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A Colorado officer has been sued for fatally shooting a Good Samaritan who stopped an active shooter

https://www.yahoo.com/news/colorado-officer-sued-fatally-shooting-123900728.html

So bad guy with gun gets taken down by a good guy with gun, then gets whacked by good guys with guns.

Make it make sense.

A Colorado officer has been sued for fatally shooting a Good Samaritan who stopped an active shooter

https://www.yahoo.com/news/colorado-officer-sued-fatally-shooting-123900728.html

So bad guy with gun gets taken down by a good guy with gun, then gets whacked by good guys with guns.

Make it make sense.

MORE GUNS !! More guns is always the right answer.

Marjorie Taylor Greene says children 'should be trained with firearms' to ward off a 'mad man with a gun' in schools

https://www.yahoo.com/news/marjorie-taylor-greene-says-children-133031870.html

no conservative in this country should ever, ever, ever talk about a middle eastern country or somewhere in latin/south america ever again.

this is absolutely pathetic. we are not a 1st world country.

Marjorie Taylor Greene says children 'should be trained with firearms' to ward off a 'mad man with a gun' in schools

https://www.yahoo.com/news/marjorie-taylor-greene-says-children-133031870.html

no conservative in this country should ever, ever, ever talk about a middle eastern country or somewhere in latin/south america ever again.

this is absolutely pathetic. we are not a 1st world country.

Mass Shooting at 4th of July Parade in Highland Park

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/7/4/23194354/highland-park-fourth-july-parade-gunfire

Update.

Chicago has more gun laws than most cities and this continues to happen more frequently than most cities.


Laws are meant for those who will obey them.

This didn't happen in Chicago...

Highland Park is a super rich suburb that is 27 miles away... it would be like blaming Cleveland gun laws for a shooting in Hudson.

If they had only remembered to close and lock the doors

Denmark had a mass shooting yesterday

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/04/world/europe/copenhagen-denmark-mall-shooting.html

Denmark has restrictive gun laws: Civilians are not allowed to possess automatic firearms, and private possession of semiautomatic assault weapons and handguns is permitted only with special authorization

Shocker.
Of course look at the total numbers of gun deaths and mass shootings vs the USA... You'd realize you are advocating how stricter gun control works in other countries..

So we shouldn't have any laws?

I was driving 2o mph in a school zone during restricted hours a while back. This car passed me easily going 40-45 mph. Guess we should get rid of speed limits in school zones. Clearly the law breakers are going just going to ignore it.

well, you also need to stop and ask yourself if perhaps they're right instead of automatically jumping off the deep end in the opposite direction.

For much of what everyone is getting upset about, the criminals are ALREADY breaking laws, so what, exactly, is the point of adding more laws that they'll ignore, except to control and make life more complicated for those that already follow the laws?

What we know about the Highland Park shooting suspect
Dakin Andone bylineCurt Devine
By Dakin Andone and Curt Devine, CNN

(CNN)Hours after gunfire interrupted the Highland Park, Illinois, July Fourth parade, killing six people and wounding dozens more, police apprehended the man they believe was responsible.

Robert "Bobby" E. Crimo III, 22, has yet to be formally charged in the shooting, which authorities have said they believe he carried out by climbing onto the rooftop of a nearby business and opening fire on the parade minutes after it started, sending parade-goers fleeing for safety.

He was taken into custody soon after police publicly identified him as a "person of interest" who the FBI said was "being sought for his alleged involvement in the shooting of multiple individuals" at Highland Park's Independence Day parade. Police captured him near Lake Forest, Illinois, after he led police on a brief chase when a North Chicago police officer attempted a traffic stop.

After he was apprehended, authorities also referred to Crimo as a "suspect," a term which, in this case, was "synonymous" with "person of interest," Christopher Covelli, spokesperson for the Lake County Major Crime Task Force, said.

