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Ravens fall to Pit!

At first I thought, Wow thats a ballsy call. Then I thought, No that was just stupid. What were they thinking?!?!? Theres gonna be some pissed off Ravens fans.

Ugh. Needed the rats to lose. But i need a shower after rooting for the stoolers to beat those scumbags.

The Steelers proved something. Late in the game, you can run on the Ravens. I don't know if we could have last week, but they did it today. It fueled their game winning drive. I wanted to see the Steelers lose, but them winning helps. Our offense needs to step up next week or all bets are off.

Rooting for one of these teams over the other is like choosing how you want to be executed.

AFC North
Ravens 8-4
Bengals 7-5
Steelers 6-5-1
Browns 6-6

Wk 14
Ravens @ Browns
Steelers @ Vikings
49ers @ Bengals

What I hope is the outcome
Ravens 8-5
Browns 7-6
Bengals 7-6
Steelers 6-6-1

makes me sick

Thank you Harbaugh but the Browns MUST beat the Ravens next week! Baker better be on point and we need to RUN the ball!

Agreed +1

The Ravens will stack the box and the Browns will lose...

Yeah, part that ticks me off the most is if we just would have sat Conklin two more weeks we would have him this upcoming weekend. Stefanski and the medical staff destroyed that chance though

What? It was a totally different injury. He returned from an elbow injury and went down with a torn patellar tendon.

Actually, it turned out to be a good call as Andrews was open for 2. All they needed was a QB with a bit of accuracy. Yes, there will be some pissed off Ravens fans, and it was a ballsy call. Poor execution by the QB does not change that.

I wouldnt want our coach making that call. Take the xp and go to OT.

Stefanskis choice

We beating the ravens next week?

Good news is their star CB Marlon Humphrey is now out for the year, so that secondary should be more exposed as theyve struggled all year (mostly due to other injuries in that secondary) Baker needs to be big and tear that secondary up.

Do you have a better chance at winning if you have the ball at the two and need to score or win a coin flip and/or stop the other team and score? I’m going for two every time.

J/c

I’ve never seen the AFC so wide open and crazy. It’s just a mass of 10-12 teams right around each other. The Chargers and Steelers losses doom us, but we still have a small chance

So we can take advantage of their poor secondary like we did last time?

That's why the medical staff has a magic 8-ball.

I was rooting for the ravens loss the entire first half, because I didn't want to see, (I forget.) But then in the 2nd half I remembered that x-x-(and 1) tie thing, would put the pittspuke team ahead of the Browns in winning percentage at some point maybe the last week of the year,
so at the end I was really hoping to see a pittsb urgh loss. Then I thought about it, after seeing that 2 point attempt,

Well, it's the NFL, in most cases, (shoo't) in 20 years worth of games, nobody does that, the last time somebody would go for two instead of go for overtime in that situation would have been college teams in the 1980's or earlier.
So WHY would it happen.

Let's consider, We (mostly know) the league hates OHIO, and the Browns because they hate Cleveland specifically, from their hoity toity new /ork offices. And, the Ravens, know, they are all but guaranteed a playoff berth (even Win or Lose), because the league will manufacture wins for them, like the league has manufactured wins for the steelers this year.

The, Steelers were manufactured wins by the leagure, in the, Chicago game, with the (stare at the sideline keep the drive alive for 3 points penalty for taunting by only, looking cross eyed at a rich fella, actually staring at a sideline after a sack in the bears steeler game.)
I think the refs manufactured some calls to give Pittsburgh the tie vs the lions.
and probably another one, so that's 2.5 wins vs. losses in the pittsburhs record colum,
JUST BECAUSE THE LEAGUE LIKES TO SEE balt, and piggs come out of the AFC north playoff hopes because they hate ohio.

Now the Browns had calls go against them wrongly in the Chiefs, game, the Chargers game, the Bears game, (the jets roster blockage and calls in the giants game last year)
and they had their ny media jesters, spend months trying to talk the browns into waiving OBJ. (after OBJ was waived they switched back to trying to talk the browns into waiving Baker.)

And if they are ever successful they'd start again trying to talk the browns into waiving Myles Garrett, (see they Hate Ohio sports like who knows what)

All this to say, ... after all was almost done in that pig and balt game, the league offices probably said, ... well how can we manufacture a way to screw the ohio teams, Cleveland specifically here???
well, if you give pittsburg a win they didn't earn, then that tie x x and 1, keeps them .5 games into a playoff berth near crunch time

Not only that, but Baltimore might agree. Baltimore can say , worse comes to worse we're prolly still winning the div. (they saw the Bengal result from 1 hour before,)
So, ... if the Ravens , go for 2 they either get a win , OR, help a less talented Pitspuke team stay ahead of Cleveland, in the race for 2nd place in the division,
which gets the rats one chance closer to not having to face the more talented Browns in a playoff game,

The steelers did it last year after 11-0, the ravens did it yesterday. Losing to keep a weaker opp. alive in the division race with the hope of not facing a stronger opponent by hoping the stronger opponent stumbles and doesn't get a playoff berth.
... ... even more confusing, I know.

