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Well, of course.
I mean, what's the fun of a bs-free Browns season?


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That greatly decreases our odds of making the playoffs. The timing couldn't be worse.


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Hudson and Hance at tackles, and who would play guard? And will Schwartz ever be back? This is frightening. Odd the defense is almost unscathed.

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Hooper and Teller will miss the Raider game for the 2nd year in a row. ?
Who is starting at TE? Bugs bunny?

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as if the offense needed any more obstacles.. be lucky to get a FG this game....Hudson and Hance at tackles...you couldn't go out there and find worse if you tried. Hudson has no business even in the league. I can't believe we keep putting him out there with an injured Baker as it is.


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The Browns Browning as usual. Browns season officially over now.

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By most of the accounts I heard and read, Hudson played pretty well Sunday.

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Originally Posted by leadtheway
be lucky to get a FG this game.


Who's going to kick the field goal? The guy that is currently the place kicker WON'T!

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The defensive backfield will mostly be in tact? (tack??)
If Takk McKinley is out would that give our good friend Taki Taki more playing time?
Will the Browns be able to utilize the full group of linebackers except for Takk McKinley, including Ifeadi Obifumu, and will Porter Gustin play?
edit https://www.si.com/nfl/browns/news/8-players-to-covid-list
I read 8 Browns players on the Covid list, for having 8 players on the covid list those 6, +2 didn't seem like the most damaging group that could have, what I mean is it's not like they all 8 played running back or something.

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Originally Posted by Dave
By most of the accounts I heard and read, Hudson played pretty well Sunday.
he did not..they had Hance playing TE on that side to help as well but from PFF
"The rookie didn't blow away the Baltimore Ravens front seven with his performance in Cleveland's 24-22 win on Sunday, but he held up just enough. According to PFF, Hudson finished with a 44.5 overall grade. That was second-worst on the Browns offensive line, and his team-low 28.7 run-blocking grade played the biggest part." And now hooper out and wills out so Hance will have to play T. Not ideal for sure, just hope Stefanski stops being an idiot and just concentrates on making the run game work so baker lives to fight another day. LV defense isn't anything to right home about, we should be able to win by playing defense and running the ball and a short passing game to the backs. Hunt being able to go would be huge


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Originally Posted by leadtheway
Originally Posted by Dave
By most of the accounts I heard and read, Hudson played pretty well Sunday.
According to PFF, Hudson finished with a 44.5 overall grade. That was second-worst on the Browns offensive line....

I love how you casually gloss over the fact that one of Bitonio, Tretter, Teller, or Wills had a lower rating than our 4th (or 5th?) string rookie tackle in his second NFL game.

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I think all of that goes to show, that PFF can kiss all of our burrow(s) when the Browns go out and win the game on Saturday.
PFF can look at one on one matchups blah blah,
but all 11 people on the field, take and do something at the snap, and what matters is, was it a positive play, and what's the score at the end of the game.
I'd take ELEVEN GUYS, with a 44 ranking, that go down the field and score a TOUCHDOWN, and Pff can go blow it out their hee haw! Horn honking!!
I'm all for getting right behind James Hudson.
Run it right behind James Hudson's block!!! Set up punch, set up Bump, Set up SMASH!
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Originally Posted by oobernoober
Originally Posted by leadtheway
Originally Posted by Dave
By most of the accounts I heard and read, Hudson played pretty well Sunday.
According to PFF, Hudson finished with a 44.5 overall grade. That was second-worst on the Browns offensive line....

I love how you casually gloss over the fact that one of Bitonio, Tretter, Teller, or Wills had a lower rating than our 4th (or 5th?) string rookie tackle in his second NFL game.

Hint. It wasn’t Bitonio, Teller, or Tretter.

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Originally Posted by oobernoober
Originally Posted by leadtheway
Originally Posted by Dave
By most of the accounts I heard and read, Hudson played pretty well Sunday.
According to PFF, Hudson finished with a 44.5 overall grade. That was second-worst on the Browns offensive line....

I love how you casually gloss over the fact that one of Bitonio, Tretter, Teller, or Wills had a lower rating than our 4th (or 5th?) string rookie tackle in his second NFL game.

because I was talking about Hudson. And he had a ton of help, and wills was ranked lower, but he's been pretty bad this year so it isn't that big of news


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Baker is Just going to have to throw the ball to his first read, and hit on the 2 minute offense.
Now, I know we haven't seen that in 20 years, but, it is still possible, other teams do it every week.


