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Originally Posted by FATE
$hillary is denying a future election and we're pathetic. thumbsup

I guess you don't follow what's going on. Election deniers are running for governors in several states. 19 to be specific. In 2020 there were attempts to install fake electors to overthrow the vote of the people in some states. People are running and expected to win office that will have the authority to do just that and they believe it's legal and they have the authority to do so. If you were half as worried about what's actually going on in our country as you are as making fun of those who do it would be quite refreshing. But so many like yourself will ignore it and make fun of it until after it happens and then claim you didn't see it coming.


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Hillary Clinton says Biden should not concede the election 'under any circumstances'

The former Democratic presidential nominee predicted Republicans could try to “mess up absentee balloting” for a narrow advantage in the Electoral College.

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WASHINGTON — Hillary Clinton said in a new interview that Joe Biden should not concede the 2020 presidential election “under any circumstances," anticipating issues that could prolong knowing the final outcome.

“Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances, because I think this is going to drag out, and eventually I do believe he will win if we don't give an inch, and if we are as focused and relentless as the other side is,” Clinton said in an interview with her former communications director Jennifer Palmieri for Showtime's “The Circus,” which released a clip Tuesday.

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I just want to know that this behavior is acceptable that it's not "a threat to our democracy", like everything else. To constantly question elections before they even take place? I mean, she's basically saying that all our elections are rigged, right? Am I expected to believe that they are only rigged by one side? Or should I read her endless bogeyman conspiracies and then have complete confidence in our election process when her side wins?? Seems like a strange, convenient dichotomy.


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It's a good thing she's not an elected government official that holds no power to actually disrupt our elections. I wish that were true across the board.


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As long as it is fine with you that she constantly tries. thumbsup


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I can show you thousands of people that constantly try. Most of them trying to accomplish exactly what she's referring to. Replacing electors to overthrow elections. Refusing to certify election results. But let's ignore all of that.....


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Did you include Stacey Abrahams in your "election deniers running for governor?" tally?

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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I can show you thousands of people that constantly try. Most of them trying to accomplish exactly what she's referring to. Replacing electors to overthrow elections. Refusing to certify election results. But let's ignore all of that.....

Hmm, it's weird how some of them get cancelled, suspended, removed and destroyed... while others are propped up as actual soothsayers.


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What's weird is some things are facts and some things are not. There are people currently in office who will be circumventing our election process and have already tried to do so. Many others of the same ilk are expected to be elected. Sometimes facts matter. At least to some people. I guess we should all sit back and support things get posted to social media that cause things like Jan. 6th and the Pelosi attack. That seems to work out so much better.


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That was actually hilarious. rofl


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We've switched from dangerous to funny. Sadly I'll take that given the choices we had.


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Fair enough. Did you watch? The reporter from Skynews is pretty funny, that almost seemed like an SNL skit. lol


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I did and it is funny.


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Ohio man accused of having bomb-making materials and wanting to kill police

The FBI arrested a suspected member of far-right extremist group the Boogaloo Bois Tuesday after he allegedly posted about killing police, government officials and expressing a desire to "blow up the IRS" and Facebook's headquarters.

Driving the news: Aron McKillips, 29, is accused of stockpiling bomb-making materials, an "AR-15 type rifle" and a grenade launcher, which he later allegedly said he traded for some "primo cocaine," according to a complaint unsealed Tuesday in Toledo federal court and first obtained by The Daily Beast.

Zoom in: The complaint documents screenshots of Signal chats and audio recordings on the encrypted messaging platform in which someone with the username of "prisonoh," or "Prison OH" (meaning "Prison Ohio"), whom the FBI identified as McKillips, posted on several occasions about weapons.

The user also expressed a desire to "kill feds, kill police, kill government officials," according to the complaint.
An informant reported that McKillips "posted a picture of his AK and said he wants to turn this into 'The country Concert 2,' likely referencing the Las Vegas mass shooting" of 2017, the complaint states.

The big picture: McKillips, of Sandusky, Ohio, was charged with unlawful possession of a machine gun and interstate communication of threats.

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Hopefully sending a message to radicalized extremists that we’re coming for you and your guns.


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Election Official Fired for Doing a Voting Fraud to Prove Voting Fraud

The action seemed designed to sow doubt in Wisconsin voters’ trust in their election system.

A Milwaukee, Wisconsin, election official was fired after she reportedly admitted to fraudulently requesting multiple mail ballots—an action she seemingly took to show that voting fraud was possible and prove right-wing theories that election-rigging is easy and commonplace in one of the nation’s biggest swing states.