Law enforcement officials "processed a significant amount of digital evidence today which helped lead investigators in this direction," he said.
"This individual is believed to have been responsible for what happened and the investigation will continue," Covelli said.

Here's what we know about him.

He legally obtained the weapon used, mayor tells NBC
While Highland Park Mayor Nancy Rotering doesn't know where the gun used in Monday's shooting came from, she does "know that it was legally obtained," she said in an interview with NBC's Hoda Kotb on "Today."

Covelli previously said firearm evidence was found on the rooftop of a business near the shooting, describing the gun as a "high-powered rifle." At the time, authorities were working to trace the firearm to find out who purchased it and its origins, according to Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives spokesperson Kim Nerheim.
A total of 26 patients -- who range in age from 8 to 85 -- were received at Highland Park Hospital, said Dr. Brigham Temple, medical director of the NorthShore University Health System. Four or five patients were children, Temple said.
Nineteen of the 25 gunshot victims were treated and have been discharged, he said.

He posted violent imagery online

Authorities have "processed a significant amount of digital evidence" that helped lead them to identify Crimo as a suspect, Covelli told reporters in a news conference Monday night.

The suspected shooter posted music on several major streaming platforms under the pseudonym Awake the Rapper, and he apparently made and posted music videos online featuring ominous lyrics and animated scenes of gun violence.


In one video titled "Are you Awake," a cartoon animation of a stick-figure shooter resembling the suspect's appearance is seen wearing tactical gear and carrying out an attack with a rifle. Crimo, seen with multicolored hair and face tattoos, narrates, "I need to just do it. It is my destiny."

In another video titled "Toy Soldier, a similar stick-figure resembling the suspect is depicted lying face down on the floor in a pool of his own blood, surrounded by police officers with their guns drawn.

Several of the suspect's online postings "reflected a plan and a desire to commit carnage for a long time in advance," Mayor Rotering told NBC Tuesday.

"And it's one of those things where you step back and you say, what happened? How did somebody become this angry and hateful," she said, "to then take it out on innocent people who literally were just having a family day out?"

His uncle saw no warning signs

The suspect's uncle, Paul A. Crimo, was "heartbroken" to learn his nephew was believed to be responsible for Monday's shooting, telling CNN," There were no signs that I saw that would make him do this."

The suspect lived in an apartment behind a house in Highwood, Illinois, owned by his father, said Paul Crimo, he also lives there. He last saw his nephew Sunday evening, he said, sitting on a recliner in the house and looking on his computer.


"Everything was as normal," he said.

To his knowledge, Crimo did not have a job, Paul Crimo told CNN, though he worked at Panera Bread before the Covid-19 pandemic. Paul Crimo said he had never seen the suspect engage in violence or concerning behavior. He didn't know of his nephew's political views, either, describing him as a "quiet" person.

"He's usually on his own. He's a lonely, quiet person. He keeps everything to himself."

The suspect's father and Paul Crimo's brother, Robert Crimo Jr., previously ran for mayor, he said. "We are good people here, and to have this is devastating."
"I'm so heartbroken for all the families who lost their lives," Paul Crimo said.


CNN's Jeff Winter, Yahya Abou-Ghazala, David Williams and Rebekah Riess contributed to this report.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/05/us/robert-e-crimo-highland-park-suspect/index.html

He legally obtained the weapon used, mayor tells NBC
While Highland Park Mayor Nancy Rotering doesn't know where the gun used in Monday's shooting came from, she does "know that it was legally obtained," she said in an interview with NBC's Hoda Kotb on "Today."

Covelli previously said firearm evidence was found on the rooftop of a business near the shooting, describing the gun as a "high-powered rifle." At the time, authorities were working to trace the firearm to find out who purchased it and its origins, according to Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives spokesperson Kim Nerheim.

Legally obtained, but they don't know how or where from? They're certain it was legally obtained, but they don't know who purchased it or its origins?

Sounds like a load of crap, at best.