes the point differential by 4 points. The taunting allowed Pittsburgh to get into field goal range. The late hit on Fields would have gave them a first down close to the goal. Instead, they get a FG. These calls directly influenced the scoring in this game.

This is also, one of the few times in my life, where on Facebook and Youtube, even Steeler fans are agreeing that the Bears were robbed.


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Enough Flags have been thrown. Yellow flags,
To ensure Baltimore and Pittsburg are out in front in the AFC North.


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THROW and Steubenvillain:

This is why I've always said that CLE teams need to win their games decisively, so that refs' calls don't swing the our games. It sucks. But it's the world the NFL has created, and it's the world that CLE fans have had to live in since The Return.

If last Sunday's Cleveland Browns team can go out and drop 40+ on a home team division rival with .25-.33 of their starters out, that team needs to start winning games in this fashion all the freakking time.
Because they can.
They've repeatedly shown us that they can.


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Every.
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From here on out.

If they do that, refs can't change a single game they play
That should be the Cleveland Browns' goal.

1-0 this week.
1-0 next week.


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Originally Posted by Steubenvillian
The called back Chicago TD was the difference in the game. .

When in the game did this happen what quarter?



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When did the butt check happen? Im looking at a replay



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I believe it was in the first half. It was the call for the low block, even though it was in the TE box when you watch the replay. It was really a shady call, and one that you hardly ever see called when it's close to the TE box, but it was overshadowed by the Marsh penalty.

They called back the TD as a result of that play and ultimately had to go with the field goal.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
I it was overshadowed by the Marsh penalty.
When is the marsh penalty? I saw the butt check didnt see the taunting part before



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Exactly. And you won’t.


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what quarter?



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Play starts at 3:40 in the 4th.



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The called back TD happened 3rd quarter IIRC


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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This vid has more replay footage and commentary at about 2:05...



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Called back TD for bogus 15 yard low block call...

2nd & Goal at PIT 1
(9:19 - 3rd) A.Bars reported in as eligible. J.Fields pass short right to J.Graham for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN NULLIFIED by Penalty. PENALTY on CHI-J.Daniels, Low Block, 15 yards, enforced at PIT 1 - No Play.


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I guess taunting is more important than holding



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