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You guys are funny.Year and a half later and you are still running around with your hair on fire. Who do you lefties think Republicans should vote for? Biden , Kamela, AOC ? and you call us traders?

I have never called you a trader. I might have said traitor, traitorous, or even nincompoop… but never trader. And you should vote for whom you want. We just wish you could see truth and become an educated voter before casting your vote for the worst people on earth. And we don't care if you are republican or not, as long as you are not a Trumpian insurrectionist trying to bring down our democracy. You still have the right to vote for whom you want, we just want that person to be part of a party that still fights for and works to make our democracy a better place. That's not who the Republican Party is right now. Nope, they think insurrections are normal political discourse.

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Guess that old “times up” shtick isn't going to catch on this time around. It's almost as if some people attempted a coup and expect time to just blow it all away quietly. Funny how reality never sinks all the way in with these people.


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Originally Posted by Dawg Duty
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You guys are funny.Year and a half later and you are still running around with your hair on fire. Who do you lefties think Republicans should vote for? Biden , Kamela, AOC ? and you call us traders?

I have never called you a trader. I might have said traitor, traitorous, or even nincompoop… but never trader. And you should vote for whom you want. We just wish you could see truth and become an educated voter before casting your vote for the worst people on earth. And we don't care if you are republican or not, as long as you are not a Trumpian insurrectionist trying to bring down our democracy. You still have the right to vote for whom you want, we just want that person to be part of a party that still fights for and works to make our democracy a better place. That's not who the Republican Party is right now. Nope, they think insurrections are normal political discourse.

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Yes, that happens. Meh, it was either me or any number of others.


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What do you call someone who tries to overthrow an election that was proven in the courts to be valid?

His oath of office is to perform the transfer of power when the election is proven valid.

Then he did everything possible to corrupt the election and take control of the office of the presidency. Then he incited others to storm the capitol and take over the election process.

Have read the Constitution?

If that is not treason what is?

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What do you call someone who tries to overthrow an election that was proven in the courts to be valid?

His oath of office is to perform the transfer of power when the election is proven valid.

Then he did everything possible to corrupt the election and take control of the office of the presidency. Then he incited others to storm the capitol and take over the election process.

Have read the Constitution?

If that is not treason what is?

It sounds like you are describing nothing more than "legitimate political discourse"


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Jan. 6 rioter who pleaded guilty dies by suicide ahead of sentencing

A Pennsylvania man who last year pleaded guilty to multiple charges in connection with the Jan. 6 Capitol attack killed himself last week while awaiting trial.

As the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported, the Mercer County Coroner's office confirmed on Tuesday that Matt Perna had died by suicide. He was 37 years old.

Perna's family said he died of a "broken heart," and partly blamed the government and the prosecution for his death, per the Post-Gazette.

"His community, which he loved, his country and the justice system killed his spirit and his zest for life," Perna's obituary read, according to the outlet. "The constant delays in hearings and postponements dragged out for over a year. Because of this, Matt's heart broke and his spirit died and many people are responsible for the pain he endured."

According to court documents, Perna travelled to Washington, D.C., from Pennsylvania on Jan. 6 to attend the "Stop the Steal" rally that preceded the attack on the Capitol.

At around 2:47 p.m., Perna, who was wearing a "Make America Great Again" sweatshirt, entered the Capitol through the Senate Wing door and stayed inside the building for about 20 minutes, taking video of the crowd while inside, per court documents. Following the Capitol breach, Perna uploaded a video on social media saying, "The purpose of today was to expose Pence as a traitor."

Perna's family said he went to the rally on Jan. 6 to "peacefully stand up for his beliefs" and claimed that he was "ushered in" by police officers, according to the Post-Gazette, though prosecutors accused him of entering a building he knew he did not have permission to enter.

"For this act he has been persecuted by many members of his community, friends, relatives and people who had never met him," Perna's obituary read, according to the outlet.

Perna pleaded guilty to all four charges he faced, including obstruction of an official proceeding, in December. His sentencing had been set for April 1.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...oter-dies-by-suicide-ahead-of-sentencing

So he takes part in a traitorous insurrection, trying to end our democracy, then offs himself. Now the family blames prosecutors, the criminal justice system, and people who didn't commit treason for his death. PFFFT.

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Did he know Jeffrey Epstein?

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One pled guilty to seditious conspiracy, said he did it, and was with Roger Stone in the AM on January 6th. That's a bit of a BOMBSHELL.

