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Unfortunately I have to cut back on going to the games and sitting with Columbus his wife and son. The seats in Club are amazing and the tailgates are a family affair of good food drinks and love from close friends.

Not sure how a gas station can get busted for gas price gouging and entertainment events can charge $7.50 for a bottle of water, yes I do know the why. Not right though.

With the economy and the prices of everything I decided I have to budget my money. So giving up the best times of my life is one choice I have to do and it saddens me in a bad way !

My 15 year old vizio 60" died on me, Time to buy a new tv. Bj's had a LG 65 70 and 75" for ridiculously cheap prices.

I chose the 65" for under $400 because the other two were still in the price range, but I felt my eyeballs would be moving to much to see everything going on lol

So for this game being the Chargers I'm staying home. Thought about reaching out to GM Pdawg and Ytown to see if they were going to head out to BB Rooners or Coaches in Salem

to watch the game, or go to Jersey's bar here in Canton

Again that gets expensive and I decided that it being the Chargers

I'm going to make something that charges me, I decided to drink moonshine and eat energizer bunnies ! lol

So the menu will be my special fish breading with a hot sauce and beer

Downtown Canton has the Centennial plaza with the Amphitheater that has a large outdoor screen bars/restaurants around and they let you tailgate there.

They play the Buckeyes and Browns games there and have cool light shows

So if the weather is nice, I may just grab my cooler put a few beers in it, grab my chair and head there.

Any of you have fun plans or just a typical Browns game day planned

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I'm kind of in your boat. Really been watching the cash flow. Plus, now have payments on a vehicle. I never turn the furnace on until Nov. at the earliest, some years December. Hey, we have cold weather clothes. A/c has been off for a while. Awesome to get the $90 electric bill this time of year.

For a long, long time, wife and I have spent a weekend in October in Cleveland. Celebrate our anniversary, my birthday, and get to see a game. Not this year. Saving money, as I see bad things coming economically.

But, we have a great covered patio/porch. We'll grill whatever suits us, eat outside or inside, and I'll be stationed in the garage for the game. As is the norm.

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Would like to be home for the game, had hoped to go to the game. I've got a concert Friday night in C-Bus and now the wife has to work Saturday, so we'll be in Fort Wayne Sunday.

Probably (finally) head out to the Fort Wayne Backers pub and meet some new Browns fans.


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It was good seeing you last year for a quick moment

Hopefully the weather is nice to just enjoy some outside at home football

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I looked for you as always in club, as you said you weren't there for the Jets game

I'll never forget being outside of the stadium in the grass and you wer so upset about the lost to the Steelers that the Browns should have won

Hopefully you'll have a good time with the Fort Wayne Backers

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It's a Browns game... Plans: Drink... heavily....

Just Kidding... sort of.... Son has scouts so will hopefully watch as much of the game as we can before having to go to scouts...


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Jay bird , your son has scouts ?

It seems like he should be only 2 years old

my goodness how time flies by

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I will be in CLE visiting with friends and family and attending the game.

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That's Wonderful Eve !!


You get to go to back to back games

hopefully you walk out happy after the game

you plan on tailgating

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Yes, we need to win!

I wont be tailgating. I'll be drinking enough. On Friday doing a pub crawl with my friend in Tremont. And Saturday going out with with fam who knows where.

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Originally Posted by EveDawg
I wont be tailgating. I'll be drinking enough. On Friday doing a pub crawl with my friend in Tremont.

Hit up Cloak and Dagger. Really cool place in Tremont as far getting a drink goes. Awesome cocktails.

https://cloakanddaggercle.com/

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I read good things about that place!

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I’m happy for everyone that gets to go to the game. I’d love to go.

Game starts at 7 am here. I’ll do my usual.

Watch the game at my condo, have other games on the split screens while hanging out on the lanai. I’ll be watching the game, while watching the surfers and tourist having fun on the gorgeous beach/ocean. There’s nothing like the beautiful relaxing view while watching the total chaos of a Browns game on the tv screen. It’s like mixing oil and water rofl

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Downtown is going to be crazy this weekend between the Browns game and the Gaurdians playoff games. willynilly

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Originally Posted by EveDawg
I read good things about that place!

Literary Tavern is a cool place as well. Velvet Tango Room serves some fantastic cocktails as well. Have fun!

https://www.velvettangoroom.com/

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Many libations are a good idea for the game. That and a goodly supply of TUMS!!!!!!

