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So you aren't replying to me anymore? Are you still ranting your BS name calling?

A one sided trial is a farce. It doesn't matter who is on trial. It is an affront to the republic. You are just blinded by your Stalinist hate.

Republicans were invited to form a bipartisan commission from the start. They (led by McCarthy) chose to boycott the entire thing. Really, really dumb. Now, folks like Gym Jockstrap have to sit on the sidelines, mute. Not my problem. It's like the old saying "if you don't vote, you can't complain." Can't win the game if you refuse to take the field.

Truthfully, it's refreshing to see a composed, coherent narrative being presented without the histrionics, obstruction, obfuscation and show faux outrage we usually get.

America gets rid of the clowns, andshe gets a proper investigation instead of a circus. win/win.


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It's not a one-sided trial, it's an investigation and bipartisan fact-finding effort. If it ever goes to trial, Trump will have the same opportunity to defend himself that every criminal gets to have. That is a lame and emotional talking point put out by pro-trump media. Last I heard criminals don't get to take part in investigations of themselves or grand juries. But he still gets his day in court if it comes to that.

Fact finding? Like that chick that lied under oath that Trump "lunged to grab the steering wheel". That kind of fact finding? Its a one party witch hunt circus at best. And a lying deceiving ishshow abomination at worst.

On what basis is she a liar? Who has testified under oath that what she said is not accurate?..... Yeah. No one.

The agents said she is lying and supposedly they will testify. Not to mention it was hearsay which shouldn't be allowed at all.

The formalized civil rules of evidence you’re implying don’t apply here. Also, mgh’s point still stands. She testified under oath. All we have to the opposite is implication that others would be prepared to testify to the opposite. That hasn’t happened yet, but you’ve drawn your conclusion it seems.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...h-Trump-did-NOT-grab-steering-wheel.html

Libtard liars desperately trying to control the narrative. Reaching so hard they have to make up lies then congratulating themselves on said lies.

You need to look further.

The truth is there if you really want to find it.

She was telling the truth and everyone who was involved knows it. She "was" part of team trump. She has no motivation to lie. None.

Neither do the republicans who have testified.

When ducks quack they prove they are ducks.

There you go again. First, if Hutchinson got any part of the hearsay testimony wrong, who is to say that is not what her coworkers told her? Second, until your side has proof and sworn testimony in front of the 1/6 committee, all you have is NADA. Most of the country found her credible. Third, again the committee is not the actual prosecution of Trump, and even though I spelled that out in plain English, you and your Trumpian cult can't wrap around that fact. The saddest part of dealing with your ilk is that you will deny anything that may taint your "chosen one." FFS, what have you become? You at least USED to care about right and wrong, the country, and the rule of law, but now you are just a pathetic shadow of a decent person I used to know.

Just like the folks that stormed the capital...

What you said literally corroborates everything I just said before you.

And your use of “libtard” in this case is geared toward a Republican aid for the Republican chief of staff for a Republican administration? Just want to confirm.

Denying the republican testimony given so far in these hearings is like lying to yourself.

To add to this - the SS agents have apparently known and discussed among themselves for a year+ that Trump was angry, wanted to go to the Capital Building to be among the armed mob, and was frustrated he was not "allowed" to go there. It's also been revealed/reported that the driver has testified to the committee but his memory of any details that day were not very clear.

Finally - there is a long list of Republicans from Trump's own circle - all testifying under oath. It doesn't matter if they are hand picked, it doesn't matter if the committee interviews people under oath on TV or not, it doesn't matter if they get dressed up in pantomime ... what matters is their sworn testimony.

And last I've seen those investigations and grand juries are not on prime time TV. This is a public witch hunt. You are comfortable because you are a NeverTrumper. This is trying him in public, again. Stalin would be proud.

Who controls who testifies? Pelsoi does of course. Do you think she is going to let a witness testify that has exculpatory testimony? Please. The Grand Inquisitor only wants people chanting "Witch!"