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Originally Posted by leadtheway
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By most of the accounts I heard and read, Hudson played pretty well Sunday.
According to PFF, Hudson finished with a 44.5 overall grade. That was second-worst on the Browns offensive line....

I love how you casually gloss over the fact that one of Bitonio, Tretter, Teller, or Wills had a lower rating than our 4th (or 5th?) string rookie tackle in his second NFL game.

because I was talking about [a rookie 4/5th-stringer playing his second NFL game and comparing him to PB-level starters]. And he had a ton of help, and wills was ranked lower, but he's been pretty bad this year so it isn't that big of news


FIFY. Context and common sense makes all the difference.


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Originally Posted by cfrs15
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Originally Posted by Dave
By most of the accounts I heard and read, Hudson played pretty well Sunday.
According to PFF, Hudson finished with a 44.5 overall grade. That was second-worst on the Browns offensive line....

I love how you casually gloss over the fact that one of Bitonio, Tretter, Teller, or Wills had a lower rating than our 4th (or 5th?) string rookie tackle in his second NFL game.

Hint. It wasn’t Bitonio, Teller, or Tretter.

Good to know, but besides the point.


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unreal..... Raiders were a hard game to begin with... this really doesn't help


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And it's only Tuesday.


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Next man up ! OH crap ! next 8 men up ! It is what it is... win it or lose it.. 33 players make up a winning team ! If this team wants a championship the'll have to figure it out.. Covid and injuries are apart of this game now for all teams unfortunately !

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Why can’t these guys protect themselves? My 78-year-old mom is more diligent - and apparently wiser - than these guys.

Geez, did they not learn anything from last season? We should have been in high-risk protocol or whatever the hell its called, two or three weeks ago.

Now we need a minor miracle to win on Saturday. Teller AND Wills out? Mercy.


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Originally Posted by DaveyD
And it's only Tuesday.
This is my worry. As we saw last year, cases could continue to trickle in


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Originally Posted by Dave
By most of the accounts I heard and read, Hudson played pretty well Sunday.

Why you can't go by the crying waa waa guys. Hudson doesn't deserve to be in the NFL meanwhile he held his own on sunday and we are talking about what a 6th round pick rookie? Doesn't belong in the NFL Pffft my goodness have you got no pride and you are fans not playing just watching have a little faith and back our guys and don't give me any crap about how you've been backing them all your life.

Guess what we will have top rely on our defense and try to get a running game going like we had prior to the two games with the Ravens as they shut our running game down. We got the best OL coach out there so we will not just dominate via the OL.. Our QB will have to scramble these eggs like he has all season long. We might find a kid like Bradley who has surprised me so far as in he has hands and doesn't drop the ball. Maybe Higgins can come out of his doghouse and dominate with DPJ. Harrison Bryant and Njoku will they get over their injuries in time? meanwhile a few might overcome the Covid protocol and be there for the game.

But outside of Takk we are pretty healthy and ready to go on D and we got a pretty good Defense so lets see if things square up but for crimminey sake stop this whining - it sucks and it takes a very possible win out of ore hands and into one we will have to fight for tooth and nails. Baker will fight - our defense is ready to fight. Lets get the running game going and dominate again!

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Are the Raiders missing anyone due to COVID?

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Are the Raiders missing anyone due to COVID?

No. Not as of now anyways. They seem to be relatively healthy. Compared to us anyways


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Mike Priefer is back ..


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Mike Priefer is back ..




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People getting their wish of AVP calling the plays!

Should be fun when the players go through their round of testing today. Oy vey.

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Well, much like how we could see how our offense plays w/o OBJ (again), we might get to see how our offense plays while in the hands of AVP (again).

I'd rather we have everyone, but I'll admit I'm curious to see how the offense responds given some of the flack KS gets with his playcalls.


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This may indicate that there will be more positives today frown


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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People getting their wish of AVP calling the plays!

Should be fun when the players go through their round of testing today. Oy vey.


If he has any players left by game time to call plays for...


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J/c…


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I would think Keenum will also test positive. Hopefully not but not sure it really matters at this point


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Are we in forfeit the game territory yet?

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Forfeit? Not with Nick Mullins on the squad! Get used to “Mullins to Cager….touchdown!!”

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Are we in forfeit the game territory yet?
Not unless we have an outbreak of unvaccinated players...


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