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The commie way.

Embrace him when he says something you like and dismiss him when he's ripping Trump or the GOP on other issues ! Love it.

Let's not forget Jon Stewart calling the Spotify boycotts an over reaction .... another guy that is smart and has a history of ripping on Trump and the spinelessness of the GOP over the last 10+ years ... suddenly he's a smart guy too.

Talking to yourself is not healthy. Maybe yo should seek some help.

Bro, you, Pit and OCD need to give the playground stuff a rest... y'all literally sound like you're twelve. The "yeah but, yeah but, yeah but TRUMP!" stuff is beyond juvenile.

I want to make sure I understand this... you're mad because I need to post a Trump hate video for every non-Trump-hate video? Is that the standard?

Can I just take you all out and buy you an ice cream instead??

I don't tend to talk standards with someone who has none. Now you're just babbling.

Now we can't post something unless we agree with the person 100% of the time?

If you're going to come into the post I expect you to come with something better than that. Your comment is completely irrelevant and doesn't address the matter at hand. It honestly reminds me of a twelve year old screaming about something else not even close to what's being discussed by the adults in the room. It comes across as low brow and unintelligent.

I'm also not sure who you're referring to when you say "they", as a libertarian and champion for individual rights, I'm concerned with any nation that appears to overstep its bounds and limit their citizens freedoms. You should be very troubled about all of this if you're a student of history and governments over the past hundred years or so.

Meanwhile, FATE is on a roll with some of his posts so kudos to him!!! I find it completely amazing that some of you (the usual suspects) are completely missing the point of all this and why it's such a big deal. It's not just about the trucker convoy, mask mandates, or the the current rules. It's about the unchecked, unfettered use of government powers and how Trudeau is welding them around like he can do whatever he pleases, no limits to authority. He can say whatever he wants and use Covid as an excuse for his behavior but it's nothing more than a blatant power grab. Personally I think he's testing the waters to see how much he can get away with and what Canadian citizens are willing to put up with. He'll keep going further until someone forcibly stops him or he's defeated in an election.

These quotes are very appropriate for the situation going on in Canada and in our own backyard.

"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-Benjamin Franklin

"Threats to freedom of speech, writing and action, though often trivial in isolation, are cumulative in their effect and, unless checked, lead to a general disrespect for the rights of the citizen."

-George Orwell

If it didn't pertain to you it wasn't meant for you. There's nothing low brow about pointing out how so many people still support a man who used his friends and followers as tools to try to overthrow our elections that now try to lambaste Trudeau. It's hypocrisy at it's finest. And maybe you shouldn't be throwing stones before you read your own posts.

The newest one making the rounds is of Trudeau kneeling with the BLM protestors to stop police violence.. beside it is a picture of him sending in mounted police to break up a truckers protest where a number of people were hurt.

It's poetic.

If you find that poetic...

From 2020:

"We are a country that recognizes the right to protest, but we are a country of the rule of law. And we will ensure that everything is done to resolve this through dialogue and constructive outcomes."

"We are not the kind of country where politicians get to tell the police what to do in operational matters," Trudeau said in Munich, Germany, where he was attending a global security conference.

Until you've spent three weeks trying to do everything. It's so odd how the very same people that supported this type of action last summer are suddenly having a melt down over it now.

What did he try to do for 3 weeks?

Odd indeed. What's not odd, in fact it's fairly predictable, is when you play this hypocrisy card...

Yet that's exactly what it is. Every person I can think of on this very board agreed that during the summer everyone involved in criminal activity should be arrested and convicted of those crimes. That includes everyone that people label as liberal on this board. Now suddenly the people who were yelling the loudest don't seem to like it when the shoe is on the other foot.

I haven't heard you speak out against what Trudeau's doing, although you railed against what was going on against the protesters here. That hypocrisy goes both ways.

Show me. Because that didn't happen. I'll repeat, I and everyone that gets labeled liberal agreed that those who were breaking the law should be arrested and prosecuted. I don't think you have the receipts to back that up.

Truckers were breaking the law?

Yeah, you might want to look into that for yourself. And they were warned days in advance as to what would happen.

For 3 weeks. If the Truckers had done what they did in Canada here, there would have been many people screaming at the authorities to move them and arrest their asses.

I don't give a crap about the US's "screamers", and what they "would be doing".

Not aware of which laws they were breaking, are you?

I am not aware at all.

I have not been following this story. I think this is a 100% bullcrap news story propped up by the right wing MSM. I read one story on my google news feed about how long this has been going on and how the truckers have been warned what would happen and that nothing changed. . . . conversely I do know that we had posters here on the board that felt that vandalism and violent protests here in the USA were deserving of being shot - so the fake outrage over what Canada/Trudeau is doing is even more Bullcrap.

Do I agree with how Trudeau has handled the situation? Not based on what my Canadian friends say - do I think the story is being manipulated by the MSM ? Yes. Do I have any sympathy for any group that creates so much chaos? Not much. Just like I said last year, arrest and prosecute the criminals - I would say the same to this and other groups that break the law. If it's in the name of a good cause maybe you get a couple days grace to make headlines. You don't get 3 weeks.

So, if a poster on DT said "violent protests here in the USA were deserving of being shot ", anybody with an opinion on non-violent protests is just expressing "fake outrage"?

Got it.

No here, we could just run them down in the streets in some red states.

Question…are they blocking actual traffic and commerce?

Honest question because honestly I’ve struggled to grasp the larger picture. This isn’t one of my bait and traps, haha.

Traffic - yes. Commerce - yes.