Plus. The league, knows, ... the Baltimore over the chiefs win in week 1 or 2, puts the ravens ahead of tie breakers, plus the balt win over la chargers, who beat, the chiefs beat the browns, hhave still to play the bengals, .. and the la chargers beat now, both the bengals and the browns. (ALL UNDERSTAND IF THE LEAGUE HAS A HOPE IT'S TO KEEP BOTH OHIO TEAMS OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS, )
and the league could look, well, if the ravens lose (yesterday) it is the best way to keep the aFC north with still a tiny chance that the ravens and steelers come out of it and some Hollywood producer thinks that would be swell.

So, when pitspuke was unable to stop the ravnes offense and they scored to tie, the league offices prolly called down to both sidelines and said, (hey go for 2 here because that's the best way to screw the ohio teams, )

and if Baltimore u don't make it, no worries, we'll help ya out, in a future game with the refs calls. wink wink.

I didn't see him hesitate at all in the limited times he got loose against us. What I did see was him not given very many opportunities to run. That's not him it's scheme and execution.

I understand going for 2 because you're on the road and Pitts offense woke up in the 2nd half. It was a good play call too, but TJ Watt went straight after Jackson and wrecked the timing on his throw to Andrews. He forced Jackson to double clutch and throw off target. Too bad, so sad.

I would say that I normally would not take that risk if I'm Baltimore, for 2 reasons: 1) I have Lamar Jackson, and 2) I have Justin Tucker.

Yeah, that situation is always easier to handle in hindsight. If you make the conversion you look like a genius, if not you are the scapegoat. Given the Raven's weapons I'd have gone for 2 and set it up to leverage the QB running. Having him throw the ball is where they failed.

Not sure if it was mentioned, but Harbaugh also said his CB situation had him worried if Pitt won the OT coin toss.

Agreed. To win a game, first order of business is to make sure you are still playing in it. Play for it in the fifth quarter. Happy the Rats lost.

I do not want anything good to happen for either team. My solution is to root for whoever is on defense to beat the turtles out of the other guys. We need to punish Lamar. Hope our offense shows up. The three tights hasn't produced enough.

Some criticism was leveled at MG because he went up to Lamar J. after he made a big gain on us. Yesterday TJ Watt did the same thing to Lamar and nothing was said about it.

bro stop. its ok to be wrong. i admit when im wrong about players all the time. like i completely whiffed on josh allen.

lamar has got his team to the playoffs every season, multiple division titles, and an MVP season.


and you gonna rip a dude for being ticked off that him and his team didnt execute well? man, that way you talk about lamar, one would think baker mayfield has a winning record against him or something...

lamar beat us even with him throwing 4 picks. so if hes not a good QB, by your logic, that means baker is hot garbage.

right?

I did not watch much of the game, so I did not see Watt do that. I think it was wrong when Myles did it, and I think it was wrong of Watt to do it. But I do not care much what Watt, or any of his teammates, do.

Baltimore beat us by taking away the run and we had no answer for it. In no way do I think Lamar was the reason we lost.

I didn't (and don't) pile on Myles, but the main difference is that Watt had a career day and was playing like a man possessed. Myles, on the other hand, played well enough. Also, it didn't help that Clowney was also playing like his hair was on fire.

so our QB couldnt win when the run is taken away from him? how come lamar is still at the top of the division despite having a worse o line and on backup RB's? does josh allen need a run game to win?

dont most defense try to stop the run and make a QB pass? thats why you draft a QB #1 overall, right? to carry teams to W's when they take away something you do well?

i really wish i could complain about our QB leading a TD drive at the end of the game and just coming up short on a 2 point attempt.

but that would be nice. by the way, the "running" QB has now led more game tying/winning drives in the 4th quarter than baker mayfield, the pocket passer.

make it make sense.

I think both Clowney and Garrett would say otherwise.

The Ravens did not beat us because of Lamar. They beat us because of their defense. They SHOULD HAVE LOST because of Lamar, but their defense bailed him out FOUR times by preventing us from getting even a single point off turnovers.

Well he was 27-37 with an equal number of TD's to INT'S. So not quite all bad.

and who was the QB that couldnt get any points against that defense?

dance around it all you want. most GM's in this league will take a lamar jackson in a slump over a healthy baker mayfield.

remember, my original comment was to Tab. so if lamar isnt a good QB, by that logic, what does that make baker....

all these post and nobody wants to answer that question. interesting.