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Pat and I are heading up Friday AM. We plan to stay in Covington, Ky for the night, but I may push further to Columbus. I am toying with the idea of getting a couple of Guardians tickets for the Saturday game, then the Browns on Sunday. With the Pats the following week, we are just staying through. We are heading to Niagara Falls. It's been at least 25 years since we last visited. Staying in Niagara on the Lake, Ontario through Wednesday, then head back towards Cleveland for the Pats game.

A bit more than I would choose, but in the words of my Grandpop, "If Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy" so it is what it is. I am well-seasoned at sitting on some bench watching people, waiting for her to shop and do her thing. It's Christmas gift shopping season for her, so I suspect acting as her mule will be a part of the process.

Just the give and take part of things, it is what it is.


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First time in years I wont be at a home game. Watching the game in CBus then going to see the Who.. prolly my last time seeing Daltrey and Townshend.


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Originally Posted by SaintDawg
First time in years I wont be at a home game. Watching the game in CBus then going to see the Who.. prolly my last time seeing Daltrey and Townshend.

Awsome. I'm a huge Who fan. In 1989, I saw them in Cleveland July 19th, got married July 21st, and saw them again July 25th in Detroit. It was a good week! I haven't seen them live since John Entwistle passed away.


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Originally Posted by DeisleDawg
So the menu will be my special fish breading with a hot sauce and beer

Man, I'm sure your special fish breading is great so I'm not meaning to knock it. And I know that finances can get tight. But hopefully you'll be able to get some fish to put that breading on. I'm quite sure that would be much better.

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OMG !!! LMAO !! That was great Pit !!!

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peen - sounds like a great time. Safe travels, and enjoy!

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The game will not be on in Youngstown so I will probably meet up with GM at his local bar. We should make plans to meet up (I’ll bring GM and Ytown if they’re healthy enough) for a game later this year.


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You three have invited me out and I never made it

This time I will definitely make a better effort of getting together with you three

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Originally Posted by SaintDawg
First time in years I wont be at a home game. Watching the game in CBus then going to see the Who.. prolly my last time seeing Daltrey and Townshend.


Dang! That's a cool gig !! Have a great time


Text me pics of that ! Have a great and safe time !

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Wow ! You have a great plan together that sounds pretty good Peen.

Push harder and stay in Canton and we can meet up for dinner and a walk around the Hall of Fame

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Originally Posted by Pdawg
The game will not be on in Youngstown so I will probably meet up with GM at his local bar. We should make plans to meet up (I’ll bring GM and Ytown if they’re healthy enough) for a game later this year.

I would love to try, but I have trouble walking these days.

Earlier today my leg gave out and I mashed my knee.

I don't know if they have closeby handicapped parking at the stadiun, or not.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
....I am toying with the idea of getting a couple of Guardians tickets for the Saturday game....

Do not toy, do! Tickets are sold out except for standing room only. Obviously, you can grab some on the secondary market.

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Originally Posted by DeisleDawg
Jay bird , your son has scouts ?

It seems like he should be only 2 years old

my goodness how time flies by

yeah it's crazy - one is 10 and the other about to turn 8.... getting old my friend...


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Originally Posted by Milk Man
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
....I am toying with the idea of getting a couple of Guardians tickets for the Saturday game....

Do not toy, do! Tickets are sold out except for standing room only. Obviously, you can grab some on the secondary market.


That's really good to see !


Finally seeing some support in the stands for the young and exciting Team

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No local coverage so no cares. I'll get the recap here and move on with life.

I need to go shooting in anticipation of my department's annual requalification on Wednesday. So I'll take Son #2 and head off to the range for a bit then take him to buy clothes for his first medical school interview. I'm so glad I didn't buy Sunday Ticket for this season.


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Originally Posted by Milk Man
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
....I am toying with the idea of getting a couple of Guardians tickets for the Saturday game....

Do not toy, do! Tickets are sold out except for standing room only. Obviously, you can grab some on the secondary market.

Secondary market would have been the route, but we already have enough on the docket. Like a pipedream, it went up in smoke. I will have to catch the last few innings on the hotel room TV or some bar where we grab a bit of lunch/dinner before checking in..My son and i saw the Guards play the Twins the last trip up. They had a Monday make-up game. We won, maybe 11-4?


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Originally Posted by Pdawg
The game will not be on in Youngstown so I will probably meet up with GM at his local bar. We should make plans to meet up (I’ll bring GM and Ytown if they’re healthy enough) for a game later this year.

