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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I know you're not used to supporting someone who can walk and chew gum at the same time. But it's actually a thing.
That is about the qualifications for President these days, isn't it?


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Sadly yes. And I'm not happy about it.

I watch the leader of Ukraine, members of their parliament and Mayor Klitschko on the coverage of the Ukraine war. Most seem like smart, more middle aged adults that have put their nation over their agenda's. Then I look at our leaders, from both parties and all I can do is shake my head.


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Well to be fair - before the war Zelenski's popularity was rock bottom. Judging leaders during times of combat/war does not always stand the test of time ... Let's wait for the dust to settle. I mean - compared to Biden and Trump, maybe any world leader looks good? idk ... but most Americans I know were absolutely in LOVE with Tony Blair during the Iraq war, he had a lot of support in the UK at the time, but his viewed as a pariah today.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...eat-from-iraq-chilcot-report-war-inquiry


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I also think people give Presidents too much credit. These guys aren't drawing up battle plans, economic plans etc. They MIGHT throw out an idea during a meeting, but other people do all the work to see if it is viable. Presidents are basically just the face of the country, the head PR man, the Mathew McConaughey of Lincoln, the Jennifer Lopez of Goli, the Peyton Manning of Nationwide.


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I certainly agree with you IF the president listens to anyone that doesn't walk lock step in line with his own views. The best presidents surround themselves with smart people and advisors. They objectively listen to those advisors and take their recommendations under strong advisement when coming to a conclusion. Then some fire any advisors who have strong, independent ideas that are counter to what a president thinks and feels even though these advisors are supposed to be the experts in their fields who know more on these issues than the actual president.


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I believe that over time any leader will take stands that while they may be right, are unpopular. Another thing is that over time a leaders adversaries can pick apart every word and thing he or she has said and paint a very skewed portrait of a leader. Then there is the fact that a leader can be very strong and popular in certain areas and much weaker in others. Depending on which factors are most pressing to the voters at any point in time, at that point in time a leader can look strong or weak depending on the issues. You can be strong on the economy and weak on foreign policy. You can look strong leading during a war and weak on the economy. So a leaders popularity can go up and down like a yoyo.


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Read the Full Text of Mark Pomerantz’s Resignation Letter

The former prosecutor who investigated Donald J. Trump believed that the former president was “guilty of numerous felony violations.”

The following is the full text of the resignation letter by Mark Pomerantz, who had investigated former President Donald J. Trump, but left after the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin Bragg, halted an effort to seek an indictment.

Dear Alvin,

I write to tender my resignation as a Special Assistant District Attorney and to explain my reasons for resigning.

As you know from our recent conversations and presentations, I believe that Donald Trump is guilty of numerous felony violations of the Penal Law in connection with the preparation and use of his annual Statements of Financial Condition. His financial statements were false, and he has a long history of fabricating information relating to his personal finances and lying about his assets to banks, the national media, counterparties, and many others, including the American people. The team that has been investigating Mr. Trump harbors no doubt about whether he committed crimes — he did.

In late 2021, then-District Attorney Cyrus Vance directed a thorough review of the facts and law relating to Mr. Trump’s financial statements. Mr. Vance had been intimately involved in our investigation, attending grand jury presentations, sitting in on certain witness interviews, and receiving regular reports about the progress of the investigation. He concluded that the facts warranted prosecution, and he directed the team to present evidence to a grand jury and to seek an indictment of Mr. Trump and other defendants as soon as reasonably possible.

This work was underway when you took office as District Attorney. You have devoted significant time and energy to understanding the evidence we have accumulated with respect to the Trump financial statements, as well as the applicable law. You have reached the decision not to go forward with the grand jury presentation and not to seek criminal charges at the present time. The investigation has been suspended indefinitely. Of course, that is your decision to make. I do not question your authority to make it, and I accept that you have made it sincerely. However, a decision made in good faith may nevertheless be wrong. I believe that your decision not to prosecute Donald Trump now, and on the existing record, is misguided and completely contrary to the public interest. I therefore cannot continue in my current position.

In my view, the public interest warrants the criminal prosecution of Mr. Trump, and such a prosecution should be brought without any further delay. Because of the complexity of the facts, the refusal of Mr. Trump and the Trump Organization to cooperate with our investigation, and their affirmative steps to frustrate our ability to follow the facts, this investigation has already consumed a great deal of time. As to Mr. Trump, the great bulk of the evidence relates to his management of the Trump Organization before he became President of the United States. These facts are already dated, and our ability to establish what happened may erode with the further passage of time. Many of the salient facts have been made public in proceedings brought by the Office of the Attorney General, and the public has rightly inquired about the pace of our investigation. Most importantly, the further passage of time will raise additional questions about the failure to hold Mr. Trump accountable for his criminal conduct.

