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LMAO. No reason? Did you not read the Myles article? Folks are ruining the board because they root for the Browns instead of Baker? Fairweather fickle fans? You mean the ones defending an ex-player and trashing the Browns?

I really hope and pray that you can stay off the dialysis and get that heart in shape. I"m looking forward to "What I Saw.", no matter how the game goes.

God bless you and keep you healthy eotab.

At least I'm not alone on an island.
How screwed up it is to publicly state I'm rooting for the Browns opponent, it's sick, and I don't even know how I'll really feel when the game kicks off tomorrow,
but My head wants to root for a winner, and I'm so So Soo sick of feeling like the loss-ness of the Browns losing every year and not sticking w/ a plan, or of it being of their own decision making.
I'm more a fan of Mayfield to Higgins than I am of feeling like I took my dog to the vet every week to have it put down.
I loathe the thought of rooting for Brissett, or being asked to root for Brissett. (The book on him is out, everyone knows his level of play.)

I don't like that part of me believes the NFL, and some of those in it that hate Cleveland, just decided to push the Watson scandal onto Cleveland and let the Browns fans deal with it.
I disagree that Watson is guaranteed to magically be some super hero better @uarterback player without a doubt when/if He does suit up.
( I think it MOCKS ME, my intelligience, and history of watching football, to feel like the NFL World asks me to shut up: take the medicine: and believe what I'm told about these situations: in spite of my own eyes and results on the field. That it is somehow acceptable to be given this Barbars st reisand.

Is it so much to ask of the Browns that I don't feel like they are intending to rain down my back and tell me it's raining.

After being a fan in 2006, that abysmal year of 2006 when it felt like there was nothing, literally nothing of a football team that had any foundation at years end, and 39+ years at least actually, and putting up with 2009-20II-20I2 and then suffering along through 20I5-20I7...

When the team makes Their OWN DECISION on that pick, that #I overall pick in 20I8,
and He actually wins, They actually won like 8 games a year about average, ( could be wrong, but it feels like 8 average)
after all of that,
They can't even stick with the guy...(The guy They chose... when they had the #I overall pick so nobody was kept from them...) through his 5th year option of his original contract.
What is this team doing?
What can be defended as a "direction" what can possibly be a defendable strategy this team has taken since Depo began as a job title of "chief strategy officer" because it seems that all they've done consistently is change ideas.

I pray for your recovery and good health eo. Do what the doctors say, and trust in God for healing.

Carolina is doomed now fer sure!

I wish I could come to grips with what makes you tick with this Baker stuff.

You bring Baker into every thread. Sarcasm, snide remarks, call-outs and down right rudeness... and stuff straight from outer space... coach speaks highly of current QB and we get "read between the lines". GTHOH.

And then complain if anyone responds. Not only complain, scream bloody-murder that they are ruining the board.

If you could go one day without mentioning his name, it would be a day that nobody talks about Baker. The imaginary "Baker Boys" would disappear because there would be none of your tripe to respond to.

Try it. Just one day... and then one day at a time.

It may come to the point someone will need to make a 12 step program for that.

He hates Baker. So much that he had to leave the board because at one point Baker was playing very well. Then Baker got hurt, played very badly when he probably should of been placed on IR and ... hey presto he returned. Truth be told he clearly really does hate Baker. It seems to chaff him that some Browns fans are grateful for Baker and what he did in his short time here considering he joined a 1-31 team at the time... And we all know how Vers sets up and frames debates and tries to control the narrative, it's impossible not to notice we've gone from how truly woeful and immature Baker is and his new team being a bottom 5 roster in the NFL - to paving the way to explaining away a possible Browns loss after week 1. That's been going on for a few weeks now. I can't image what we'll see if Baker miraculously plays half way decent, doesn't lose the game by throwing multiple picks and the Panthers win.

I try to stay out of the squabbles, but that has no place here IMO.

um..
Lb Jordan Kunaszyk has been elevated from the ps. and activated, (and yes I had to read it as I spelled it.)

Isaac Rochelle, DE, who didn't make the original 53, is also elevated from the PS for game one and will be active.

WR Micheal Woods is out. for the Browns (the 6th rounder out of OKLA)

WR David Bell is apparently going to be a WR option on the Browns, with no mention of his foot injury, or shoulder last year.

From, one day ago, Pfeifer rules Demetric Felton, and Donovan Peoples-Jones as the primary returners.

So, the Browns passing receivers, that aren't a TE, are speculated to be?

Amari Cooper.
Demetric Felton,
Donovan Peoples-Jones
Anthony Schwartz
and David Bell, don't forget David Bell.