Sams Wedge Inn I will be there around 11:00

http://samswedgeinn.com/


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Just got to CLE and checked into the hotel. My room has a view of the lake and stadium. Pretty cool.

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Nice. Have fun and bring us a winner.

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Originally Posted by EveDawg
Just got to CLE and checked into the hotel. My room has a view of the lake and stadium. Pretty cool.

Sounds like it could be the Weston or Marriott Key center. Both are nice and have very nice views. I stay in one or the other when I come up for night games, or even 4PM kick games. Otherwise I stay out on the Berea area at a Marriott property.

Tonight we are in Covington, KY with a nice river and Cincy skyline view. Cincy has a real nice skyline at night.


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When the kids were young we would go to the Aquarium there

Then Hooters on the River

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We stayed at the Hilton a few years ago. 29th floor corner room. The view was impressive, though game day morning you couldn't see out the window. I told my sweetie to call the front desk and tell them we wanted out view back. laugh

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Had Friday off so I got to throwing a few back on Thursday evening. Woke up on Friday and headed down to the west side market with my sister. - Bought the wife a gyro and piece of baklava to make up for getting drunk the night before. - She’s low maintenance. 😆. Painting the kitchen with my daughter today while listening to sports talk radio and peeking on the college games all day. Tomorrow, I’ll wake up, grab a coffee, take my morning walk and then take my wife and daughter to my daughter’s volleyball game. The volleyball game should end right at the end of the first quarter. Listen to the 2nd qtr on the radio and get home by halftime. Make some chili, throw it over some noodles and put some cheese on top. That’s it for me guys/gals.

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Yes, I'm at the westin. First time, I really like it.

Whelp, partied last night. I have been mostly sober since July so I am feeling it today. Gonna watch the osu game with fam later on.

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Originally Posted by EveDawg
Downtown is going to be crazy this weekend between the Browns game and the Gaurdians playoff games. willynilly

Happy the Guardians won today

Sure helps with traffic on Sunday

Time for a party tonight in Cleveland

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Fun plans? Not for me.
I'll be at the job site- a hole in the floor.

I plan to record the game and see it at about 6:30-7:00.
On days like these, my work mates know to talk about ANYTHING other than the day's football games.

And yes- I have 'cell phone discipline.'


Wife's making Jambalaya.


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"I'll be at the job site- a hole in the floor."

Maybe explain that.

Is that an orchestra pit, where you are playing the music for some play or show, or a real hole in the floor you are helping to fix at some building?

Just curious. Jambalaya is always a welcomed treat.


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Clem plays in the pit.

I am watching the game with my neighbor and will be trading barbs.


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Originally Posted by Clemdawg
Fun plans? Not for me.
I'll be at the job site- a hole in the floor.

I plan to record the game and see it at about 6:30-7:00.
On days like these, my work mates know to talk about ANYTHING other than the day's football games.

And yes- I have 'cell phone discipline.'


Wife's making Jambalaya.

Dayummm.

You had me at jambalaya! rofl

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I made two wit, whiz.

We had steak sandwiches as our home tailgate. I'll make espresso before the game starts too.

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As much as I missed tailgating and being at the game

I saved lots of money

walking out after a loss

I don't miss

Not sure if the NFL Goodell and Browns will get anymore of my cash

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It gets old for sure.


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especially for all the hours you put on the road

the money spent on hotels

and the club seat you have

The Browns need to win to make all that

worth it !

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Originally Posted by DeisleDawg
especially for all the hours you put on the road

the money spent on hotels

and the club seat you have

The Browns need to win to make all that

worth it !

Well, to be honest. Being back in Ctown where I grew up and seeing guys like you and other old friends makes it worth it, but no doubt watching wins makes it more enjoyable.

I will give it 1 more year with season tickets. I think that will be year 16 or 17 with season tickets. If we don't show something big, it might be time to look at other options.

1. Just dump them and buy tickets on the aftermarket. That would bring road games back in to the mix.

2. Find someone who wants to split the season.

3. My wife and I sold our house last year in Chattanooga after deciding we wanted to live in an apartment and didn't want to own any longer. We have talked about adding a second apartment as a 2nd home so to speak, and Cleveland beats the heat of the south from April-September, so that option would keep season tickets in play since we would then have a place to stay, and either way would wouldn't leave either place totally unattended 6 months at a time. We would still go back every now and then for a week just for a change of pace. We did that when we had a home in Florida.

