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Any other verdict will be heavily criticized by both the media and especially the female side of the public opinion. A retired female ex judge don’t want that debate surrounding her decision so she will take the safe option and leave the rest to Goodell
I think you are talking out your rear on this one...I am sorry...

First you don't know anything about this woman...Check https://www.cleveland.com/court-jus...he-deshaun-watson-disciplinary-case.html to learn more about her. She has taken heat from women's groups before...From what I read, I don't think gives a rat's behind to any group....I think it is one of the reasons she was accepted by both sides. I think she will be fair regardless if long or short sentence. I don't think it will be an indefinite suspension as I don't think she plays like that(JMO).

Secondly, a ruling by her....even if short...should speak loudly (even tho it won't reach many ears on this forum) As she is a woman...the NFL Lead investigator is a woman...And the Prosecutors in Texas were women (or at least one of them is) There were women on the grand juries and there was no indictment....Women are a Large part of this whole process. So if she were to say no violation (I don' think that likely) Why wouldn't that speak volumes???(just as a large sentence would)




On a separate note....I was wondering if Watson being out all last year will have any affect on the decisions being made. But as was posed before...Watson was on the 53 man roster and a healthy scratch for every game last year...So I don't think that will come into play at all. It was my own curiosity as I don't think it was reported that this would be brought up by Watson's Team or the NFLPA...


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Good post. I will just address this part.


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On a separate note....I was wondering if Watson being out all last year will have any affect on the decisions being made. But as was posed before...Watson was on the 53 man roster and a healthy scratch for every game last year...So I don't think that will come into play at all. It was my own curiosity as I don't think it was reported that this would be brought up by Watson's Team or the NFLPA...

I can't see any way that Watson would get credit for time served due to not playing last year. He wasn't suspended. He chose to not play. I am hoping he doesn't get suspended for more than a handful of games, but he should not get his suspension lessened just because he did not play last year.

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I seem to recall it mentioned somewhere that Watson basically did the NFL a favor last year sitting out. That meant they didn't need to make a decision last year. Whether that helps or hurts him time may tell, but we may never get to see that far behind the curtain with Roger.

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The NFLPA has maintained throughout its deliberations with the NFL that Deshaun Watson should not be suspended, source says. The league is arguing to Sue Robinson for an indefinite suspension of at least one full season, according to a source.

IMO...

...based on the language above the NFLPA's argument of "no suspension" is unrealistic, given the alleged conduct and charges facing Watson.

...the position of NFL "an indefinite suspension", looks to be realistic given the fact that all the evidence is not yet known, with several civil cases pending. Also, we do not have access to the information the NFL has already turned up with their investigation. An "indefinite suspension" could mean 6 games, 10 games or a complete season or more...and any suspension could be reduced.

Removing personal feelings toward Watson and focusing on just the facts of the case is difficult for Browns fans and viewpoints end up being biased as they attempt judge the Watson case. All of us are Browns fans and want what is best for the Browns based on our own moral compass. Not a damn thing wrong with varying opinions and should be expected.

...so we continue to wait...





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The NFLPA has maintained throughout its deliberations with the NFL that Deshaun Watson should not be suspended, source says. The league is arguing to Sue Robinson for an indefinite suspension of at least one full season, according to a source.

IMO...

...based on the language above the NFLPA's argument of "no suspension" is unrealistic, given the alleged conduct and charges facing Watson.

...the position of NFL "an indefinite suspension", looks to be realistic given the fact that all the evidence is not yet known, with several civil cases pending. Also, we do not have access to the information the NFL has already turned up with their investigation. An "indefinite suspension" could mean 6 games, 10 games or a complete season or more...and any suspension could be reduced.

Removing personal feelings toward Watson and focusing on just the facts of the case is difficult for Browns fans and viewpoints end up being biased as they attempt judge the Watson case. All of us are Browns fans and want what is best for the Browns based on our own moral compass. Not a damn thing wrong with varying opinions and should be expected.

...so we continue to wait...





The NFLPA's first job is to protect their clients, in the case Watson. Unless they have overwhelming evidence they can't fight, they will fight for him until the end. Doing less means they lose the confidence of their members and there would be changes. If the union was presented with a video recording of incidents that showed malicious behavior they might waffle around a bit but they wouldn't put up nearly the same fight like if they had nothing concrete staring them in the face.


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mac....When the NFLPA says he shouldn't be suspended, I think the argument is with precedence shown to the owners and prior cases...

But, I don't think that it precludes a fine or other discipline...

So in that light...I could see a case for it...depending on the severity of Judge Robinsons decision of whether the PCP was breeched.


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I am not going to fight w/you. Have a nice day.

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Originally Posted by PETE314
mac....When the NFLPA says he shouldn't be suspended, I think the argument is with precedence shown to the owners and prior cases...

But, I don't think that it precludes a fine or other discipline...

So in that light...I could see a case for it...depending on the severity of Judge Robinsons decision of whether the PCP was breeched.


[color:#FFFFCC]pete...due to the length of this thread and the likelihood that this thread is about to close, I responded in the Re: Will Watson play for the Browns this year (continued) thread..?


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I am not going to fight w/you. Have a nice day.

You think this is me starting a fight? Especially as a re-tort to you starting a fight with steve.

"Interesting. I find steve's post very easy to figure out."

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