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Yeah, making the playoffs and winning a playoff game in your first year under a new HC sucks. Unless of course you wish to pretend that his injury didn't have a huge impact last season. Which seems to be a rather popular theme. He turned a dumpster fire into a playoff winning team. The FO gave up all of its bargaining power and put itself in this position and people wish to blame Baker for that too.

Nobody needs to give you the farm for a player they know you have to unload because of your own doing. But I know, ignore all of that and blame Baker for it.


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Baker will always be a favorite in my book. His enthusiasm and positive attitude made him a little bit special.

On a side note I can’t say I’m especially impressed with how Stefanski and Berry has handled this.

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Good luck Baker in Carolina.


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Originally Posted by FrankZ
I do wish him well but I am glad that this drama is over.

oh, you do overestimate this place rofl


I'm surprised the compensation is so low. For reals.... a conditional 2024 pick??
Well, week 1 will be drama filled, and it'll be interesting to see what he can garner as a free agent next offseason.


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Sometimes I do try to look on the brighter side of humanity.

The drum beaters will beat the drum though.

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Some on here over valued Mayfield .predicted he would
Be traded for a 2nd RD pick .
Sorry just cause you win a playoff game doesn't make you
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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

I might talk my son into making a road trip north to place a bet for me. This is the type of situation that brings out his best.


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j/c:

Last season was rough for Baker and all us fans but overall I thought he played pretty well here in Cleveland and gave us something to believe in, at least for a little while. I wish him well, unless he's playing against the Browns.

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I might talk my son into making a road trip north to place a bet for me. This is the type of situation that brings out his best.

As a result of Baker's arrival I like the chances of his teammate, Christian McCaffrey, to be a better play.


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Good trade. Looks like everybody wins.

I will be interested to see what the conditional part of the draft pick means. Is the 5th the best it can be or is the 5th the lowest it can be?


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I don't know, but the $10.5 million is a real thing. We basically paid to get him off the team.

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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
I don't know, but the $10.5 million is a real thing. We basically paid to get him off the team.

Sure, but we were going to pay him 18 mil to keep him or cut him. So that being the case, it was a good trade.


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5th is lowest. It can escalate to a 4th conditionally.

Apparently it's 2024 draft though.

I was hoping for a conditional 3rd in 2023. Oh well.


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AND Baker had to chip in a few million.


The chip on his shoulder at this point probably has its own gravitational pull.


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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
I don't know, but the $10.5 million is a real thing. We basically paid to get him off the team.

It’s called a contract. Google it if you’re unsure.

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His best year was

26 TDS
8INTS
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Which would have ranked 12th last (2021) year just ahead of Teddy Bridgetwater and behind Justin Herbert.


His best year was average last year. Something obviously happened in the locker room, there is absolutely no question about that. His crybaby antics, calling out the fans in pressers, having his wife complaining about fans and the team on twitter.

Leading men and boys is just not the same thing, we see it all the time in the NFL. I thank him for his efforts they were the most fun i've had as a Browns fan since I can remember.


He's a poor mans Ryan Fitzpatrick with a social media problem.

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Good luck Baker. You gave it your all In Cleveland. You embrased the fans and the city. I'm sorry that it didn't work out for you or the Cleveland fans. I wish you the best of luck in the future. You deserve it bud.

As a Browns fan - hard to understand that the guy who came in and helped turned a 1-31 team around thru much adversity doesn't get the same measure of respect from everyone. Nice, classy post GM.


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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

Vegas are clearly dumb Baker Fan Boys and don't know jack chit about the QB position or how bad Baker is. LOL


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Originally Posted by RedBaron
5th is lowest. It can escalate to a 4th conditionally.

Apparently it's 2024 draft though.

I was hoping for a conditional 3rd in 2023. Oh well.

Is that verified? I guess it would escalate if the panthers sign baker to a new deal after the season.


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And we're off to the races.

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Well - it was you that first mentioned and brought up Baker in the 'Back to Football' thread (to explain to everyone how mediocre/bad he is) and then several pages later you asked why people were talking about Baker and said it was the usual suspects that introduced him to that thread ... when it was you. And here your comment was that we paid someone to take him off our hands, implying again that he is not a good QB. The reality is that everyone (and I mean everyone) has acknowledged the Browns were always going to have to pay $8-10 million of his contract. . . .