To the extent you have raised issues as to the legal and factual sufficiency of our case and the likelihood that a prosecution would succeed, I and others have advised you that we have evidence sufficient to establish Mr. Trump’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, and we believe that the prosecution would prevail if charges were brought and the matter were tried to an impartial jury. No case is perfect. Whatever the risks of bringing the case may be, I am convinced that a failure to prosecute will pose much greater risks in terms of public confidence in the fair administration of justice. As I have suggested to you, respect for the rule of law, and the need to reinforce the bedrock proposition that “no man is above the law,” require that this prosecution be brought even if a conviction is not certain.

I also do not believe that suspending the investigation pending future developments will lead to a stronger case or dispel your reluctance to bring charges. No events are likely to occur that will alter the nature of the case or dramatically change the quality or quantity of the evidence available to the prosecution. There are always additional facts to be pursued. But the investigative team that has been working on this matter for many months does not believe that it makes law enforcement sense to postpone a prosecution in the hope that additional evidence will somehow emerge. On the contrary, I and others believe that your decision not to authorize prosecution now will doom any future prospects that Mr. Trump will be prosecuted for the criminal conduct we have been investigating.

I fear that your decision means that Mr. Trump will not be held fully accountable for his crimes. I have worked too hard as a lawyer, and for too long, now to become a passive participant in what I believe to be a grave failure of justice. I therefore resign from my position as a Special Assistant District Attorney, effective immediately.

Sincerely,

Mark F. Pomerantz

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/23/nyregion/mark-pomerantz-resignation-letter.html



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Well that’s an interesting twist opposing the narrative that they resigned due to lack of evidence.


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She’s as corrupt as they get. Problem is she just got elected in 2020, right? She has all kinds of time on her hands now to wreak havoc before she feels like she needs to make nice again.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
Well that’s an interesting twist opposing the narrative that they resigned due to lack of evidence.

More like a petulant child quitting the game and running out the door crying out accusations.

Truth...

Mr. Bragg, whose office is conducting the investigation along with lawyers working for New York’s attorney general, Letitia James, had not taken issue with Mr. Dunne and Mr. Pomerantz presenting evidence to the grand jury in his first days as district attorney. But as the weeks passed, he developed concerns about the challenge of showing Mr. Trump’s intent — a requirement for proving that he criminally falsified his business records — and about the risks of relying on the former president’s onetime fixer, Michael D. Cohen, as a key witness.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/05/nyregion/trump-investigation-manhattan-da-alvin-bragg.html

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Originally Posted by dawglover05
She’s as corrupt as they get. Problem is she just got elected in 2020, right? She has all kinds of time on her hands now to wreak havoc before she feels like she needs to make nice again.


But she likes that money money... You know.

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Trump sues Hillary, her indicted lawyer, Jake Sullivan, James Comey, Christopher Steele and the DNC for 'crippling' his 2016 race by 'weaving a false narrative he was colluding with Russia'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ing-cripple-bid-presidency.html#comments

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Sic em boy!

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Apparently I’m out of free views for The NY Times…

I don’t know how much you know about the law or prosecution and whatnot, but if you were in the shoes of that particular DA and you received direction from your boss to gather evidence and build a case before a grand jury - and it’s a lot easier to indict than you think (unless it’s DeShaun Watson apparently) - and you obtained said evidence and felt confident in your position moving forward, and then somebody comes in and upends you, then you would probably resign too.

The biggest thing that they had going against them, in my mind, is that Trump would have paid an entire expensive legal team to go out there purely for the sake of impeaching Cohen’s character. That could have been difficult to overcome.

However, to suddenly veer left at the last moment, that would have ticked me off too if I was on that team.


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Originally Posted by 40YEARSWAITING
Sic em boy!

LMAO, I can't wait. All the Mueller Report will be on trial. Lots of uncomfortable facts in that report that say he's guilty as hell. Trump is so stupid.

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Democrat Abby Broyles drops out of race for 5th District

https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrat-abby-broyles-drops-race-181333739.html

just read the article, guys. lmao good lord what a trainwreck.


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Crippled the race that he won?


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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He sues everyone for everything. Usually with little success because he seems unaware you need legal grounds to win them.