Then this one too.



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So guilty.

Guilty of being a traitor. Of course he knew he lost.

Just like he knew covid would kill thousands of citizens and he knew it when lied to the people.

Get me the votes I need to win in Georgia.

He is a criminal.

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No wonder the GOP and the Putin Loving Trump supporters didn't want a Jan 6th committee.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/03/politics/trump-january-6-committee-eastman-email/index.html

On January 6 at 12:14 pm ET, as it was becoming increasingly clear that there was a Trump-inspired riot brewing at the US Capitol, Jacob was unequivocal in his rejection of Eastman’s theories.

“I have run down every legal trail placed before me to its conclusion, and I respectfully conclude that as a legal framework, it is a results-oriented position that you would never support if attempted by the opposition, and essentially entirely made up,” Jacob wrote Eastman. “And thanks to your [censored], we are now under siege.”

To which Eastman responds: “The ‘siege’ is because YOU and your boss did not do what was necessary to allow this to be aired in a public way so the American people can see for themselves what happened.”

In his next response, Jacob drops the hammer: “The advice provided has, whether intended or not, functioned as a serpent in the ear of the President of the United States, the most powerful office in the entire world. And here we are.”

Jacob went on:

“Respectfully, it was gravely, gravely irresponsible for you to entice the President with an academic theory that had no legal viability, and that you well know we would lose before any judge who heard and decided the case. And if the courts declined to hear it, I suppose it could only be decided in the streets. The knowing amplification of that theory through numerous surrogates, whipping large numbers of people into a frenzy over something with no chance of ever attaining legal force through actual process of law, has led us to where we are.

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Trumps got this… rolleyes

Just hope he gets his, and it's not just his worker bees going down.


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Just one more Rino.

I think we all watched as Trump tried to use the office of the AG as his own personal lawyer.. So while some might think of Barr as a RINO (a name put forth by Jeff Christy as a form of Name Calling.. Something Trumpians do when they can't think of anything else to say.), I think this is the most responsible thing he could do... Yeah, he's doing it because he's got a book coming out.. I get that. But it still takes courage to do it because we know how Trump is,, he'll sue the crap out of Barr... He won't win, but he will sue.. For sure

The only thing I'm disappointed about is that he didn't speak up before. He knew he was being used as a tool by Trump...


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yeah I agree.

Barr was a POS with regard to the disgraceful lies he told regarding the Muller Report. He certainly allowed the office to be abused by Trump on multiple occasions.

It seems Barr, Pence and a few others who I still do not personally 'like' reached a point where King trump keep pushing the boundaries. Kept abusing his office and authority. And eventually they said "that's a step too far".

I think Barr's reputation forever needs to be tarnished as a POS lackey to Trump. But yes - thankfully he reached a point where he knew there was no "plausible deniability" angle to the outright lies Trump wanted to peddle.


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He certainly didn't all-of-a-sudden develop a conscience and a backbone.


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Texas militia man found guilty on five charges in government's first court victory from Capitol riot

WASHINGTON–A federal court jury delivered guilty verdicts Tuesday against a Texas militia man on all five criminal counts in a case stemming from the deadly Jan. 6 Capitol attack, including interfering with the certification of the 2020 election, in the first jury trial to emerge from the government’s far-reaching investigation of the insurrection.

Guy Wesley Reffitt, 49, looked on as the decisions were read, concluding a fast-moving case in which prosecutors portrayed the Wylie, Texas oil industry worker, as a leader of a violent mob that overwhelmed police lines just outside the Senate chamber.

The jury reached its decision after less than three hours of deliberation. Reffitt's sentencing was scheduled for June 8.

Reffitt faces a maximum punishment of 20 years for each of the two obstruction-related offenses; and a maximum of 10 years for entering restricted grounds with a firearm. Each of the two civil disorder convictions carry a maximum of five years in prison.

For the government, the verdicts marked a successful first test of evidence and witnesses before a jury whose members were drawn from neighborhoods in close proximity to the Capitol, which had been transformed into a battlefield on Jan. 6.

And for other Jan. 6 defendants, including 10 members of the extremist Oath Keepers group accused of seditious conspiracy, the Reffitt case will likely be viewed as a template of sorts as those defendants ultimately determine whether to challenge the most serious charges leveled so far before other D.C. juries.