Because of the timing Wentz was traded for two 3rd round picks. Do you think Wentz is better, worse or about the same as a starting QB in the NFL (when both are healthy)? That right there might shed some light on whether the Browns got value for the QB you claim was always going to be off the team after game 17 last season.


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Good luck, Baker. Thanks for some great moments on the field, and some pretty funny ones off the field too ...




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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
I don't know, but the $10.5 million is a real thing. We basically paid to get him off the team.

I read Baker accepted 3.5 mill less this year. Panthers sold it as a chance to show what he could do. Also saw the pick was a conditional 4th, so maybe 4 is best, 5th worst case scenario.

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You started at the pole position years ago. No need to act surprised now.


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Originally Posted by FORTBROWNFAN
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I don't know, but the $10.5 million is a real thing. We basically paid to get him off the team.

I read Baker accepted 3.5 mill less this year. Panthers sold it as a chance to show what he could do. Also saw the pick was a conditional 4th, so maybe 4 is best, 5th worst case scenario.

I haven't seen or heard anything about a conditional 4th rounder.


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I don't know, but the $10.5 million is a real thing. We basically paid to get him off the team.

I read Baker accepted 3.5 mill less this year. Panthers sold it as a chance to show what he could do. Also saw the pick was a conditional 4th, so maybe 4 is best, 5th worst case scenario.

I haven't seen or heard anything about a conditional 4th rounder.




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Thanks, i just read that myself as I looked around. That still isn't a conditional 4th rounder.

But sounds good that a 4th could be on the table. I would expect he can meet the markers to upgrade the pick to a 4th rounder.


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How many INTs will Baker throw week 1...2,3 or 4.

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34-35-435 yards and 5 TD's.

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Your tweet is as comical as it gets.

Everyone has a brighter future than the browns. Happy about your future with a qb likely suspended for the year, with his despicable behavior? You are sad.

If the browns do somehow eventually win with DW it will be with a disgusting stain. Glad you’ll be able stomach it.

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How many INTs will Baker throw week 1...2,3 or 4.

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So you expect Darnold to beat him out?!


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Clealry I hope Baker does well in the future ... but that was funny.


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Originally Posted by Baker_Dawg
Your tweet is as comical as it gets.

Everyone has a brighter future than the browns. Happy about your future with a qb likely suspended for the year, with his despicable behavior? You are sad.

If the browns do somehow eventually win with DW it will be with a disgusting stain. Glad you’ll be able stomach it.

Somehow, those who attack long-time Browns fans have no problem w/this guy's continued insults directed towards our team and fans.

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We should get the 4th rounder because I think that Baker will win the QB competition w/Darnold.

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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
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How many INTs will Baker throw week 1...2,3 or 4.

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So you expect Darnold to beat him out?!
No . In fact I expect Baker to have a good year
Huge weight off his shoulders .fresh start .
He isn't under pressure to carry the offense
Now he is playing for a coach that is in a win now mode
If Carolina can have success on the ground
Then Mayfield can thrive
But Mayfield can't carry the offense

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Your tweet is as comical as it gets.

Everyone has a brighter future than the browns. Happy about your future with a qb likely suspended for the year, with his despicable behavior? You are sad.

If the browns do somehow eventually win with DW it will be with a disgusting stain. Glad you’ll be able stomach it.

Somehow, those who attack long-time Browns fans have no problem w/this guy's continued insults directed towards our team and fans.

You can call it an attack, an insult, or whatever else you like, but it’s the truth. Sorry that stings. I’d rather go down in flames with baker than sell my soul to win football games.

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[quote=FrankZ]I'm surprised the compensation is so low. For reals.... a conditional 2024 pick??

Agreed. With the price so low I would have thought there would have been interest from other teams.

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Originally Posted by Baker_Dawg
Your tweet is as comical as it gets.

Everyone has a brighter future than the browns. Happy about your future with a qb likely suspended for the year, with his despicable behavior? You are sad.

If the browns do somehow eventually win with DW it will be with a disgusting stain. Glad you’ll be able stomach it.

are you a fan of the team, or just baker as your name suggest?


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