Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
FYI this is a documentary put together of the event. I had only seen it from the news coverage that day and a few retrospective coverages, like the one involving Babbitt. This was more eye opening to me.
Apologies to the Refs as it does contain some foul language. Feel free to delete if necessary. I just thought I’d post because it’s a news documentary.
I wonder if people really realize what took place?
That if it were any other country at anytime in history. All those people would have been lined up and shot.
Including trump and all those associated with trump.
It is astounding to me how casual people are about an attempt overthrow our government.
The role of trump, bannon, and all of trump's go-fer's, and enablers.
The founding fathers of this country would have labled these people as traitors. They would have been put on trial. Found guilty and executed.
You mean the same founding fathers that the left has cancelled?
Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
You mean the far left subset of people? Or should we lump you in with the likes of Paul Gossert, Marjorie Green Taylor, Jim Jordon and Matt Gaetz in claiming you're all the same?
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You mean the far left subset of people? Or should we lump you in with the likes of Paul Gossert, Marjorie Green Taylor, Jim Jordon and Matt Gaetz in claiming you're all the same?
I am not sure I agree fully with some that you mentioned but I admire Jim Jordan very much. He is from my district. Back when he was at the statehouse in Columbus he stood up against then Republican Governor Taft. I agreed with him then and still do today. He stands with his district. Rails against Federal Government over stepping their bounds.
Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
I mean the people who forged this nation and understood what they wanted to prevent.
Like Socialism? Communism?
Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
Isn't he the guy that enabled the athlete abuser Dr at OSU?
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
I agree with him. They cannot pick and choose what functions are good or bad. Either social distancing/masks work or it does not. That just shows hypocrisy. I have seen many Demoncrats not follow the same standards they force on others. What does that tell you? Government should not have control of people they should work for the people.
Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
I have seen many Demoncrats not follow the same standards they force on others. What does that tell you? Government should not have control of people they should work for the people.
So you haven't seen Republicans not follow standards they force on others? Are you kidding me right now? You seem to have a very hard time telling the difference in a duty to keep Americans safe and control.
Just like how Jordan screams about cancel culture yet never speaks about how Trump called for boycotts of well over 20 companies. That's just one example of standards Republicans set that they don't keep.
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I mean the people who forged this nation and understood what they wanted to prevent.
Like Socialism? Communism?
Those...
Those weren't even around yet. They wanted to prevent monarchy. A society of independently thinking people who hold politicians accountable and are not subject to the whims of any one demagogue.
I also don't see the value in changing the discussion to how a fringe subset of the Left wants to cancel the founding fathers in comparison to what happened. Often times it's painful to deal with issues like January 6th, but we have to, and I mean that in an objective sense. Many - or at least a handful - of Republicans who I respect - one of whom I went to high school with in Cleveland - realize the gravity of that day when viewed objectively.
This isn't even speaking to my views in terms of conservative or liberal. Honestly, based upon platforms and conduct, if someone like Adam Kinzinger went up against Biden for president, I'd vote for Kinzinger. I don't gravitate or defer to the Liberal platform.
You can look at my previous conversations with Pit, too. I actually disagreed with him that Trump really knew what was going to transpire, but the more that gets dug into this whole situation, the more my mind is changing on the matter. I think it's still possible that he was somewhat clueless, but in that case, those close to him (Bannon, Meadows, etc.) or those who want to use him as a vehicle (Boebert) have an even higher level of culpability.
To go on further, had Trump faded away after his presidency the way most former presidents do, and had January 6th not happened, I couldn't care less about what he's doing. However, January 6th did happen, it was serious, we need to figure it out, people close to him are actively resisting subpoenas to the point of being arrested, and he still maintains one hell of a sway on the party that I used to be a part of. We have to keep pulling on this thread.
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I was not a huge Trump fan. I voted for our Governor during the primary in 2016. I now regret that decision since he completely stabbed his followers in the back. I do not like the way Trump acts. As a President he should have been above all that. I did like his policies and thought he was very good deterrent with our enemies and made our so called allies pay their fair share instead of relying solely on us US tax payers. He was very good to organized religion with his policies. Also, incredible with the economy. I did and will again vote for him over any and all Demoncrats. It is just a good vs evil thing with me. I see progressives as the largest threat against good in my life time. I think they are influenced by the spirit of the Anti-Christ.
I plan on voting for Nikki Haley in 2024.
Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
Yeah, we all may very well disagree when it comes to platforms, and that's fine. People should have a healthy debate when it comes to platform issues. Everyone should certainly be allowed their own religious beliefs, too. That's not the problem. The problem, to me, is when those core beliefs turn into blinders.
Day, I won't debate you on calling the Democrats evil. We definitely see it differently and don't agree, but I'd just like to ask, how could you see what unfolded following the election, up to and including January 6th, and not similarly denote the presence of "evil?"
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
Yeah, we all may very well disagree when it comes to platforms, and that's fine. People should have a healthy debate when it comes to platform issues. Everyone should certainly be allowed their own religious beliefs, too. That's not the problem. The problem, to me, is when those core beliefs turn into blinders.
Day, I won't debate you on calling the Democrats evil. We definitely see it differently and don't agree, but I'd just like to ask, how could you see what unfolded following the election, up to and including January 6th, and not similarly denote the presence of "evil?"
It was wrong. I have always called it wrong.
Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
Both sides riot and do wrong. Evil is killing unborn children. Taking peoples freedom's from them. Placing men in bathrooms and dressing rooms with little girls. Etc... There is a difference. I saw riot after riot in 2020. I saw 1 riot on Jan 6th. They are both wrong in my opinion.
