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It looks like they did more than that.

No more 2A two step.

Geez Port. I like you. Otherwise I would tell you to buzz off.

I think if you used your ample brain, you can figure out it wouldn't work like that.

I haven't seen the actual abortion laws proposed in some of these states that have trigger laws which will outlaw abortions the moment Roe vs Wade is overturned if it is overturned. I have heard that some of them do not have exclusions for rape or incest. I have also heard them say there will be "no exceptions". It may not be as cut and dry as you think it is.

Tell me then how it would work. Some of these states are wanting to deny abortion even in the case of rape. So tell me, what would the plan be? What would they tell the 11 year old pregnant rape victim why she was going to be forced to carry the baby she’s in no way capable of providing for?

Oh the sanctity of the fertilized egg must come above all!!! Except, well, you know…

j/c...

Dobbs vs Jackson

213 pages? Do they think I have nothing better to do than read these things?

WOOHOO doing my old, fat, white guy with no rhythm dance.

Gross. Really really gross.

Welcome to the world all the rape babies and unwanted children.
What a wonderful world.
Guys like GM will be dead when the rest of us are dealing with his garbage policies coming true.

This country sucks.

Now that being said *and a big raspberry to those of you who swore this day would never come* I hope the states still allow abortion in the case of rape, incest, or to save the mothers life and health.

They won’t and you know it.

Answer for the Alabama senator’s words I posted above.

Now you sound like my Doctors lol

Welcome to the world of over dramatic hyperbole....



Abortion is not illegal. Abortion was not taken off the table. The laws on abortion will be made at the state level, unless, I suppose, congress gets involved and sorts it out. That, of course, would mean the two sides need to stop yelling at each other and start talking, but that doesn't get airplay and fill the election coffers with that sweet sweet coinage.

and I will fight for the right to allow abortion in the cases I mentioned above just like I fought for the rights of the unborn for most of my adult life.

Mark my words, the crime rates in this country will climb dramatically in 16-18 years. Read Freakonomics.
I’ve got 13 years until retirement. Being an expat is sounding more and more appealing.

Yuck. This country… so disappointing. We’re going backwards and people are cheerleading for it. Yuck.

For me personally I don't agree with him. My niece and her husband adopted a baby (both catholic and don't believe in IVF) My daughter and her Husband can't have kids in the traditional way and my grandaughter was born using IVF, and my daughter is now preggers with a our first grandson right now also from IVF. IMO life is not possible until the fertilized eggs attaches itself to the uterine wall.

So it’s about the woman. Got it. Loud and clear.

I can't agree with old Clarence on that one, and neither would my brother and his husband if they were still alive.

Own it. This is your side. These are your peeps creating this. Own it.

Well, the country will burn this weekend and the next few weeks. Women are going to lose their minds over this. Dumbass hateful GOPer Justices.

Handmaid's tale here we come. You'd have to be mentally handicapped to vote for a GOPer IMHO. The only way they did this was by stealing SC seats. Dirty as hell.

Well I imagine that they're going to lay out a ton of precedent from a wide swath of court history if they're going against Stare Decisis.

And they thought they would win in 22, they are done for the next two decades.

Hey peen just checking in to continue our conversation.
How again will the conversation go?

j/c

Don't worry, they'll be forcing kids to have babies, they'll overturn gay marriage and be coming after the rights of everyone who isn't heterosexual now. Thomas is already eluding to it. Then many who supported the overturning of Roe vs Wade will say, "But that isn't what we meant!"

Gross. Really, really gross.

Answer, what will you tell the 11 year old rape victim? Stop dodging.

No one will force children to have babies.

Get out of the hyperbole and into real life.

This ruling did not:

1) Make abortion illegal in the US.
2) Forbid states from allowing abortion.
3) Forbid anyone to move lawfully from state to state in regards to abortion.
4) in any way keep the Federal government from enacting laws to codify abortion (likely under the interstate commerce clause) in the US.

Seriously, this got rid of a flawed opinion and restored states rights. I am sure everyone that has yelled about states rights in regards to NYSRPA ruling is yelling states rights in regard to this as well.

Yes, if you have the money to travel and provide yourself with lodging to get an abortion, you can. If you're too poor to do so, you can not.

Making abortion illegal after six weeks, which many women don't even know they're pregnant at that stage, is merely a loophole to claim you didn't ban abortions.

Now we protect the fetus but once it's born, it's free to go to school to get killed by a deranged person with an AR-15

yup, makes perfect sense to me.

So the only time someone can get an abortion is if the travel for it? Drop the emotional rhetoric.

In MD the state codified your right to one years ago. Many states have.

It seems you either didn't read the part about the six weeks or it simply doesn't fit into your agenda.

Or once again you think I am bound to answer to every leading "gotcha" point you make. I don't see why you can't understand a simple notion that you are not in control of my responses and I can address, or not address, them as I see fit.


My agenda has always been personal freedom and personal responsibility.

That's your only answer when you avoid points others make only to focus on your own. Somehow you make that their fault. I'm just pointing things out so everyone understands just exactly what it is you're doing. And it's not hidden well enough that everyone needs it explained to them.

"I'm not gonna address the points you made because I don't have to and you can't make me!" Hilarious.

j/c:

Could be an interesting night across the USA.

I am not dodging. I am just not answering your stupid questions.

Maybe you should help start some sort of Womans Benevolent Fund that would provide women without the means to go a few hundred miles to another state where abortion will be legal that helps them have their abortion. How much would that cost? The cost of a few tanks of gas and a few nights in some motel? That doesn't include the cost of the actual procedure.

As has been said, and for the record, I wouldn't be against some flexibility to allow in extreme cases as you mention. Add in the health of the woman or some select other extreme cases.

What do you say to that? LOL...nevermind.

You will do you and you will be you.

And you still have no right to demand I say anything it is you think I should say.

Take from it what you will, I could care less what you think of me. I don't cotton to people that use bully tactics to get their way.

j/c...

New corporate benefit?

I have a fund. It’s called the taxes that go to Planned Parenthood to help support women both that want and don’t want abortions but need medical care, pregnant or not. Your psychopathic side wants that shut down. Add to that there’d not be a need for such a fund if your side hadn’t stripped the rights of women away.
How about you start a fund to give good homes to the tens of thousands of kids already trapped in an overburdened foster system. No, instead you seek to add another wave of unwanted kids into the bogged down crap hole system.

Let me guess, you’re all for better systems… but continue to vote for the side that wants to cut funding and resources. Hope and prayers will fill the void I’m sure.

Stock tip…. buy shares of companies that run the private prison systems in the southern states. I’m sure they’re in the early stages of planning to build a bunch more now. They’re just 18 years away from doing brisk business.