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Exactly. Snyder is being investigated by freaking Congress because of the allegations levied against him. How can anyone say that isn't a violation of the Personal Conduct policy unless they just want to see Watson punished severely?

Probably the same thing as the other 13 teams that had interest in Watson.

Which 9 of the 13, the vast majority of, said no thanks. I wonder why?

More like Watson saying "No Thanks" because of his no-trade clause. Let's not remake history as fun as it may be.

Right. Every team that needs/needed a QB called about Watson.

I know that the Browns were the first team unofficially eliminated

More like Watson saying "No Thanks" because of his no-trade clause. Let's not remake history as fun as it may be.

j/c:

This might have already been said here, and hell, maybe I even did but just forgot about it but it seems a little odd the the NFL is so adamant about publicly pushing the year-long/indefinite suspension narrative. I don't recall this ever happening with other cases.

I understand that those who want Watson punished will say there is no precedence. However, it's been stated by the NFLPA's hired gun that that will be used as a tool in their defense of Watson. The articles posted have clearly stated that. To deny it is crazy.

The problem with that line of thought is there is no past precedent of such extensive accusations against a player. Why people can't seem to see that is beyond me.

I don't recall anything like this in terms of conduct of an NFL player either. That should be an easy explanation for everyone.

More like Watson saying "No Thanks" because of his no-trade clause. Let's not remake history as fun as it may be.

Correct. Watson narrowed it to five teams he would be willing be to be traded to because of the no-trade clause. The Texans eliminated one of the five teams, which was the Colts, because they were within the division. That left four teams in the mix.

Which 9 of the 13, the vast majority of, said no thanks. I wonder why?

Can you show how many of those teams/offers the texans turned down and how many watson turned down? In fact, can you show how many of those teams actually made an offer after first contacting the texans?

We do know watson turned the browns down.... until "They made me an offer I couldn't refuse" happened.

So...no, you won't. Keep on, keeping on with those goalposts.

Although apparently true, I don't think Goodell would do this if the decision was something he didn't like. That would be a disaster.

I do believe Ed is incorrect. Watson would absolutely accept a hypothetical two game suspension. The only way it get bounced back to Goodell is if Watson appeals the suspension.

While the process is set up to send cases to an independent arbitrator, the change favors Watson in at least one sense: The league no longer has the sole ability to determine whether a personal conduct violation occurred. Instead, the NFL must come to its own determination and then have a third party weigh the evidence and testimony collected by the league and NFLPA, at which point judgment is rendered.


Once that happens, Watson’s disciplinary scenarios could go like this:

If the NFL determines no personal conduct policy violation occurred, he faces no discipline and moves on.

If the independent arbitrator determines no personal conduct policy violation occurred, Watson faces no punishment and moves on. Per the CBA, the NFL cannot appeal this decision from the arbitrator.

If the independent arbitrator determines a personal conduct violation occurred, the arbitrator can ultimately determine the punishment for the infraction. If the NFL disagrees with the punishment, the league can appeal it to Goodell, who ultimately has a significant measure of power over the process once it’s agreed that a violation took place.

What this means is that Watson’s future will first rest in the hands of an arbitrator. After that, if it’s found that a violation of the personal conduct policy occurred, his punishment will ultimately rest in the hands of the NFL and Goodell.


https://sports.yahoo.com/roger-good...s-personal-conduct-policy-014712381.html

Things get interesting once the Disciplinary Officer issues a decision. The Commissioner, or his hand-picked designee, continues to have full authority over the appeal. Based on the language of the policy, the Commissioner has broad powers when it comes to reviewing, revising, or reversing the Disciplinary Officer’s decision: “The decision of the Commissioner or his designee, which may overturn, reduce, modify or increase the discipline previously issued, will be final and binding on all parties.”

There’s an important caveat. While the Commissioner has the power to “overturn, reduce, modify or increase the discipline previously issued,” the Commissioner cannot alter a decision to not discipline the player at all. The league office has indeed confirmed that, if the Disciplinary Officer finds that there should be no discipline at all, the case is over.

That said, if any discipline whatsoever is imposed by the Disciplinary Officer (including, presumably, even a fine), the Commissioner has the power to “modify or increase” the punishment to whatever he wants it to be.

Thus, the Commissioner continues to have full and final say over all discipline under the Personal Conduct Policy. The Commissioner’s powers become short-circuited only if/when the Disciplinary Officer concludes that the player should experience no discipline. If any discipline is imposed, the Commissioner can change it in any way that he wants. With no appeal rights beyond that.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...iscipline-under-personal-conduct-policy/

I do believe Ed is incorrect. Watson would absolutely accept a hypothetical two game suspension. The only way it get bounced back to Goodell is if Watson appeals the suspension.

Section 4. One Penalty
The Commissioner and a Club will not both discipline a player for the same act or conduct. The Commissioner’s disciplinary action will preclude or supersede disciplinary action by any Club for the same act or conduct.

It does look like the League has the right appeal the decision. It looks like the new CBA set up the requirements to begin negotiations on a suspension 10 days prior to avoid an appeals process in the hopes of reaching an agreement. Unless Judge Robinson issues a suspension as low as two (maybe four) games I do not think the NFL will appeal the decision and will act in good faith with the new CBA process. Here is the actual language from Article 46 in the 2020 CBA.


(ii) The Disciplinary Officer will be responsible for conducting evidentiary hear-
ings (pursuant to the procedures of Section 2 below), issuing binding findings of fact and
determining the discipline that should be imposed, if any, in accordance with the Personal
Conduct Policy.
(iii) At least ten (10) calendar days prior to the hearing, the NFL shall inform the
NFLPA, player and Disciplinary Officer of the recommended terms of discipline.
(iv) The NFL will have the burden of establishing that the player violated the
Personal Conduct Policy. The NFL also will publish mitigating factors for discipline which
shall include acceptance of responsibility and cooperation, engagement with clinical re-
sources and voluntary restitution.
(v) The Disciplinary Officer’s disciplinary determination will be final and binding
subject only to the right of either party to appeal to the Commissioner. The appeal shall
be in writing within three business days of the Disciplinary Officer’s decision, and any
response to the appeal shall be filed in writing within two business days thereafter. The
appeal shall be limited to arguments why, based on the evidentiary record below, the
amount of discipline, if any, should be modified. The Commissioner or his designee will
issue a written decision that will constitute full, final and complete disposition of the dis-
pute and will be binding upon the player(s), Club(s) and the parties to this Agreement.

https://nflpaweb.blob.core.windows....aining-Agreement-Final-Executed-Copy.pdf