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Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
And here I thought each individual made their decision on abortion. I had no idea the democratic party was responsible for a woman's decision. I had no idea they were taking people's freedoms from them either unless you're talking about keeping Americans from dying of covid. What freedoms have the democrats taken from you?
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How about separating kids from their parents and keeping them apart.
Riots that result in damage to property, looting and crime are just that. Criminal.
That however, is not the same as what took place Jan 6th. That was an attempt to overthrow our government. It was an assult on what this country was founded upon. It is why we fought in the war of independence and world wars. It was about the right to vote and have that vote count.
trumps continuous lies about the election prove he is traitor.
He deserves prison at the least. Any support of him is no different than driving the get away car in a robbery.
And here I thought each individual made their decision on abortion. I had no idea the democratic party was responsible for a woman's decision. I had no idea they were taking people's freedoms from them either unless you're talking about keeping Americans from dying of covid. What freedoms have the democrats taken from you?
Socialism / Communism is evil. Telling children to be ashamed of who they are because of skin color. Because of what people 300 years ago did. That is evil. Telling parents they do not have a right in their child's education is evil. Using the DOJ to come against parents is evil. There is much much more...
Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
So what "communism/Socialism are you talking about?
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Telling children to be ashamed of who they are because of skin color. Because of what people 300 years ago did. That is evil. Telling parents they do not have a right in their child's education is evil.
So it's you fear, not fact, that teaching children the entire truth about our nations history will make them ashamed? And you feel parents should decide that it's wrong to teach them our entire history? So you think ones political beliefs is how it should be decided what our children are taught? That it should be slanted based on what history parents want their children to be taught and what parts shouldn't? You do realize that when other nations use this type of selective teaching to indoctrinate their children this way we say they teach them propaganda, right? And you do understand what propaganda is, right?
prop·a·gan·da /ˌpräpəˈɡandə/
information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
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Using the DOJ to come against parents is evil. There is much much more...
You mean the parents who are going around making physical threats of violence against educators and school board members? Those parents? Oh please tell me more.
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You mean the same founding fathers that the left has cancelled?
I need a little help here,, Which of the founding fathers have the left cancelled?
Lefties had Jeffersons marble bust removed from the chambers of the NYC city counsel chambers because he was a slave holder. Why not destroy the Jefferson memorial?
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
You mean the same founding fathers that the left has cancelled?
I need a little help here,, Which of the founding fathers have the left cancelled?
Lefties had Jeffersons marble bust removed from the chambers of the NYC city counsel chambers because he was a slave holder. Why not destroy the Jefferson memorial?
You mean the same founding fathers that the left has cancelled?
I need a little help here,, Which of the founding fathers have the left cancelled?
Lefties had Jeffersons marble bust removed from the chambers of the NYC city counsel chambers because he was a slave holder. Why not destroy the Jefferson memorial?
That's just dumb.. I hate that things like statues have been removed all over the country.. It's our history.. Some of it just isn't all that good,, But it's still our history. Learn from it. Something that isn't happening much today..
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
You mean the same founding fathers that the left has cancelled?
I need a little help here,, Which of the founding fathers have the left cancelled?
Lefties had Jeffersons marble bust removed from the chambers of the NYC city counsel chambers because he was a slave holder. Why not destroy the Jefferson memorial?
Dude needs more than a little help.
Like I said, we should learn from stuff.. Not ignore it. Don't worry Arch, I'll still vote for your family on the Voice.. I trust my judgement..
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“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
How many deaths have been caused by religion? Here's a list of religiously motivated wars and genocides and their death tolls. Let me know if I missed any!
The Crusades: 6,000,000
Thirty Years War: 11,500,000
French Wars of Religion: 4,000,000
Second Sudanese Civil War: 2,000,000
Lebanese Civil War: 250,000
Muslim Conquests of India: 80,000,000
Congolese Genocide (King Leopold II): 13,000,000
Armenian Genocide: 1,500,000
Rwandan Genocide: 800,000
Eighty Years' War: 1,000,000
Nigerian Civil War: 1,000,000
Great Peasants' Revolt: 250,000
First Sudanese Civil War: 1,000,000
Jewish Diaspora (Not Including the Holocaust): 1,000,000
The Holocaust (Jewish and Homosexual Deaths): 6,500,000
Islamic Terrorism Since 2000: 150,000
Iraq War: 500,000
US Western Expansion (Justified by "Manifest Destiny"):20,000,000
Atlantic Slave Trade (Justified by Christianity): 14,000,000
Aztec Human Sacrifice: 80,000
AIDS deaths in Africa largely due to opposition to condoms: 30,000,000
Spanish Inquisition: 5,000
TOTAL: 195,035,000 deaths in the name of religion.
It's so sad we don't have statues of Hitler so we will never learn the history of WW2. Having a statue in places owned by the public is an honor of that person. A celebration of that person. If you actually think those who led troops into battle to keep slavery alive deserve to be held in a place of honor, I think we have a totally different perspective about who needs to be honored.
Sure the radical wing of the Democrats goes too far sometimes.The entire Jefferson thing is one such example of it. They are the squeaky wheel that do not represent the majority of those who vote Democrat in this country.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
It's so sad we don't have statues of Hitler so we will never learn the history of WW2. Having a statue in places owned by the public is an honor of that person. A celebration of that person. If you actually think those who led troops into battle to keep slavery alive deserve to be held in a place of honor, I think we have a totally different perspective about who needs to be honored.
Sure the radical wing of the Democrats goes too far sometimes.The entire Jefferson thing is one such example of it. They are the squeaky wheel that do not represent the majority of those who vote Democrat in this country.
It is sad,, when you break it down, extremes of either party are the problem in America.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot