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Good value.

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Now I really hate the ravens get my guy Paschal. Fricken suxs.


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This makes me think we are re-signing Clowney and Jarvis ...


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Originally Posted by FL_Dawg
Now I really hate the ravens get my guy Paschal. Fricken suxs.

Lions took him


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Think Romeo Doubs as one of the receivers we select.


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Originally Posted by FL_Dawg
Now I really hate the ravens get my guy Paschal. Fricken suxs.

No, the Ravens got my guy.....David Ojabo. Freaking stupid trade.

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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
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Now I really hate the ravens get my guy Paschal. Fricken suxs.

No, the Ravens got my guy.....David Ojabo. Freaking stupid trade.
Yes, we still sux.


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Berry acquiring more picks to throw in a deal to move Mayfield to avoid eating salary. Lovely! willynilly

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Originally Posted by PastorMarc
This makes me think we are re-signing Clowney and Jarvis ...

Agree that Clowney is coming back. Landry, not so much.

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Originally Posted by CapCity Dawg
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Now I really hate the ravens get my guy Paschal. Fricken suxs.

Lions took him


Yes I know we sux.


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I like what Berry has done for the most part. I just think that there were some difference makers that were great values on the board. Hell, I liked your guy, too.

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This trade confuses me, why trade back 24 spots?


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Pickens continues to fall


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I like what Berry has done for the most part. I just think that there were some difference makers that were great values on the board. Hell, I liked your guy, too.


I hate this draft.


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Trading out of the second round when you had No first for 3 lottery tickets don’t seem prudent


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Originally Posted by PastorMarc
This trade confuses me, why trade back 24 spots?

Because we got other picks too.

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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
I like what Berry has done for the most part. I just think that there were some difference makers that were great values on the board. Hell, I liked your guy, too.


I hate this draft.
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This trade confuses me, why trade back 24 spots?

Over thinking by children.


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You guys know that I am usually positive with what the Browns do even to a fault BUT this trade makes me want to shut the TV off and go to bed ....


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Originally Posted by cfrs15
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This trade confuses me, why trade back 24 spots?

Because we got other picks too.

Stop it.


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Originally Posted by PastorMarc
This trade confuses me, why trade back 24 spots?

We get 2 extra 4th round picks so now we can take P Matt Araiza and K Cade York both in the 4th round

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Originally Posted by PastorMarc
You guys know that I am usually positive with what the Browns do even to a fault BUT this trade makes me want to shut the TV off and go to bed ....

More picks = better chance at getting a quality player in a weak draft

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We all know how much J'Marcus Bradley su(struggles) and Harrison Bryant also su(struggles) as the #1 option to run your offense through

But Get ready, to See a Whole Lot More of it, because the Browns, can't bother to be tied down to selecting One Player, or finding one,
they have to PUNT and hope 3 lesser prospects could be it.

Absolutely a wrong decision.


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I think this draft class is weak at QB, but there were a lot of quality players in this class.

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On the bright side all the TE's are still available ooo


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I wonder what Paul Brown would have done?


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Originally Posted by cfrs15
Originally Posted by PastorMarc
You guys know that I am usually positive with what the Browns do even to a fault BUT this trade makes me want to shut the TV off and go to bed ....

More picks = better chance at getting a quality player in a weak draft

Why don't you end up with 25 picks,
Numbers 230-255th overall,
and See how well that does Ya !


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Originally Posted by cfrs15
Originally Posted by PastorMarc
You guys know that I am usually positive with what the Browns do even to a fault BUT this trade makes me want to shut the TV off and go to bed ....

More picks = better chance at getting a quality player in a weak draft


rofl


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NOTHING IS LEFT IN THE DAMN DRAFT! WTG Berry!

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Originally Posted by PastorMarc
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You guys know that I am usually positive with what the Browns do even to a fault BUT this trade makes me want to shut the TV off and go to bed ....

More picks = better chance at getting a quality player in a weak draft


rofl

The pick of the bottom of the barrel....

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Originally Posted by FL_Dawg
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You guys know that I am usually positive with what the Browns do even to a fault BUT this trade makes me want to shut the TV off and go to bed ....

More picks = better chance at getting a quality player in a weak draft


rofl

The pick of the bottom of the barrel....

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My guess is that some of these picks end up 2023 picks.

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Originally Posted by THROW LONG
I wonder what Paul Brown would have done?

picked a CB in the 17th Round


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I hope Berry has a good explanation!!!


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Originally Posted by PastorMarc
I hope Berry has a good explanation!!!

“We didn’t think the value was there so we decided to trade out.”

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This trade confuses me, why trade back 24 spots?