In the case of Reffitt, a member of the paramilitary Three Percenters, prosecutors drew on reels of surveillance video, testimony from Capitol Police officers, a fellow militia member and the defendant's estranged son to portray a rioter described as the "tip of this mob's spear."

Reffitt, prosecutors said, planned his excursion to D.C. for days and then plunged into the crowd with a handgun holstered to his waist while talking of physically removing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

"We’re taking the Capitol before the day is over," Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Nestler said, referring to messages the defendant allegedly sent to associates.

"I just want to see Pelosi’s head hitting every f------ stair on the way out," Reffitt allegedly boasted in another message.

Reffitt's attorney, William Welch, told jurors that his client was merely prone to hyperbole, suggesting that his involvement was more talk than action.

"Guy does brag a lot," Welch said, repeating a theme from his opening statement last week. "He uses a lot of hyperbole that upsets people. People say outrageous things."

Welch called no witnesses for the defense, with Reffitt electing not to testify. But the attorney called on jurors to closely scrutinize government witnesses, including another Three Percenter, Rocky Hardie, who is cooperating with the government as part of an immunity agreement. Hardie traveled with Reffitt to Washington and detailed his preparations, including the firearms they brought with them.

"You should doubt Rocky Hardie," Welch said, adding the witness would "say whatever he has to say" to avoid prosecution himself.

Welch also questioned the testimony offered by Reffitt's son, who the attorney claimed was unsure whether his father's threats should be taken seriously.

Capitol Police officers, meanwhile, painted a damning image of the defendant, repeatedly identifying him as leading a screaming mob up an outside Capitol stairway.

"It was a really bad situation," Sgt. Matthew Flood told jurors, describing his arrival on a landing area as the crowd advanced. He said "hundreds" of rioters had already breached the security perimeter when he and other officers arrived.

Almost immediately, Flood said that a fellow officer identified Reffitt, at the front of the pack, waving rioters forward.

"The person in the blue jacket was the problem," Flood said, referring to his colleague's description of Reffitt, also outfitted in a bullet-proof vest and tactical helmet, who continued to move forward even after officers launched non-lethal projectiles at the defendant.

"He was in front; he was leading them up the stairs," Flood said.

Fearing for the safety of lawmakers, Flood said he eventually left the front lines to evacuate members of Congress.

Capitol Police Sgt. Adam DesCamp, who joined Flood and another officer, said Reffitt repeatedly ignored commands to stop.

"Don't be a traitor, let us in," Reffitt called out at one point, DesCamp testified Monday. "You can't stop us all."

This article originally appeared on USA TODAY: Texas man found guilty on five federal charges in first Jan. 6 trial

https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-militia-man-found-guilty-185745123.html


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Ex-Proud Boys Leader Enrique Tarrio Arrested in Miami in Connection With Capitol Riot

Tarrio, 38, was indicted on conspiracy and other charges in the Capitol breach, U.S. Department of Justice officials said

The former leader of the right-wing Proud Boys was arrested in Miami Tuesday morning in connection with the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol riot.

The attorney for Enrique Tarrio confirmed he was taken into custody at a home on Northwest 2nd Street where the FBI and other law enforcement were conducting a raid.

Tarrio, 38, was indicted on one count of each conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and obstruction of an official proceeding, as well as two counts each of assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers and destruction of government property in the Capitol breach, U.S. Department of Justice officials said.

Tarrio appeared in federal court in Miami Tuesday, where he was appointed a public defender after his attorney had a conflict of interest.

He's due back in court Friday when a judge will determine whether he'll be given a bond.

Tarrio wasn't at the Capitol on Jan. 6. Police had arrested him in Washington two days before the riot and charged him with vandalizing a Black Lives Matter banner at a historic Black church during a protest in December 2020.

The day before the Capitol was attacked, a judge ordered Tarrio to stay out of Washington. He later served a five-month sentence in that case.

The indictment claims Tarrio led the advance planning and remained in contact with other members of the Proud Boys during their breach of the Capitol.

The indictment also alleges that Tarrio claimed credit for what had happened on social media and in an encrypted chat room during and after the attack.

After his release from jail earlier this year, Tarrio told NBC 6 that if he hadn’t been arrested, he would have been at the Capitol that day and that he would have stopped the Proud Boys from participating in any violence.

“I don’t agree with or condone what happened at the Capitol when it comes to the violence,” Tarrio said. “We went to Washington D.C. with the intent of sitting there and supporting President Trump and then drink beer after, and obviously, I wasn’t there and I can’t tell you what was in their heads, but I think the mob mentality just took over.”

