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Defense could be really special. Stifling all day.
DPJ looking like he did as a rookie.
Cade York - my heart sings!
Brissett - I think we'd do better with Dobbs.
Game didn't feel as if it should have been close - but we won because of an awesome kick and a lucky roughing the passer call.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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The stillers and bengals might end in a tie. Cincy fumbled at the 50 with I:39 to go in OT. Then had to punt it away to Pitt. with 0:56 to play in OT.
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i agree, but its the 1st game of the season. we walked out with a W using a backup QB.
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First week of the NFL has been pretty disgraceful to watch. Better off not watching it.
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i agree, but its the 1st game of the season. we walked out with a W using a backup QB. Yep, at the end of the day, all that matters is the W.
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i agree, but its the 1st game of the season. we walked out with a W using a backup QB. Yep, at the end of the day, all that matters is the W. The W and validation that we have a pretty awesome Kicker.
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I’m concerned about the miscommunication in our secondary again. It happened a lot last year (with Harrison/Delpit) and it showed itself again twice
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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oh, and our run defense was very good today. held the panthers to 2.8 yards a rush. The Baker Mayfield effect. Baker took advantage of two blown coverages; otherwise he was pretty pedestrian. Brissett is bad. Another season, another 2 to 3 blown coverages a game for Woods and his D. This game should have never been close. Our best players played like our best players.
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If you look at the stats 217 yards rushing, sacking Baker 4 times and we only allowed them 54 yards rushing the game shouldn't have been that close. No matter, most important we won and an opening game at that!!!!!
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I also thought Clowney played a good game today. he was good against the run and active with his hands
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The t-shirt wasn't a big deal! He only licensed them! He can't control what his marketing team does! He doesn't control his brand! Much ado about nothing!
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Brissett looked terrible IMO. Our run game is awesome.
Stephanski going for it on fourth down is going to lose us games this year. If they kick the field goal in the first quarter the game would have been won. I'm with the other poster who asked what has John Johnson done since he has been here. Delpit blew that play, but JJ is the leader of the defensive backfield and I don't get the hype he gets.
Mayfield healthy looked like Mayfield hurt. He did nothing. Both scores were on busted coverage.
Throw was claiming we beat a bottom tier team, but they were favored. This game should not have been close. The busted coverage that let Baker hit an uncovered man down field looked very familiar. Letting the middle of the field be unoccupied for Baker to run it in looked very familiar. Woods better make some adjustments.
We had recievers open. Hunt had a touchdown if Brissett hits him early in the game. Schwartz actually made a catch and it was one that mattered. DPJ showed he can be a reliable go to.
I don't remember any false starts, that is a good thing. Holding McCafferry in check was a good thing.
1-0 feels good, but Jacoby needs to up his game, or we are in for some rough times.
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I also thought Clowney played a good game today. he was good against the run and active with his hands I have a whole new appreciation for Clowney. He's his own man, he beats to his own drum, but damn he's good. Myles is an offense wrecker.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I also thought we should have kicked the fg in the first half from the 37 (or whatever it was). We have a good kicker so we have to use it especially with such a bad QB
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18/34 for 147 yards with a 4.3 AVG is not going to help us win games.
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I also thought we should have kicked the fg in the first half from the 37 (or whatever it was). We have a good kicker so we have to use it especially with such a bad QB I think part of the deal on not kicking then was to give York a easy kick to start. He ended up with a PAT after that. I agree on the going for it. I think the team now sees we can stretch the scoring zone a bit with York. You are still going to want to punt sometimes and play field position, but this game is an indicator of what we will get this year. Close games. Every point counts as they say. We can't pass up possible points. I just want to caution people that York isn't going to make 58 yard kicks like he is going to make 38 yard kicks. We have to remain realistic.
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Ok, not much too add, but Brisset is not going to scare any teams.
The run game saw 8-9-10 in the box and was still effective.
York saved the win, it should have been a loss.
All things said Baker is a better QB than JB.
Lots of calls for Dobbs in the game day thread.
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Yeah no doubt about that. I understand easing him into the game (and career) … but that cap is off now haha.
A key for us will continue to be 3rd and short and how well we can execute there
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York more famous than Sgt. in Cleveland. Glad that baby hooked some to go in.....Coach needs to get hit in the head with a hammer for giving points away over and over.....HIS fast start montra almost cost us the game.....yes, seven is better than three....BUT zero after a great start down the field lays an EGG. Get points early in the game. SWEET we won, but damn they are hard on a heart....GO BRowns!!!
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100% coach needs new brain giving points away. Our QB played like he plays- NO INTERCEPTIONS, no fumbles, his rating was close or better than healthy Baker. He didn't lose game AND could take credit for winning it after D imploded. Lucky we are 1-0....Go Browns!!!
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Love hearing Jimmy D all a game winner
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"Baker took advantage of two blown coverages; otherwise he was pretty pedestrian. "
That's what good QB's do,, and Baker had what, 6 weeks to learn a new system... I thought the kid did very well..
I'm glad that we won, but it wasn't like we walked all over him and the Panthers.