But Micheal Woods has been ruled out, and Harley is still on the P.S. so,

But, With Rochell active, and apparently Isaiah Thomas active, and the rookie draft pick active,
and with Clowney active, and with Myles Garret active,

and with A. Walker active, and Jacob Phillips active, and Taki Taki, and J.O.K active, well
Passing downs on defense could be fun.

I wouldn't give 2 pieces of Paper if Winovich or his counterpart are active, doesn't matter, imo.

As long as it's Baker- to Higgins, vs. Brissett - to Schwartz, you know who the real favorite is.

What you and the other trouble makers think means nothing to me.

Jc

I was hoping to see some of Woods because I fear our WRs need a diamond in the rough to excel.

But I’m not mad about promoting Rochelle either

We're going to get Baker with a chip on his shoulder throwing to Higgins who felt under-appreciated here. Anything can happen, but I expect a long day and a lot of wrist slitting, like almost every opener since the return.

I wish he would’ve activated his chip on the shoulder super power last year a couple times. We could’ve then made the playoffs.

I an not intelligent enough to follow your entire post, but I ask you this...........You suggest that your intelligence is being mocked because you don't believe how the Browns thought more of Watson than Baker. Does your superior intelligence also question the rest of the NFL? I mean, multiple teams were lined up willing to offer Houston the farm for Watson despite his off the field issues. Yet, no one wanted Baker at a far, far, fare lower price and the Browns had to pay to trade him. Please explain how your intelligence can explain how the entire NFL was wrong for valuing Watson far, far more than Baker?

Your explanation can wait eleven games.
You gave up 3 first round future picks. (Plus) more
You heard about a 230 million dollar fully gurarnteed contract.
Your @uarterback got suspended and got talked about in sexual situations all summer long.
You went from Baker Mayfield, getting healthy and running it forward
To now you have Jacoby Brissett and you're expected to, we're expected to just root for it like it's not a bunch of messed up (stuff).

............ when you say ........... that, I suggest that my intelligience is being mocked because the Browns thought more of Watson than Baker. <<< (That is incorrect, don't put words in my mouth, because, it has nothing to do with a Watson to Baker Comparison, It has nothing to do with a Watson to Baker Comparison. It seems it must have been an incorrect understanding of what you thought I meant.

Because what we have is a
Lose Baker, Pay For Watson, and Get Brissett. ( I'm not rooting for Brissett.)

I have to laugh at those who claim Watson is not a great QB. He always was, and will be in the future. This year might have got messed up, but believe me, when this guy plays full time, people are going to see how good he really is

That makes two of us and probably a significant number of others. Personally, I think BM tried his hardest all year. But he couldn't get it done between his injury and other setbacks like the OBJ stunt. The OBJ thing split the team, split the fans, and put a ton of pressure on everyone involved. The fault for last year belongs on many plates, not just Baker. Unfortunately, we can argue about our points of view until we are blue in the face. What's done is done, and we move forward. The odds are that this year will suck, but according to most, there will be a gleaming future starting next year that may last a decade or more. I think after this game, the Baker BS will fade. The personal attacks are probably here to stay, though.

Yea, agreed with moving forward.

Speaking for me (I mean who else would I speak for?), I am expecting 8-10 wins. We have a very talented team. In years past when we’ve sucked, we obviously never had a QB,,,but we also didn’t have the talent at other positions like we do now.
We’ll see.

I agree Bone and I'm going to say what every Browns fan feels; I wish he was playing all season.

I like how the panthers have a few castaways from the ol browns..gonzales, erving, austin, higgins, baker,

I believe that Memphis

I know at least 7 people from work and friends here in Canton have traveled down.

They are meeting with the Browns backers in the south Muni lot. I guess that's what they call the lot they tailgate in.

I wish I could have made the trip

If I had been visiting my folks this weekend I would have attempted to get tickets.

j/c…

Latest update.

Weather here is sun and clouds and no rain this morning so far.

If it rains it will benefit us more because of our run game.

Baker will be fired up and can't wait to prove the Browns wrong. I'm sure going into this game with a backup QB wasn't Haslam's and Berry's plan when they made the trade for Watson. Browns are going to have to win with defense and the run game. If the Browns come out flat and not ready to play, this game could get ugly fast. I say the Browns win a close one.

I picked the Browns in the pickems but my reasoning may be much different than some others. I think a healthy McCaffrey helps neutralize the run game. Not only is he an excellent runner, he is also a heavy threat at catching the ball. When you combine that with the situation at the C and RT positions for the Browns I think the running game will be fairly equal. My hope is also that Baker won't light it up. If that scenario plays out, the game could certainly be decided on the kicking game. The Browns have Cade York. Advantage Browns.