The new riot-related charges are among the most serious filed so far, but they aren’t the first of their kind. Eleven members or associates of the anti-government Oath Keepers militia group, including its founder and leader Stewart Rhodes, were charged on Jan. 12 with seditious conspiracy in the Capitol attack.

More than three dozen people charged in the Capitol siege have been identified by federal authorities as Proud Boys leaders, members or associates.

A New York man pleaded guilty in December to storming the U.S. Capitol with fellow Proud Boys members. Matthew Greene was the first Proud Boys member to publicly plead guilty to conspiring with other members to stop Congress from certifying the Electoral College vote. Greene agreed to cooperate with authorities.

On the morning of Jan. 6, Proud Boys members met at the Washington Monument and marched to the Capitol before then-President Donald Trump finished speaking to thousands of supporters near the White House.

Just before Congress convened a joint session to certify the election results, a group of Proud Boys followed a crowd of people who breached barriers at a pedestrian entrance to the Capitol grounds, an indictment says. Several Proud Boys also entered the Capitol building itself after the mob smashed windows and forced open doors.

Prosecutors have said the Proud Boys arranged for members to communicate using specific frequencies on Baofeng radios. The Chinese-made devices can be programmed for use on hundreds of frequencies, making them difficult for outsiders to eavesdrop.

In December, a federal judge refused to dismiss an earlier indictment charging four alleged leaders of the far-right Proud Boys with conspiracy. U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly rejected defense attorneys’ arguments that the four men — Ethan Nordean, Joseph Biggs, Zachary Rehl and Charles Donohoe — were charged with conduct that is protected by the First Amendment right to free speech.

Nordean, Biggs, Rehl and Donohoe remain jailed while awaiting a trial scheduled for May.

Nordean, of Auburn, Washington, was a Proud Boys chapter president and member of the group’s national “Elders Council.” Biggs, of Ormond Beach, Florida, is a self-described Proud Boys organizer. Rehl was president of the Proud Boys chapter in Philadelphia. Donohoe, of Kernersville, North Carolina, also served as president of his local chapter, according to the indictment.

Proud Boys members describe the group as a politically incorrect men’s club for “Western chauvinists.” Its members frequently have brawled with antifascist activists at rallies and protests. Vice Media co-founder Gavin McInnes, who founded the Proud Boys in 2016, sued the Southern Poverty Law Center for labeling it as a hate group.

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local...in-connection-with-capitol-riot/2708518/


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Isolated: New Heat On Clarence Thomas Over Wife's MAGA Rally Admission



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Additional Targets Of January 6th Revealed | Zerlina.


How are the Thomas family not under investigation?


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It's astonishing how stupid some people can be. She knows who she is and who her husband is, and how his job is supposed to be as non-politically leaning as possible.

Why can't she just support her side via shady backroom deals that nobody hears about like the rest of our ruling elite?


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Bro, I think we’ve entered an era where people just can’t help themselves. It might have something to do with how they witness other people getting away with proverbial murder.


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https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/23/mo-brooks-says-trump-asked-him-to-rescind-election-remove-biden.html

Rep. Mo Brooks of Alabama on Wednesday said Donald Trump had asked him to “rescind” the 2020 presidential election, “remove” President Joe Biden from his office, “immediately put” Trump back in the White House and hold a new special presidential election.

Brooks said in a statement that he had drawn Trump’s “ire” by telling the former president that his plan was not legal.

The congressman later told NBC News that Trump proposed the series of events to restore him to the presidency after Sept. 1, more than seven months after Biden’s inauguration on Jan. 20, 2021.

Trump earlier Wednesday said he was withdrawing an endorsement of Brooks in May’s GOP primary for one of Alabama’s U.S. Senate seats.

Trump cited Brooks’ call for Republicans to move on from the 2020 presidential election and to focus on winning races this year and in 2024.

Brooks made that suggestion at a Trump rally seven months ago. Trump since November 2020 has falsely claimed that he actually defeated Biden, but was swindled out of a second term in the White House by widespread ballot fraud in several swing states.

“I repeat what has prompted President Trump’s ire,” Brooks said in his prepared statement later Wednesday responding to Trump’s decision to pull his endorsement.

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It's astonishing how stupid some people can be. She knows who she is and who her husband is, and how his job is supposed to be as non-politically leaning as possible.