Milwaukee Mayor Cavalier Johnson said Thursday that he’d fired Milwaukee Election Commission Deputy Director Kimberly Zapata after an internal investigation found she’d requested multiple military ballots under fraudulent names.

Johnson said Zapata “apparently sought fictitious military ballots.” Zapata allegedly admitted she did it and said she committed the crime to show voter fraud was possible.

“This has every appearance of being an egregious and blatant violation of trust,” Johnson said at a Thursday press conference, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel. “Election integrity is absolutely integral. It's absolutely essential.”

The Milwaukee County District Attorney’s office is now investigating the matter.

Zapata also reportedly had the ballots mailed to the home of Wisconsin Republican Rep. Janel Brandtjen, one of the state’s loudest champions of the claim that the 2020 election was rigged. Brandtjen announced Monday that she’d received three different military ballots at her home from three different Milwaukee-area election clerks.

“I believe someone was trying to point out how easy it is to get military ballots in Wisconsin. Registration for military ballots is not required, so a fictitious name and birthdate is all that is required to obtain a military ballot online,” Brandtjen said in a Monday statement. “Feeling shocked about this situation is an understatement, because it demonstrates stolen valor from those who protect this nation. I think it’s sad that people feel they have to break the law to get the attention of the legislature.”

Brandtjen said she delivered the ballots to the Waukesha County sheriff’s office for investigation, and also contacted former Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman, the leader of Wisconsin’s right-wing voting-fraud witch hunt.

Zapata’s alleged action is the latest in a series of chaotic efforts to destabilize the 2022 midterm elections and undermine voters’ faith in the election system across the nation. And it occurred just one week before the Nov. 8 midterm elections in a state with hotly contested races for governor and senator.

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Oath Keepers founder talked of hanging Pelosi in days after Jan. 6

Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes reportedly said he wanted to hang U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) “from the lamppost” in a recording obtained by the FBI and played during his trial this week.

In the Jan. 10, 2021, audio recording played by the FBI Wednesday in the trial against the far-right militia leader, Rhodes told members of his group that his “only regret is they should have brought rifles” to the riot on the Capitol four days earlier.

“We should have brought rifles. We could have fixed it right then and there. I’d hang F–— Pelosi from the lamppost,” Rhodes said in the recording, according to CBS News.

The news comes after a man broke into Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) San Francisco home last week and attacked her husband, Paul Pelosi, with a hammer.

The suspect, David DePape, faces state and federal charges for the assault. He reportedly shouted “Where is Nancy Pelosi?” when he entered the residence, seeking to break the speaker’s kneecaps as a warning to others in Congress.

President Biden noted last week that DePape’s calls for Pelosi was eerily similar to the chanting of the rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 and broke into her office.

Other Jan. 6 rioters have been accused of wanting to kill the Democratic leader, including a woman who was seeking to shoot Pelosi and a man who wanted to drag her out of the Capitol.

Rhodes and four other Oath Keepers are charged with seditious conspiracy and are accused of plotting to overthrow the government.

All five defendants have pleaded not guilty and have claimed they were at the Capitol to provide security detail to former President Trump. Other members of the group have pleaded guilty.

Attorneys for Rhodes have also claimed the Oath Keepers were waiting on Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act, an old law that allows the president to call up armed forces to quell a domestic rebellion or disturbance.

The Oath Keepers trial began last month and could last for several more weeks.

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You realize nobody even knows what that means, right?


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God made Ron DeSantis to be a politician you should vote for to represent you. Don't disappoint God.



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I actually saw something like that for Trump back in 2016. My question is - in which Christian denomination is something like that NOT considered blasphemous to make such a declaration?


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Man charged, accused of fatally shooting neighbor in Butler County

OKEANA, Ohio —

A man is dead and another man has been charged following a shooting in Butler County on Saturday.

The Butler County Sheriff's Office confirmed deputies responded to report of a victim with a gunshot wound in the 2700 block of Chapel Rd. in Okeana, Ohio.

Once deputies arrived on the scene, they confirmed that one person was found dead. The victim has been identified as 43-year-old Anthony King.

His cause of death is listed as gunshot wounds and the manner of death is listed as homicide.

Sheriff Richard Jones later confirmed 26-year-old Austin Combs has been charged with murder. Jones said the victim was Combs' neighbor.

Jones said the investigation is ongoing and more charges could be added at a later date.

King's son called 911 to report the shooting. When a dispatcher asked the caller if he knew why Combs his father, the son said, "We don't know. He's crazy ... He's come over multiple times making statements. He's insane."