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Lots of calls for Dobbs in the game day thread. And if Watson started after a bad quarter two there would have been calls for Brissett, and after he had a couple bad quarters there would have been calls for Dobbs and after he had a couple bad quarters there would have been calls for Mond. Not out of the normal for that thread lol
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I believe you have this correct.
To add, I think if the QBs had been swapped this would not have been a close game.
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All I will say at this point is, Browns won. Chub and Hunt were............Chub and hunt. DPJ made some great catches. JB proved what he is: A backup. D looked okay, except for when they didn't.
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but it wasn't like we walked all over him and the Panthers. That's exactly what the Browns did other than a couple of blown coverages and despite some pretty mediocre QB play.
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stefanski needs to question is play calling We ran the ball 33 times for 207 yards 6.3 yards per carry. Our QB is horrible. What else do you want him to do? Run more. We honestly have the ability to do what the Ravens did with Jamal Lewis for years.. Run.. Run.. Run... Run.. and then run some more. ______ My game observations: Gotta chill on the defensive mental blow ups though. We cannot just GIVE teams free points. Overall, they played pretty well. They kept McCaf under control and kept pressure on Baker and/or deflected his passes. Offensively, I had ZERO confidence we could get into FG range. Glad I was wrong. Gotta lean on Chubb/Hunt and whoever else to pound the rock. I was a little pissed by not taking the 3 points in the first quarter. I understand trying to give your offense some confidence, but NFL games are too close, and we don't have a game changing QB to make up for these misses. Felton at punt returns has me nervous as hell. DPJ stepped up. Bryant made some crucial catches as well. Cooper did some great things out there, and him burning the DB led us to getting a TD on the PI. Schwartz is only valuable for an end around, and even then I think other players would be better at it. Glad we got the W. Football is BACK! #gobrowns.
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The t-shirt wasn't a big deal! He only licensed them! He can't control what his marketing team does! He doesn't control his brand! Much ado about nothing!
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oh, and our run defense was very good today. held the panthers to 2.8 yards a rush. D and York are the reasons we won, for sure. But you gotta admit, Woods made a couple of head-scratchers during the fourth quarter. I hate the pins and needles we had to sit on after Mayfield's long TD pass for a 1-play score. We should have dominated this game wire to wire if our QB and backfield D were on point. Regretfully they are not. Great win, but we have a ton to work on. We can definitely thank Matt Rhule for only giving CMC 10 carries and coming out with an all out passing attack to start the game as well.
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Defense played a pretty a good football game except for a couple miscommunications in the secondary, only gave up 261 total yards and held their run game to 54 yards ... Garrett 2 Sacks on pace for 32  Team had 4 total sacks harassed Baker most of the Game batting down numerous passes early ... Hats off to Delpit on his pick ... Jacoby Brissett played pretty good managing things although man how many open WR's did he miss early, but no TO's he was 18-34, 147 YDS, 1 TD Our Run Game Dominated Chubb 22 Carries 141 Yds. 6.4 YPC WHY WHY WHY does Stefanski insist on taking him out in the Red Zone? Kareem Hunt had a great game also He had 11 carries 46 Yds. 4.2 YPC 1TD and 4 Catches 24 Yds. and a TD ... Shout to the whole DL for continuous pressure on Baker ... I thought Our DT's Played Well ... The OL played Great only giving up 1 sack and open some huge holes for these RB's ... Hats off to Ethan Pocic on a great Job in his first start and James Hudson replacing Jack Conklin ... Our WR's played pretty DPJ 6 Catches 60 Yds. 10.0 YPC and what huge 3rd down catch for Anthony Schwartz ... But the Biggest tip of the cap goes to Cade York 4-4 FG's Including that 58Yard Bomb to win the game ... 1-0 for the first time since 2004 ... GO BROWNS 
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If you look at the stats 217 yards rushing, sacking Baker 4 times and we only allowed them 54 yards rushing the game shouldn't have been that close. No matter, most important we won and an opening game at that!!!!! So the kicker kicking a 58 yard field goal acted like a Heimlich maneuver for the Incredible CHOKE JOB the Head Coachs' game plan resulted in. I don't know how, you can consistently, consistently Blow leads in the 2nd half, when you out rush your opponent on the ground by VERY BIG Margins. There must be some analytic, that results in this as similar things happen, more than once. The Stiller playoff game. The Chargers game last year, The stiller @ualifyer game? The at the Giants game? <No, not that one, maybe it was the at the Jets game, in 2020. The win at the Cowboys up so big at halftime, other games Over and over and over again, since Stefanski became coach, they just Choke leads in the 2nd half and even when they win them, they barely survive. And like the Opener against the Chiefs last year, they don't always win them. Browns @uarterback had I6 incompletions (too high a percentage) and the Panthers @uarterback had I2 incompletions or interceptions. on a few, maybe 4 fewer pass attempts, (So a not as high of a percentage or attempts that did not end in a completion.) Sounds like the Browns @b was inaccurate, dunno, but, get ready for a whole lot of Punts when the Browns play Real defenses, and real full sized front 7's and AFC North opponents. A Whole lot of punts, and turnovers.
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First season opener win since 2004... with a backup Qb... good job boys...
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A Win to open the season and no injuries reported! Next……
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Injuries is a good point .. don’t really recall anybody even being shaken up
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