Why can't she just support her side via shady backroom deals that nobody hears about like the rest of our ruling elite?


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https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/01/31/is-ginni-thomas-a-threat-to-the-supreme-court

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I had read an article recently about Ginni and the potential issues her activism might raise. If I get a chance I need to circle back and read your link fully. I started but it's a long, long piece smile


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It should be important....

But in this day and age with people distracted by the bright shiny object - with the disinformation - the entire RIGHT will deflect, deny, ignore, lie.

Of course the problem is - having listened to the whole thing ... there is a lot of very disturbing information and factually stuff that should be cause for alarm and monitoring ... but then there is a ton of over the top hyperbole / rhetoric / left wing talking points. It undermines what's important.

And then you have Mitch voting against Jackson pffft. What a crock.

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Honestly, because of her actions, it casts a doubt on Justice Thomas' ability to be fair and impartial in matters regarding anything to do with Trump, Jan 6, the insurrection or for that matter anything to do with any matter dealing with the election.

I'm not saying he can't to be fair, I'm saying it's very possible he could NOT be impartial. That should be enough to cause him to recuse himself. I don't think a claim of "High Tech Lynching" will work this time.


Still kinda wondering why the Ginni Thomas doesn't keep her opinions to herself...


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Yeah, but what about that Tim Maliyil guy?

On a more serious note.......

Clarence Thomas was the lone dissent in the Supreme Court's January order rejecting Trump's bid to withhold documents from the January 6 panel

https://www.businessinsider.com/clarence-thomas-only-justice-dissent-in-trump-january-6-bid-2022-3

Hmmmm......


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Clarence Thomas' dissenting vote concerning the release of information to the Jan 6 committee ... just so happens that these very texts from Ginny Thomas to Mark Meadows were included in that information which was released to the committee. It does appear that Clarence might be involved in an attempted 'coverup'.

Also, according to the reporters who broke the story about the texts...they have more information that will be released in the near future.




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I'm not going to reach to the conclusion that Clarence Thomas was involved in some kind of cover up. At least not at this juncture. Yet at the very same time it's hard for me to fathom how in a majority of conservatives on the SCOTUS he was the only vote to try and help Trump keep all of those documents concealed. When you combine his wife's texts with that decision it's certainly at the very least quite coincidental. It could also be that he was aware of his wife's messages and didn't want that exposed. I mean that would still be considered a cover up I suppose but not all that sinister of a motive.


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https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-fin...uction-effort-overturn/story?id=83721530

Judge finds Trump 'more likely than not' committed felony obstruction in effort to overturn election
The judge said Trump's former lawyer John Eastman must turn over documents.

ByKatherine Faulders
March 28, 2022, 4:08 PM
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Judge finds Trump 'likely' committed obstruction

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A federal judge has found that former President Donald Trump "more likely than not" committed felony obstruction in the effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

U.S District Judge David Carter said in the ruling that Trump's former lawyer John Eastman must turn over most documents he is withholding from the Jan. 6 House committee investigating the attack on the U.S Capitol.



"Based on the evidence, the Court finds it more likely than not that President Trump corruptly attempted to obstruct the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, 2021," Carter wrote.

The judge, who reviewed Eastman's documents, ordered Eastman to turn over all but ten that the court found privileged.

MORE: Former Trump personal assistant appears before Jan. 6 committee
In response, Eastman's legal team said in a statement Monday afternoon that Eastman "intends to comply with the court's order" and will turn over the requested documents.

In his ruling, Judge Carter, a Clinton appointee, provided a summary of several documents Eastman has sought to block.

"The eleventh document is a chain forwarding to Dr. Eastman a draft memo written for President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani," Carter wrote. "The memo recommended that Vice President Pence reject electors from contested states on January 6. This may have been the first time members of President Trump's team transformed a legal interpretation of the Electoral Count Act into a day-by-day plan of action."

PHOTO: In this Jan. 6, 2021, file photo, President Donald Trump speaks at the "Stop The Steal" Rally in Washington, D.C.
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"The draft memo pushed a strategy that knowingly violated the Electoral Count Act, and Dr. Eastman's later memos closely track its analysis and proposal," Carter wrote.

"The memo is both intimately related to and clearly advanced the plan to obstruct the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, 2021," wrote the judge. "Because the memo likely furthered the crimes of obstruction of an official proceeding and conspiracy to defraud the United States, it is subject to the crime-fraud exception and the Court ORDERS it to be disclosed."

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