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Originally Posted by Rishuz
He should be told to fair catch it no matter how far away the defense is. Direct order.

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I think they were just complaining about a call and on the field
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I missed what happened, but what was the sideline interference on Carolina about?


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j/c:

I just read pages 16 and 17 of the Gameday thread. LMAO!!! Do y'all feel stupid?

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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
I think they were just complaining about a call and on the field
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I missed what happened, but what was the sideline interference on Carolina about?

They must have been REALLY complaining.. sheesh.

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id rather sign OBJ back than deal with Schwartz


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Certain posters still bashing on Baker must not have watched the game I watched today. I saw baker come in with a team that was ranked 32nd in power rankings during March and May. I saw a team currently ranked at 24 come within a Cade York miracle of kicking our asses. And I know I was conflicted for this game because I wanted baker to shut down the BS bashing he has been taking from the DW fanboy's club, yet I also wanted this win! They will never shut up, but Baker did enough to shut them up. And now I can enjoy the rest of the year, at least until DW comes back, if he comes back. Then the excuses and lies will go into overtime again until all the fans are rooting for DW or run off the board by extremist posters who think they control everything or it's tearfully unfair to them. You know the type.


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I'd rather hope Schwartz figures it out than bring in a has-been-diva who straight acted like a punk here and then called his daddy to have him throw the QB under the bus. We have too many losers around here now.


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Some people talk about the game. Other people talk about other posters.

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Originally Posted by superbowldogg
id rather sign OBJ back than deal with Schwartz

I'd love to have OBJ back. We know that Browns players are reaching out to him to bing him back. They wanted him over Baker when Baker did him dirty. However, I think OBJ is happy in LA and they really want to keep him. Not sure if anyone saw the recent exchange w/him and Kupp?

It's a shame we lost a great talent for a below average qb.

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Do we have anyone on the roster who has experience catching punts? We can't afford needless turnovers w/our qb situation being what it is.

I think that will be an issue we will face all year...obviously Jakeem was set to be that guy, but injuries derailed that idea. And your right...its far harder to field a punt than a kick (and far greater chance of turning it over, as the opposition is literally on top of you) Heck it's been since maybe Travis Benjamin since we've had a very good returner out there. I think DPJ and D'rnest are too important to put back there on returns, Not sure if we still have that guy from the Saints on our PS (I honestly can't recall his name) Felton really needs to clean it up...as he put the ball on the ground last year, and showing the same thus far. I'm in hopes he finds some success back there, as I'm sure were all sick of always being backed up in field position.

Yeah tru............this is a huge concern in my mind. JB probably isn't going to turn it over and take as many needless sacks as Baker, but the dude is limited. He missed a ton of throws today he should have completed that would have flipped the game. We can't afford silly mistakes.

If it were me............I would put DPJ back there if he can catch it. I have a feeling D'Ernest is on his way out. If not, and he is good at catching punts, put his ass back there. Felton misjudged the ball more than once. That's a no-no.

Yeah we haven't fielded a good returner in many years, and our special teams was really poor last year (bad punts, a lot of missed FGs, and pretty much zero return game, oh and botched returns ontop of that) I'm sure with all the drama that circulated last year, the special teams failure was overlooked...However Berry and the FO saw the disaster and drafted a kicker high, signed the premier return guy in FA, and bought us a new punter as well. I wouldn't mind having D'Ernest back there to return (I don't think he botched any returns last year) However he lacks some of the wiggle that Felton has, however Felton is a dangerous returner...to your own team lol just scares me too much, as he botches too many.

With Brissett, I never really cared for him. But I see the importance of having him with the suspension for Watson. There was a throw (I believe on 3rd down) where the ball traveled like it was tipped(however it wasn't) He just has a tendency to release some ducks at times, that brought back some Kizer moments. I do like his internal clock, he seems to know the pocket and has a stronger feel for pressure vs Baker. And with him being known to be protective of the ball, that will be huge for us. As we need to be positive in the TO margin for us to have a shot of getting in the playoffs.

Brissett should get a tad better once he gains more familiarity and timing in the offense. I saw Amari Cooper's stat line, (who had a brutal drop) but they will gain some chemistry through the weeks. As heck even stud WRS with QB familiarity laid some eggs (Mike Williams 11 yards today, Hunter Renfrow 21 yards) I'm in high hopes we will be 3-0 in a few weeks...Pitt always has our number, but those injuries thye suffered are big parts of their O and D. But one week at a time I suppose smile

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OBJ was a good player back in the day.


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I don't think Baker had a very good game. He started to finally wake up near the end, but too little too late.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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Now he’s just average, at best


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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
Some people talk about the game. Other people talk about other posters.


rofl rolleyes


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OBJ crapped on the team and Cleveland plenty the first time he was here. No need for another round.