No, she wasn't lying. Why don't you just go full trumpian mode and call it a witch hunt? For those claiming this isn't fair. There are actually two "real Republicans" on the panel. Your party just disowns anyone looking for and speaking the truth now. If they're not full blown trumpians you call them RINO's and dismiss everything they say. How convenient.

There it is! The old trumpian standard line. The one size fits all BS line to excuse everything trump has done. "It's a with hunt and you're a communist!"

Do they say Sieg Heil at the political rallies you attend?

See how that works.

If trump had the balls to testify in front of the committee under oath I guarantee they would let him.
And Cipollini, and meadows, and stone ...

There it is! Calling some a Nazi when you don't agree with them.

Of course they would let him.

They would ask him stupid pointed questions and they would not allow him the opportunity to give any answer that would contradict the witch hunt. It is the same as it ever was.

No, they would let him talk until he was blue in the face because they know he would say something to incriminate himself. He does too which is why he is afraid to to do it.

Using your own tactics against you. Or did you forget your "Stalin would be proud" line?

Sometimes a dose of what you're handing out doesn't digest so well for you.

I think you are quite wrong. But you are entitled to your opinion. However contrived and distorted it needs to become and evolve into so that you can dismiss sworn testimony from conservatives, republicans and the many people who served for Trump.

As for the process and Pelosi controlling the narrative? I'll give you a tale of two committees.

[1] 2016 committee to investigate mass voter fraud in the Election Trump won. Trump's hand picked committee. Hand picked investigation. I think it spent nearly 2 years investigating - found NOTHING. Were you complaining about how partisan that committee was? Did you call it a kangaroo court then?

[2] Present day - Jan 6 investigation. GOP tried to stymie and sabotage it. Then tried to discredit it. Scores of sworn testimony. Much of it from conservatives. I'd say if anyone wants to pay attention there is a massive amount of evidence and testimony to indicate that Jan 6th was a coordinated event. And the format and process is much like the 2016 process - with the exception of Cheney and other Republicans cooperating in a more bi-partisan fashion.

The Nazi thing is all played out, very passe. I keep trying to teach you better, you keep refusing to learn.

And Stalin would be proud of this tribunal.

When you start talking like a duck, we'll call you a quack. But if you are walking like a Nazi... well, you're a smart guy, eventually, you will get it.

Two former White House aides say top Secret Service official defending Trump on Jan. 6 has history of lying

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...cial-may-lying-protect-trump/7796127001/

No subscription so no idea what it says.

wait.... two people who work in DC, the town of professional liars, are saying that the Secret Service person is the one that has a history of lying?


I can't read the article, but that sounds pretty suspect.

so, your calling her a liar with absolutely no proof.... There are those that are saying it's true,,, a few Trump SS guys saying it's not true... But we have a situation where the SS guys have been caught in lies... "THE CHICK" has not..

What's really funny to me is that the committee has shown us absolute proof that the events of Jan 6 lead back to Trump and his Gang that can't shoot straight..

Saying it wasn't an insurrection when it clearly was.

Saying they were peaceful when clearly, they weren't., go look at the videos

Saying it was Antifa or BLM when it clearly wasn't.. Again, look at the videos.

It was a bunch of white trash with the brain power of a three toed sloth.

For those that actually watch the hearings and still hide from the truth.

What can be said?

It is not like the people testifying are democrats. They are trump allies who were there. The whole truth and nothing but the truth is coming out.

Those running from what has been exposed simply put don't want to know the truth. They will continue to run to sources that will give them their lies so they can agree.

Jan 6th. was one of the worst days in American history. It must be exposed to the light of truth in order to move forward and learn. If we do not hold those who were behind it accountable for their criminal acts. Then we might as well tear up the Constitution and rule of Law.

Honest question for you: So having witnessed the entire Cult of Trump experience... having seen how Trump operates, and how he - without doubt - appeals to a section of society that will ardently follow him anywhere, will overlook anything he says or does in their zest to follow him on the things that resonate and appeal to them most - borders, immigrants, SC appointees ... whatever it be. You don't believe it's possible that one or two of the SS - military/gun loving/red blooded Americans - couldn't have bought into Trump at some point and be willing to deflect and be marginal with their recollections of events?