I don't know, lots to think about. We sold out high, so maybe we buy again when the housing prices drop? We'll see.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I will give it 1 more year with season tickets. I think that will be year 16 or 17 with season tickets. If we don't show something big, it might be time to look at other options.

1. Just dump them and buy tickets on the aftermarket. That would bring road games back in to the mix….

I dumped my club seat this year after 4 years. Cheaper on the secondary market and I didn’t have to set $1100 on fire for two preseason games. Club seats for this game against the Chargers we’re going for as low as $97/ticket and you could get 40 yard line club seats for as low as $107/ticket.

The Browns just do not put out a good enough product. The key is just wait until the season starts rather than jumping on them when the tickets initially get listed by other season ticket holders before the season starts and hope springs eternal.

As an aside, the junky STH gifts the team sends out before the season starts have become hilariously bad.

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Thanks.
I know the later you wait the cheaper they usually become, but not always if there is demand. I don't usually jump when they are first being listed, but I also feel better having them so I don't usually look for rock bottom. Just me, but I like having this set rather than having maybe's sitting in the future. When working, my docket was being set 3-5 months out so I am accustomed to working 4-5-6 pages ahead in the calendar. Just my comfort zone.

Then there is the part that the kid in me likes to know I have playoff tickets...if we ever get any....but sure as the sun rises in the morning, as soon as I get rid of them, that's when we start to make those playoff runs...lol.

No doubt the gifts have gotten a bit cheap. It looks like now you get 1 gift per ticket holder where in the past you got 1 per seat, but in the end I don't care all that much about the gift.

I did like that little cooler we got a few years back. I just took it down to the car as we are leaving the hotel in about a hour to head to Niagara falls for a few days. They hold a nice amount of drinks and such for the car on trips.


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Same here, Milk. Dumped mine after four years. The prospect of a throwaway season was the camel that broke the back. And yeah, there was no "recouping your investment" when you can't go to a game. Couldn't even cover costs selling the freaking home opener last year... coming off a playoff season! Clubs are great, but the real value-added aspect is staying out of weather -- what is that? Two or three games per year at the most.

What really sucked is I had never planned on living on two different states after I bought them. Flying in from St Louis, now driving from Fort Wayne. Then I had two buddies that were usually good for two of the four seats... one became way less interested, the other blew his knee out and needed surgery. So before the season I figured I would just keep two, the Browns were a firm "NOPE". Either keep all four or give them up.

So, yeah... about 50 grand later... I've got the cooler (which I use nearly every weekend for my FTW to CLE back and forth).

What did they send out this year? Autographed Vaseline?


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A painters cap !

No wonder I didn't see you

I looked and wondered where you was

We always ran into each other

What is tough in Club is,

You have to dress warm to be out in your seat when it's freezing out

Then it's hot as heck when you go inside for whatever reason

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Painter's cap, eh? That's so you can flip it over and take up a collection for a B-Spot burger!


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Wtf are those bugs in the stadium? It was infested

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1. Bruh- It's 'Opera Week' on the job. Puccini. Mascgani.

Since you mentioned "the Pit," you already know what I'm talking about. What follows is my 'everyman's description' for a really unusual/highly specialized way to earn part of a living. A description that might be interesting for those who are just finding out about it.

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2. So yeah... I'm literally in a hole beneath the stage, where a whole lotta sound gets generated.

That sound then blows out out from that hole, and washes out into the house. It blows out from under the stage, up towards the rafters, then washes out and down, around/upon the house. Big-voiced men and women pierce that wash, and blow their voices directly to the back wall of the hall. It all coalesces in the house, where folks get a show that's larger than life. Music in 'surround sound,' and voices that sound like they are aimed directly at them. They can stare at the action onstage, follow the story line, and have a totally immersive experience for 3 hours. From any seat in the house.

No amps. No mics. Just people telling/yelling stories- at 105 decibels.
When we play the big scenes, it's like living inside a rock concert.
Heroes. Villains. Epic story lines.

Opera- it ain't hoi-poloi or pretentious. It's raw af, and totally in-your-face.
There is nothing like it anywhere else.

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3. I've dug house foundation as a kid/teen/young man, more than once/more than a half-lifetime ago. I've also worked as a piano mover, pipefitter's assistant, boilermaker's assistant, oil refinery Pipeline Delivery Specialist/oil refinery Fire Brigade First Responder, and 3rd shift security guard at a short line truck terminal (Duff Truck Lines, Inc).