We get 2 extra 4th round picks so now we can take P Matt Araiza and K Cade York both in the 4th round

ooo

This would actually make me happy.


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Originally Posted by PastorMarc
On the bright side all the TE's are still available ooo

Jeremy Ruckert would be a nice pick TE from Ohio State

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Originally Posted by cfrs15
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You guys know that I am usually positive with what the Browns do even to a fault BUT this trade makes me want to shut the TV off and go to bed ....

More picks = better chance at getting a quality player in a weak draft


rofl

The pick of the bottom of the barrel....

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My guess is that some of these picks end up 2023 picks.

I was thinking why didn’t we try to get a 2023 pick from the Texans for one of those three picks. Usually get better value for future picks and with a strong QB class it could possibly have a little more value as some players will drop

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Originally Posted by DeisleDawg
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On the bright side all the TE's are still available ooo

Jeremy Ruckert would be a nice pick TE from Ohio State


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Same thoughts Deisle with one of those extra picks.

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So 10 picks away and still 4 predictions from the Prediction Thread still on the board:

Nik Bonitto
Perrion Winfrey
Travis Davis
Drake Jackson


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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
I like what Berry has done for the most part. I just think that there were some difference makers that were great values on the board. Hell, I liked your guy, too.

I wish posters would actually say who they wanted to pick = or say they agree with the trade ... by saying banalities like this you don't state an opinion one way or the other. It's like you are setting yourself to be right no matter what. It should be:

I like this trade and I would do the same.

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I don't agree with this trade - I would have liked to see us take "XXX".


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I like what Berry has done for the most part. I just think that there were some difference makers that were great values on the board. Hell, I liked your guy, too.

I wish posters would actually say who they wanted to pick = or say they agree with the trade ... by saying banalities like this you don't state an opinion one way or the other. It's like you are setting yourself to be right no matter what. It should be:

I like this trade and I would do the same.

or

I don't agree with this trade - I would have liked to see us take "XXX".

So are you Stephen A. or Skip Bayless? Not everything is a yes or no. If I don't know about something I'm going to say I don't know.

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Hmmmm... no, I think when a poster says he likes what the GM has done but then says he thinks there were difference makers available - it seems like double talk. I'm not Skip or Stephen A. I'm making a comment about a post that essentially seems to want to agree with both sides. I'd prefer a one or the other.


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Originally Posted by cfrs15
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I hope Berry has a good explanation!!!

“We didn’t think the value was there so we decided to trade out.”

That is the obvious reason. Several of our targeted players were selected and we found more value in trading back to an area where we had more targeted players.

This is a fairly deep draft in to the middle rounds. While some of the names might not be the splash names some seemingly want, I have no doubt we will be able to select solid players.


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Originally Posted by cfrs15
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I like what Berry has done for the most part. I just think that there were some difference makers that were great values on the board. Hell, I liked your guy, too.

I wish posters would actually say who they wanted to pick = or say they agree with the trade ... by saying banalities like this you don't state an opinion one way or the other. It's like you are setting yourself to be right no matter what. It should be:

I like this trade and I would do the same.

or

I don't agree with this trade - I would have liked to see us take "XXX".

So are you Stephen A. or Skip Bayless? Not everything is a yes or no. If I don't know about something I'm going to say I don't know.

You realize he is just trying to start another fight w/me, right? Dude is obsessed w/me. Check out the Baker threads for evidence of that. Btw------I thought it was very clear that I wanted David Ojabo, but I would have been fine w/the DE from Kentucky or Skyy Moore. There was some value at 44.

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No doubt you wanted Ojabo.
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I agree that overall it looks pretty solid thus far.

I get the corner pick. We have been pretty good at scouting those guys and there is more of a need then people think when you consider we have 2 expiring contracts after the season and probably can't sign both guys.

I was good with Bell. Maybe not a star in the making, but he should be a solid addition.

The DE had me wondering, but only because i didn't know who he was. Now that i have read more reports on him, he could turn in to a really good player.

Today is a big day, especially the 4th since we traded back to get 2 extra picks. In all the lead up to the draft I read on numerous occasions that this is a excellent year to have extra mid round picks....well...we have them so I would expect to grab a couple of guys who will turn to be solid players.


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Very revealing.

Thanks for posting that.

That tells why we made the trade.

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I don't agree with this trade, I would have liked to see the Browns take John Metchie III Wr. from Alabama,
whom coincidently went #44 in the pick the Browns traded, to the team the Browns traded the pick to, the Texans.

( Does anyone else believe this was all part of the Deshaun Watson trade and agreed to weeks ago, but it would have looked so bad, someone insisted on not announcing it until the night of the draft? because I about 50/50 think that.)


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