Can't do anything about commerce. Not with three protesters or 30 thousand. That's just the way things go. Their right to protest takes precedence over my right for everyone to see the front window of my coffee shop.

When they were ordered to clear lanes at bridges, they did so. Some somewhat reluctantly, as would be expected. There were arrests (I have no idea how many) and resistance by some, no violence that I'm aware of.

Other video shows truckers/citizens and cops "talking it out" after they cleaned things up -- basically thanking each other.

After one bridge was cleared they all lined up, cops and truckers, and formed a post-game handshake like you would see at a hockey game.

They were still called "seditious insurrectionists, a threat to democracy".

Do you think their laws are the same? Do you think Canada lives under the U.S. Constitution? Because they don't.

We've covered this, more than once.

If you can't show the laws they broke, tape it shut.

FATE, this all you bro.

You're the one whining claiming he did something wrong. Yet you have no receipts to back it up. You just keep running your mouth and have nothing but tripe spewing out. If you have something to show, show it. Otherwise it's you that doesn't even have a goal post to move.

As usual, you got nothing.

Whatever Pit.

You're a big waste of time.

I could go back and quote all your whiney-ass posts; with the same, tired, goalpost moving comments. NO NEED, we all live it. You're like the "slow" kid in class that everyone just pats on the head.

In this case, mgh888 says they broke laws...

I asked which laws.

It's not my job to tell him which laws they didn't break just because you say so.

You turn that into "you think you're some expert on Canadian law".

FOR THE 55TH TIME.


Will there ever come a day when you can actually keep up with a conversation?

The slow one throws out garbage with no substance. What laws or rights in Canada did Trudeau break? Rather than answer the accusations you're making you go into some personal attack tirade like some elementary kid on a playground. You're the one saying how wrong Trudeau was. So what did he do that was wrong by Canadian law?

I know, you'll throw out yet more childish insults while claiming it's others that are slow. Sadly nobody is here to take out the trash.

I told you I am not watching this situation closely and I said I did not know which laws were broken.

I do remember seeing that truckers were warned after a long period of time of being allowed to demonstrate that there would be consequences if the blockades continue. The inference was that blockading ports and entry crossings is illegal.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8616199/trucker-convoy-justin-trudeau-meeting/

I am not a Canadian national - I do not know their laws. If blockading a port is not illegal - it should be. But maybe you have some gotcha factoid lined up - I don't care.

Comparing Trudeau and what's happening in Canada to Ukraine is more than Dumb and moronic. That's happened a lot and Swish posted a link to a Republican Congresswoman doing just that. Posters on this board trying to make out that Trudeau is some evil dictator and human rights violators - and comparing it and linking it to what happened in the US after the death of George Floyd and the BLM protests - nearly as stupid.


I'm done.

So your answer to "what laws did the truckers break?" is "what laws did Trudeau break?"

LMAO.

So you still got nothing. Color me shocked.

I am not sure the issue is as much "breaking Canadian laws" as it is different enforcement measures depending on how he feels on the topic. Blockade protests are really common. Some last hours, some have lasted years. In some instances the government has gone to court to get injunctions blocking the protests (when the protesters wont dialogue) then after a few injunctions get ignore the police/rcmp are called in. The way the OCP handled the protest at first is a somewhat common way of them being handled. But it's so haphazard you cant get a rhyme or reason, last year a Covid Mandate protest was shut down due to violating health orders against assembling in public, 4 days later the police did traffic detail for a protest around a girl that had been killed by police a year earlier.

The Trans-Canada is is the main highway for the country. It was under blockade roughly 15 times where I live in 2021, from a few hours to a full day. Everyone can argue the reasons and the length without ever coming to an agreement because that is the way it is. I am against the Convoy blockade because I am against all the blockades, I see it is counter-productive to negatively impact the "neutral" people on your issue.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-convoy-protesters-no-tickets-1.6348421

Ports get blocked quite often, it's a liberal country. People commit crimes and are out the same day to commit more. The Justice System is mostly a revolving door.

I can't speak to Canadian law either, but I can speak to public opinion in the US... quite a few times protestors in the US decided to block bridges and major arteries into big cities, creating traffic chaos, preventing people from getting to work, preventing goods from being delivered, in some cases preventing emergency vehicles from getting through... and the left was, for the most part, supportive of these types of protests. The reasons they gave were "You have to make people uncomfortable to get their attention", "you have to hit people in the wallet to get them to listen", "protests that aren't inconvenient for people aren't effective", etc... We had states and jurisdictions debating laws on who was responsible if a person protesting in the middle of the interstate got hit by a car.

Somebody would have to explain to me why they supported those but don't support this. And by "support" I don't mean you had to want them to win, just support their right to protest in that way. Either creating blockades that cause chaos and economic hardship are ok or they are not.

Yeah, blocking billions of dollars in international trade and causing auto makers to pump the breaks on production is the same thing.

“I think it’s important for everyone in Canada and the United States to understand what the impact of this blockage is – potential impact – on workers, on the supply chain, and that is where we’re most focused,” White House spokesperson Jen Psaki said.

Yep, same thing.

Anytime someone blocks someone else from their freedom to drive/pass/cross a public highway/street I feel the blocker, no matter their reason of protest is in the wrong.
When your protest interferes with other people lives, regardless if they are for, against, or neutral to your cause you are interfering with their right to use public property, even more so if your protest actively and/or aggressively denies others access to those structures.

You are now arguing in degrees. Your point is that creating chaos and economic hardship is ok... to a point? Yet when unions go on strike and shut entire vital industries, the left generally supports it. See, it still seems like your line on whether you support the action depends largely on whether you support the outcome.