When you are raised Black in America in the 40's/50's/60's/70's, you learn how to multi-task, to work your way 'up the ladder.' I took a long, convoluted path to Carnegie Hall as a professional musician... and 90% of my ability to walk that path was because I was raised a "Depression-era Black Kid." It had nothing to do with what I could do when my hands were making European Art Music on a stringed instrument. It had everything to do with how My Family taught me that I needed to work my ass off In Real Life to achieve what I wanted for self/Fam.

I started with:

Public school education.
Pressed plywood cello, rented from the public school system at $10/year.
State College education.
And a chance against the best of the best, for a 1-in-35 shot at a job- on a single day in history.

4. This was our first Jambalaya, ever. We took notes, and will make adjustments. At some point, we'll be ready to invite friends for our own personal recipe.

More work must be done.


"too many notes, not enough music-"

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Cool description. I do know something about something. My dad was big in to all sorts of music so we were taken to all sorts of shows...even opera from a young age. He even tried his hand at music as a career before finally settling on his lifes work. He sat in several times with the Harry James big band as a sax player if James needed another Sax player when he toured the mid-west. Dad met him before the war in California where dad went out of high school and became a studio musician.

When you said the pit, opera wasn't the first thing that entered my mind, but it makes sense. I only mentioned the other in the off chance your orchestra was in some sort of down season and you were helping out a buddy who's tub had a hidden leak and it finally pushed through the rotten flooring, or something like that..

Actually, that would make a pretty interesting thread...all the things you have done. All having helped make you but have little to do with what you actually do or did for the bulk of your career. My list would be pretty long.



Oh...I forgot the jambalaya . Don't worry, there are probably an infinite number of ways to make it. Just start with the base and rice, then just go from there. A big part of my family are Cajun down in Louisiana. My great aunt married one so I have eaten a lot of that in my time with about 20 cousins. Like any soul food, you just start with an idea, take whatever you have , put in your best effort and it usually comes out pretty good. The next time you fiddle with it a little more and before you know it you have something that people from miles around want.

Now you have me wanting to make a pot of gumbo. The only problem with gumbo is it takes so long to get the rue to the right color. You can stand there doing nothing but stirring and scraping the bottom of the pot for an hour before you get the dark brown color desired to bring out the nutty flavor but to do that you dance close to the black specks of death. If they show up, you just scorched the rue and you are dead. They ruin the pot and you have to start over.

To avoid that I usually get to the color of a darker peanut butter and call it good. Needless to say, I have danced that dance more than a couple of times and gotten burned. No more is that temptress going to lure me.

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The Browns fans at the stadium were an embarassment. My friend was there with his son. They are Chargers fans. The Browns fans kept trying to fight them. During and after the game. They had food thrown at them, were grabbed, and cussed out. Repeatedly. Multiple times. People should be ashamed of themselves. flamingmad

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That's awful.

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That's ridiculous. When there are opposing fans in our section we may rib them a bit, but usually end up just talking football with them.


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And they werent the only ones being attacked. When I was walking out after the game I saw a fight starting. I ran away because I didnt want to be caught up in a brawl. It was ridiculous. People are an embarassment. flamingmad

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The amount of misery this team puts this fanbase through drives people mad. Not excusing their behavior, but it would be nice if this team would win more than it loses.

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Misery plus hooch equals shameful behavior.

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I'm so sorry you all had to experience that.

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Originally Posted by Rishuz
The amount of misery this team puts this fanbase through drives people mad. Not excusing their behavior, but it would be nice if this team would win more than it loses.

Win. Games.

Sorry, but that doesn't fly. Blaming an outside force for one's own actions is lame. The offenders were probably drunk and have the makeup of a bully.

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Originally Posted by EveDawg
The Browns fans at the stadium were an embarassment. My friend was there with his son. They are Chargers fans. The Browns fans kept trying to fight them. During and after the game. They had food thrown at them, were grabbed, and cussed out. Repeatedly. Multiple times. People should be ashamed of themselves. flamingmad

I have to say I have seen that for a long time. There are a number of Browns fans who don't know how to act.

I can point to several occasions i have stood up for opposing fans. That is usually all it takes, a few local fans sticking up for those fans.

I have long felt the CPD needs to have undercover cops wearing opposing jerseys before and after gaes being tailed by other cops in Browns gear. Walk them through the Muni and main walks in and out of the stadium, especially out.

Start arresting the jerks and lugging them off to the the city jail might stop that crap. Let the jerks know the person they are giving crap might be the police.


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