I have the greatest respect for all military, law enforcement and veterans at all levels - but I also think we have the same % of rotten apples in those barrels as we do through the rest of professional occupations in our society. Hutchinson's testimony was sincere and compelling. Her character has been vouched for by Republicans that worked with her. But there is a reaction by the Trump supporters to - [1] try to assassinate her character [2] Call all her testimony hearsay [3] pick one aspect of her testimony and dispute it - and the one aspect they are disputing might be one of the least important or relevant pieces of testimony she presented. For more important is the revelation that Trump desperately wanted to be at the Capital Building and lead this armed mob. A fact that has since been confirmed and re-confirmed by sources and many within the SS as common knowledge.

Because DC is a cesspool of political maneuverings and lying - doesn't mean that the SS are telling the truth. I think the bigger picture lends a lot of credibility to Hutchinson.

All I know is that I am FAR more likely to believe a Secret Service agent than any White House aide/intern/employee.

One side of that lives and breathes the political world, the other has their job regardless of who or what is in whatever office and their job doesn't change.
One side of that changes allegiances at the drop of a hat to stay relevant and close to power, the other side has literally taken oaths and undergone training to serve and protect without regard for the personality or political leanings of the people they are charged with protecting.
One side literally lives in a profession that openly lies as part of the job, the other side is literally the foremost investigative force in the United States.


I don't have to look any further than that.

So has the communism thing but that doesn't seem to stop you. I mean since you're attempting to be some kind of teacher. You should update your notes. There are two republicans on the committee. Actually it's their questions to the witnesses that have done the most damage. Try to keep up. Let me guess, since those two Republicans are looking for the truth and are finding it you don't claim them as republicans anymore?

Or maybe look further into it and notice that she testified under oath while some un-named source says that these SS agents are willing to testify under oath. When they actually man up and testify under oath then I will reconsider.

I saw an article a few days ago, don't remember where so take this for what it's worth, but supposedly one of them did testify under oath to the committee and his recollection of the events were "hazy" and he couldn't remember the details.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/fulton...-confidantes/POUNSTTUXZDGDB3D5LKA7TIQQM/


The Fulton County special grand jury investigating potential criminal interference in Georgia’s 2020 elections has subpoenaed key members of former President Donald Trump’s legal team, including his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, according to copies obtained by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

In addition to Giuliani, those being summoned include John Eastman, Cleta Mitchell, Kenneth Chesebro and Jenna Ellis, all of whom advised the Trump campaign on strategies for overturning Democrat Joe Biden’s wins in Georgia and other swing states.

The grand jury also subpoenaed U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), one of Trump’s top allies, along with attorney and podcast host Jacki Pick Deason.

Another good day for ketchup no doubt.

The whole thing is a damn sham... I'm not the biggest trump fan... but this is such a one sided political show boat... it's a third impeachment trial without an opposing side...

Hey whole 'testimony' would have been ripped to shreds in a real trial..

Well, I have to believe you because it's obvious you are not a BIG TRUMP FAN.

Like his policies and the fact that he's not a life long politician... but his lack of effort to stop Jan 6 was the last straw for me... I've never voted democrat because I disagree with almost all of their policies... but I'd prefer to not vote for Trump... will vote against him if he runs again in the primary... but if the democrats put Biden back on the ticket there's no way in hell I can vote for him and will be forced to vote for an independent candidate or Trump...

Both sides need to do better on candidates...

but that still doesn't change the fact that this 'partisan committee' is nothing more than a political sham... it's bull [censored] and a waste of money... nothing new has been presented... and frankly it probably will lead to Trump wanting to run more.. I pray he doesn't run... because unfortunately, if he runs, I think he gets the republican nomination and frankly think he's the only republican who could lose the 2024 election...