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Brissett is 14-23 in the win loss column as a starter. One mention of his career was 'after a 6 game losing streak, he won the final game of the year." Mayfield gives the Browns a chance to win.
Going to Brissett would be like the Browns going back to Colt McCoy and Thaddeus Lewis when they were on the Browns.

The Browns are likely to lose a dozen games.
Haslam is likely to fire the HC because he, (Haslam), can't even follow a plan he Authors.
The Browns will have a """""""" first year"""""""" (as if we don't know what that means,) head coach the following year,
We're looking at the spring of 2025, (24?) at that point,
The Browns would have missed the playoffs, maybe lost a dozen games each year, and everyone is 3 years older.

They don't just shoot themselves in the foot...

And hey, why not a Superbowl year? Even the odds on, everybody's favorite has to have some breaks and a degree of luck to win it all, and even then, how often does that team fall short?

If our D plays to expectations, and we can run the ball to control clock, we can beat anybody. I don't buy the idea that if we play Brissett all season we don't stand a chance. As you said, if Brissett can take care of the ball, something Baker didn't do last year, we can win every game. I am not saying we will, but we have a good shot to win.

The key to this team is the D. That is the strength of this team.

I can agree with this modification. I think play-wise, he equates to a younger Tyrod Taylor, which isn't a bad thing for your back-up.

No it isn't, and it doesn't have to mean death if he starts. Brissett is IMO better than a lot of the guys we played at starter over the years. The difference is those guys didn't have any, or at least much help. On O. we have a very good O-line. We have the best running back room in the league, and least a couple of proven receivers and several who show promise.

Yes, I know, promise doesn't mean much until they deliver.

Add in a D who should be able to hold other teams to a reasonable point total, and we have a shot. I think we can still win the division...no doubt things will have to break our way.

Cade York might hold the key. If he makes kicks and hits the late game kicks, we will win some games.

I believe he can win some, but don't mistake that with me thinking Baker wouldn't be the way better option. This FO put us in this position with what's probably the most talented team since our return, and we are going to rely on a backup. I can't believe some people can't see that. This trade was one of the absolute craziest things this team has ever done. And if DW ends up accruing a year, but spends the max amount of time to still trigger that playing and every other second sidelined and not allowed anywhere near the team or coaches. Coming back and having to adjust from almost two years off the field, will not be easy.

j/c:

While I would rank Baker ahead of Brissett at this point in time, I don't agree w/those that are acting like Baker is far superior. Cherry picking stats from a small sample size is not realistic. Looking at the full four years is more fair.

I've watched a dozen of JB's games and every one of Baker's games...JB is far, far inferior to Baker. I don't need stats to see that.

The FO's motto is to always try to improve the roster. If JB gets the year off (again)...rolling with JB over Baker would indicate that the FO's stance is...well...selective at best.

While I disagree w/you, I won't quibble because we are both entitled to our opinions. We obviously have had far different evaluations of Baker's game over the years.

I think that prognosis is only true if we come out running moreso than we have in the past. IMO, broken-Baker is as good as Brissett on his best day, and we were still having him throw the ball around like crazy. I think that in order to still bag wins w/ our backup that our gameplan needs tweaking.

One could argue that there is less chances of KS dialing up less pass plays than there is Brissett playing beyond his contract.

j/c

The crazy talk of how we're no worse off with Brissett than we would have been with Baker is hilarious. How quickly people forget about 2020 and wish to dismiss the injuries of Baker in 2021. Watson is certainly better than baker and there's no legitimate argument to the contrary. But Brissett? That just shows the desperation people have gotten to with their hate for Baker.

There was more to last season than Baker's injuries. O-line injuries, IMO, were more impactful than Baker's. Then you have our WR corps missing guys and guys with nagging injuries all year, Hunt out for a good chunk, etc.

There is still the issue of what our RT position looks like Week1, but our injury issues extended far beyond just Baker, and shouldn't be as bad this coming year (knock on wood).

There were certainly several factors that contributed, I'll give you that. I was just keeping the topic focused on the claims as it related to Baker himself.