King's wife told a dispatcher, "He's come over like four times confronting my husband because he thought he was a democrat."

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Now it isn't black while driving gets you killed, now a Democrat needs killing....WOW, what a great country. AND, we have the Great One, saying he should have the nuke codes, while spewing he lies about gestapo Justice Dept and FBI.....can't wait to see if the IDIOT RP nominates him for another four more years.....God help us.


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Bury him under the jail. He'll probably get off on insanity, smfh.


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Great…right next to me. It’s also where Oober lives…wherever that boy has gone off to these days.


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North Carolina Sheriff Who Resigned After Making Racist Comments Wins Reelection

A North Carolina man is projected to win reelection as sheriff two weeks after he resigned from the same job for making derogatory statements about Black deputies.

Republican Jody Greene defeated Democratic candidate Jason Soles in Columbus County despite stepping down from the sheriff’s office in October, following the release of a leaked audio recording from 2019.

Greene defeated Soles by 1,576 votes, or 54% of the total ballot count, according to unofficial voting results from Columbus County.

Greene’s win will be certified by the Columbus County Board of Elections on November 18. Greene posted a Facebook status Tuesday night that said only “Thank you all!!!!!”

In the 2019 phone call, Greene referred to multiple Black employees as “bastards” and indicated that he planned to fire them for supposedly undermining him, according to a petition filed by the local district attorney’s office last month.

“Every Black that I know, you need to fire him to start with, he’s a snake!” Greene was quoted as saying in the petition.

The recording sparked outrage from local NAACP officials, who called Greene’s comments “divisive” and “horrifying.”

Greene’s comments sparked an investigation into the sheriff’s office for misconduct and obstruction of justice.

Jody Greene, who is projected to win reelection as Columbus County sheriff in North Carolina. (Photo: Columbus County Sheriff's Office)

The district attorney’s office demanded that Greene be removed from his role following reports of the 2019 remarks. District Attorney Jon David wrote that a new petition would be filed to force Greene out of office if he were to win reelection in November.

In an amended petition filed last month, David said several individuals approached his office regarding the filing of the initial petition about concerns with Greene and his agents engaging in “intimidation” and “abusing” his authority, according to documents.

David cited a sexual relationship between Greene and one of his deputies, which lasted for months and “interfered with the necessary and proper administration” of the sheriff’s office.

The state and local NAACP chapter wrote two letters to the U.S. Department of Justice to intervene in Columbus County last month as early voting was starting.

David’s allegations were alarming to the group, which cited instances of Greene pursuing criminal charges against a County commissioner after he voted against providing pay increases and riot gear to the Columbus County Sheriff’s Office.

The group is demanding a federal civil rights investigation into the statements made and actions taken by Greene.

Though he had stepped down, Greene was still eligible to appear on the ballot. Just hours after his resignation, he posted on Facebook that he never intended to end his campaign, according to local TV station WECT.

“Due to my love for Columbus County and to spare my fellow citizens along with my family and friends the ordeal and spectacle of a long trial, I resigned as Sheriff of Columbus County for the term elected in November 2018 effective this morning. The allegations ... are not true. They were politically motivated,” Greene wrote last month.

“I’m still running for Sheriff of Columbus County in the November 8, 2022 election. I am running to make Columbus County better and safer for ALL our citizens.”

The chairman of the Columbus County Republican Party told WECT at the time that the local GOP was not calling on Greene to withdraw from the election and that the party planned for him to “win and win big.”

In 2018, Greene successfully ran for the sheriff’s seat against Lewis Hatcher — the Democratic incumbent at the time, and one of the Black men specifically named in the leaked audio recording.

Hatcher filed a court complaint in August seeking reinstatement as sheriff after questioning Greene eligibility for the role.

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Judge scorches and sanctions Trump lawyers for lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and Democrats

A federal judge on Thursday ordered sanctions against attorneys for former President Donald Trump in his failed lawsuit against Hillary Clinton, the Democratic National Committee and numerous others that he claimed conspired to undermine the 2016 presidential election.

Judge Donald Middlebrooks ordered Trump lawyers Alina Habba, Michael Madaio, Peter Ticktin, Jamie Alan Sasson and their law firms to pay $50,000 in penalties to the court and $16,274.23 in legal fees to Charles Dolan, one of more than two dozen people or entities named as defendants in the lawsuit.

Middlebrooks, who previously dismissed the lawsuit, calling it a “two-hundred page political manifesto,” said the attorneys ignored warnings from Dolan, a volunteer on the Clinton campaign, and his attorney that their facts were wrong, including basic information such as where he lived.