But in terms of talent alone, I'd like for us to try to look at younger and less injured guys. OBJ has been injured for like half a decade almost nonstop, it feels like.


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Good post, as always.

If you are right about D'Ernest being a reliable catcher of the football.......put him back there. We can't afford dumb turnovers. We have no wiggle room because of our qb situation for the first 11 games of the year. We are in the same position as we have been.......the rest of the team has to carry the qb. I just think JB will take fewer sacks and throw fewer picks than Baker. On the other hand, Baker is far more capable of making big plays. We will miss those.

Teams are going to double Cooper in man and roll coverages his way when in zone. Others need to take advantage of the attention given to him.

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Originally Posted by oobernoober
I don't think Baker had a very good game. He started to finally wake up near the end, but too little too late.

He looked exactly like the same player he was here.

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D'ernest was a surprising inactive today.

Wonder if the coaching staff likes Ford better.

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I think you listen to posters who defend Baker no matter what instead of Browns players in regards to the OBJ situation.

That's fine.........and I won't try to change your mind. Just know that I think that idea is preposterous. Players know more about their teammates than fans do.

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Originally Posted by Rishuz
D'ernest was a surprising inactive today.

Wonder if the coaching staff likes Ford better.

I am wondering if they are preparing to trade him? What do you think?

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That was my first thought, but why now. Should have just done it before the season started.

So I'm not really sure.

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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
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Some people talk about the game. Other people talk about other posters.


rofl rolleyes


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I think you listen to posters who defend Baker no matter what instead of Browns players in regards to the OBJ situation.

That's fine.........and I won't try to change your mind. Just know that I think that idea is preposterous. Players know more about their teammates than fans do.
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Me either. It was just odd that he was inactive today. It's almost as if they were making sure he didn't get hurt.

I could be way off on this line of thought.

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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
I think you listen to posters who defend Baker no matter what instead of Browns players in regards to the OBJ situation.

That's fine.........and I won't try to change your mind. Just know that I think that idea is preposterous. Players know more about their teammates than fans do.

But he purposely ran the wrong routes!

What's more likely...OBJ improvised based on the coverage and expected his QB to see the same thing he was OR Baker couldn't read coverages and would only throw to where OBJ was supposed to be frustrating his receiver?

Hell, Myles took OBJ's side. That has to count for something.

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Chubb has spoiled us. He runs for a buck forty-one and his name barely gets mentioned tonight!


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Chubb is so good.

We are fortunate he's a Brown.

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Now that the Baker game is behind us, can we move on from him?


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Originally Posted by lampdogg
Chubb has spoiled us. He runs for a buck forty-one and his name barely gets mentioned tonight!

Three players we should keep until the end of their careers IMO: Chub, Hunt, and MG

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Originally Posted by Rishuz
Chubb is so good.

We are fortunate he's a Brown.

Lol, those words are deeply inspirational.
Don’t condescend me.


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I was agreeing with you.

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Originally Posted by lampdogg
Chubb has spoiled us. He runs for a buck forty-one and his name barely gets mentioned tonight!

Very good point, bro. Dude is a stud. Love his attitude. Love his ability. Love his toughness. Love his speed. Love his character.

I have some Browns jerseys that the kids have bought for me, but Chubb's is the only one I have purchased for myself.

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Originally Posted by lampdogg
Now that the Baker game is behind us, can we move on from him?

I can let it go............but I won't if others insist that we should have kept him and continue to trash my team.

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I didn’t read it that way, sorry man.


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I truly meant what I said. He's my favorite player.

I also have a tendency to be sarcastic and deadpan, especially on here, so I get it.

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I think with this game in the rear-view mirror, it should be that: behind us. We have a Browns season to worry about. Oh, we also have a piece of first place, Ben-gals!


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I hope you are right, but I doubt it.

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I just saw the Jacoby press conference and I was deeply moved. You can tell this man really cares about the game, being out there, it means the world to him. He wants to play the best he can as a Cleveland Brown.

He may not have the natural God given talent that some players have but he's going to do his best to out work them. I like that kind of player and want him on our team. And while his talent may not rise to the level of Deshaun Watson, his character far exceeds him.


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Originally Posted by Versatile Dog
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j/c:

I just read pages 16 and 17 of the Gameday thread. LMAO!!! Do y'all feel stupid?


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Brissett > Baker

straight up backup QB on a new team won our first season opener since 2004. hate on JB's lack of talent all we want, but he did that.

what Baker did late in the game matters little, because it doesn't erase the the 1st 3 quarters of craptastic play, and he LOST.


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We rushed for more than 200 yards, kudos to Chubb and our OL I winder if the NY Jets can stop us next week? smile. smile


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