I mean looking at the Trump crew, they filed and lost well over 60 lawsuits just after the election. He sued to keep his presidential documents sealed and lost. The list goes on and on. It's hilarious how you all used to promote tort reform to stop frivolous lawsuits. Now you post about them and applaud them.


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Originally Posted by Swish
Democrat Abby Broyles drops out of race for 5th District

https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrat-abby-broyles-drops-race-181333739.html

just read the article, guys. lmao good lord what a trainwreck.

Wow. Addiction, questionable judgement, quitting, inappropriate adult behavior with children present… She should run on the GOPer ticket, they'll make her POTUS.

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Pelosi says more spending will reduce the national debt.

Who here ever paid of a credit card by spending more? Anyone?

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I hadn't heard her say that but I have heard them say the deficit in 202i has gone down from 2020. And that the Democrats claim spending more will further decrease the deficit in 2022. Which has been true when comparing the deficit in 2020 to 2021. But the deficit is not that national debt and when trying to use the deficit as some kind of victory without explaining you're merely kicking the can down the road and using tools that only serve to increase the national debt it's very misleading and will only convince uninformed voters. Sadly it seems rather evident that neither party actually cares about the national debt. They just want to be in control so they can increase our national debt on what they want to spend that money on.


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So who is Tim Mayilli and why does his stupid post have to do with anything?


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Originally Posted by mgh888
So who is Tim Mayilli and why does his stupid post have to do with anything?

apparently anybody with a blue checkmark are leaders of <insert political affiliation>. i've never heard of that dude in my life.


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I googled the guy.


Tim Migill comes up, So does Tim Mayville
But Tim Mayilli? Nothing .


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Originally Posted by Jester
I googled the guy.


Tim Migill comes up, So does Tim Mayville
But Tim Mayilli? Nothing .

https://twitter.com/tim_maliyil

he's real, but he's a tech guy in cybersecurity with 42k followers.

apparently this makes him an authority figure in politics to memphis.


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Originally Posted by Jester
I googled the guy.


Tim Migill comes up, So does Tim Mayville
But Tim Mayilli? Nothing .

Try googling his actual name. rofl


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Originally Posted by Swish
Originally Posted by Jester
I googled the guy.


Tim Migill comes up, So does Tim Mayville
But Tim Mayilli? Nothing .

https://twitter.com/tim_maliyil

he's real, but he's a tech guy in cybersecurity with 42k followers.

apparently this makes him an authority figure in politics to memphis.

and most of his tweets are retweets.


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Originally Posted by Jester
I googled the guy.


Tim Migill comes up, So does Tim Mayville
But Tim Mayilli? Nothing .

Try googling his actual name. rofl


rofl That does help
He runs a company called alertboots - never heard of it.

Swish, my point wasn't that he isn't real. My point, which holds up even with the regoogle is that he is just just average schmo who's tweets mean nothing.


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Originally Posted by Jester
I googled the guy.


Tim Migill comes up, So does Tim Mayville
But Tim Mayilli? Nothing .

This .... and what does his opinion matter? Why is some rando tweet by someone with a bad take important? ? ? Ohhhh - that's right, it's not.

Why?

Because there are probably literally MILLIONS of looney posts that support Trump, the GOP, the left, the far left, the far right. Hell I bet there are stoopid tweets and FB messages that support centrists.

QUOTING RANDOM PEOPLE WITH FOOLISH TAKES IS ASININE. I know Faux has been making a living off that recently and it's spreading. Doesn't make it relevant.


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Biden, 79, uses 'cheat sheets' to answer press questions on his 'unscripted' call for Putin to be ousted in Russia: Rand Paul claims need for cue cards shows 'somebody who's in cognitive decline'

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'I hear you' - Trump uses cue card to remind him to listen to shooting survivors

The US president was pictured holding a briefing note that appeared to be a reminder for him to show empathy to school shooting survivors visiting the White House

Trump's cue cards


Trump's cue card event in 2018 when he was 72...what would Rand Paul think? notallthere


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Y’all complain about the dumbest crap. Every president in history has a cheat sheet when answering questions to the media.

Might as well complain that every president needs sleep.


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And did you see that picture of him eating pizza with the troops? He has to eat actual food? How weak.

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So... y'alls think Biden is NOT in cognitive decline?


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Originally Posted by FATE
So... y'alls think Biden is NOT in cognitive decline?

no. especially since i watched a guy for the last 4 years struggle to complete a coherent sentence. if that wasnt a sign of cognitive decline, then im not gonna view biden that way either.


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Wow. laugh

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