“The pleadings in this case contained factual allegations that were either knowingly false or made in reckless disregard for the truth,” Middlebrooks wrote.

“Not just initiated by a shotgun pleading, this was a shotgun lawsuit. Thirty-one individuals and organizations were summoned to court, forced to hire lawyers to defend against frivolous claims,” the judge wrote. “The only common thread against them was Mr. Trump’s animus.”

Middlebrooks added: “Plaintiff deliberately misrepresented public documents by selectively using some portions while omitting other information including findings and conclusions that contradicted his narrative. … It was too frequent to be accidental. Every claim was frivolous, most barred by settled, well-established existing law. These were political grievances masquerading as legal claims.”

“This cannot be attributed to incompetent lawyering,” he wrote. “It was a deliberate use of the judicial system to pursue a political agenda.”

Dolan’s lawyer, George Doumar, praised the ruling. “Trying to use the courts for political purposes undermines the foundations of our court system, I think that’s the message being sent. That message applies to lawyers and to clients,” Doumar said.

“We gave Trump’s lawyers multiple warnings, and rather than heed the warnings and serve as gatekeepers of the integrity of the court system as lawyers are supposed to do, they doubled down on unsupported allegations and apparently chose not to tell their client that he was so wrong that they couldn’t go forward,” Doumar added.

“It should be no surprise that we will be appealing this decision,” Habba said in a statement following the ruling.

Ticktin called the ruling a “kick in the teeth.”

“Of course, we are disappointed by the decision by Judge Middlebrooks. We attempted to right a wrong, and our reward is a kick in the teeth,” Ticktin told CNN. “Ultimately, this will be decided by a panel of three judges of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, as we believe that the dismissal and the sanctions which followed will ultimately be reversed.”

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So that all the craziness doesn't get mixed up on one shuffle - we need a separate thread for each of the Priorities the House has come in with. Obviously the crazy bull crap will keep the MAGA faithful happy - anyone with a brain should pay attention and realize what Trump 2024 would mean.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
I actually saw something like that for Trump back in 2016. My question is - in which Christian denomination is something like that NOT considered blasphemous to make such a declaration?

I wish a bigger deal out of this would be made - I mean if it's all about God's Will then God was rooting hard for Obama. He put Biden in power because He wanted him there..... smh.


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That's not how any of this works. If a Republican wins it's God's will. If a democrat wins Satan is taking over the country. Haven't you been paying attention?


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That's sad. I think a lot of my critique of the Republicans over the course of the last several years is that they don't have a platform. They did not run on anything other than blame. What you posted, and what I've been seeing myself show they are consistent in that goal, even now. I actually agree that we should open a thread to review the House actions. Anyone could post in there and we can measure to see what they actually do. Hell, do one for the Senate, too. I'd be curious to see how they measure against each other over the next two years in their proposals.


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I think it's rather comical that one party is actually investigating the actions of a president when all the other party can seem to come up with is, "Yeah, but his kid!"


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You haven't been paying much attention, have you?


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Sure I have. Just more conspiracy theories. You can only cry wolf so many times before people actually need to see some substance instead of more rhetoric.


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Failed South Dakota House candidate arrested on rape charge after election loss

Bud Marty May, 37, lost the race against his mother.

A state House candidate in South Dakota was arrested on a rape charge just days after he lost his race against the incumbent — his mother.

Bud Marty May, 37, was arrested in Box Elder around 4 a.m. Sunday and charged with second-degree rape, court filings said. The criminal complaint alleges May used "force, coercion, or threats of immediate and great bodily injury" against the victim.

Referring to law enforcement reports at a court hearing Tuesday, the judge said officers found the victim hiding behind a bar, and she alleged that May had raped her, the Argus Leader newspaper of Sioux Falls reported.

May's attorney, Matt Kinney, declined to comment, saying he had not yet been provided any police reports or statements.  

May, a Republican, came in fourth in a four-person race for two District 27 House seats. One of the two winners was his mother, Republican state Rep. Liz May.

A Republican candidate for the state Senate in neighboring District 26 was arrested in the days before the election, as well. The candidate, Joel Koskan, was charged with child abuse Nov. 3, court records show.

The Mitchell Republic reported that a plea agreement has been submitted to the judge. The agreement — which the newspaper reported would spare Koskan jail time for pleading guilty while requiring him to undergo therapy, pay fines and stay away from the alleged victim — was entered onto the court docket on Nov. 7, the day before the election. Koskan lost the Senate race by about 1,000 of the nearly 6,000 votes cast.

Koskan's lawyer, Clint Sargent, declined to commen

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