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Thought I'd start a thread for probable later round guys that people find intriguing.

I don't know if he'll work out, but Deuce Vaughn from Kansas State is just so fun to watch. The 5'5" is a tough sell, but his low center of gravity and good balance let him make defenders look silly all the time. Could he be what Felton was supposed to be? Would his "getting lost" by defenders behind the OL be an advantage?

Just came across Derek Parish from Houston. He's a DL/LB/FB, basically just a do-it-all football player. Mainly have watched him at DE. He's a bit undersized on the edge and missed most of last season with a biceps injury, but his game against Texas Tech was pretty epic. 11 tackles, 6.5 TFLs, 4.5 sacks, and a forced fumble. Could be a core special teamer, while providing pass rush depth, and saving a spot on not needing a FB-only guy.



Who have you all got?

Sounds like he’ll be a Patriot haha. I always am intrigued by those types too

Maybe they were racing because they just left a Taco Bell?

LOL guys.

Creed Humphrey, he plays center for the Cheifs, he was drafted last year.
It takes about 3 seconds to look at the eyeball test to look and go,
uh oh, we may have something special here, he could be the best to see in years, a rare occasion,

A late round pick in this draft that I really like is Mohammed Ibrahim RB from Minnesota. Smaller back that plays tough. Has good vision and ability to cut really well. Lacks explosive speed to run away from defenders is his biggest drawback. Had 37 collegiate touchdowns playing in the Big Ten. He could be a really good compliment runner to a lead back like Chubb.

He will still go in the top 10 of the Draft.

Here's an idea I've been thinking about. I'd like to hear what others think about it. What if we were to trade our 2 #3 picks this year to move up to the 2nd round so we'd have 2 #2 picks this year. I feel we should still take the best DL or WR with our first 2nd round pick and then we can take the other position with our second #2 if we make the trade. Or, should we just stay where we are and let the draft come to us? Thoughts?

Think we only have the compensatory pick in the 3rd round. I believe our original 3rd was part of the Watson trade.

I see us as more likely to trade back from our 2nd rounder (to try to get a couple picks before 70) than up. Might try to package the later rounds to get more picks in the 3rd-5th range. All depends on who is still on the board when.

Could also see us flipping late round picks for future picks as we're at a point where late rounders could be unlikely to make the roster. Again it depends on the evaluations and who is still available, as well as how the projections of next year's draft look.

I don't want to trade down, but I have a feeling we may do so.

Agreed, I definitely have players that I want if they are still on the board.

You're right Bull I forgot about the 3rd we traded for DW.

A good chance.

Unless the value the team sees at #42 is far greater than what they think will be there later in the draft, they will opt for the multiple picks.

I think much will depend on how much immediate impact the team is seeking out of that #42 pick. If they are wanting immediate impact, they probably stick. If they aren't needing that and are looking at more of a long term thing, they probably drop.

Oh...if they trade up, which isn't talked about much, they defiantly are throwing everything in to this season. Given the precarious position the staff is in, they may just do that. It seems to me that is a do or die season. Stefanski for sure. The FO possibly.

I can't say they will or won't trade down/back b/c they rarely do what I think is the obvious sensible thing at the time.
I may attempt to explain Why, they "should" not trade back "this" year and every year is different.

it starts with looking at the Browns team before the draft, are they completely void of NFL caliber players, therefore re@uiring that any and all players, even below average lower round drafted guys, later round picks would help by @uantity? No.
I mean, are we looking at a current Browns like the 2020 to 2022 Texans, or the Nineteen Ninety Nine to 2000 Browns expansion team? No.
Those teams Needed to trade down for more picks, even in the 2nd, in ninety nine they even had Darrin Chiaverini starting and it was described our Dbs were Cutch, Daylon Mccutcheon, and "don't know who", a safety, and don't know who, and dont' know who, for the five spots.

Well, in 2020 the Browns had about the most talent I've ever seen them have and I think that can be agreed on, and even today, I think one could agree the Browns have a player better than a random late round pick at many many positions, and
that would be a decent reason NOT to trade back for more less @uality selections
but to stay, or even trade UP for fewer but higher @uality selections.

Greedy Williams, AJ Green, Greg Newsome, even Martin Emerson at Corner, all better today, than what may have been, well for an example of a later round guy sheldrick Redwine, or even dude from the 6th round who got beat out last year but who had been a draft pick.

ok, offense, Even a M. Woods, and David Bell, and even Demetric Felton, whom they are not using right, would be =e@ual to what you might add after getting the extra pick by trading back or down.
Not to mention the OL, How, Haeg, and Forbes and Nick Harris, for goodness sakes Dawson ' why is he here' Deaton, and James Hudson,
all .. well one of, anyway, =E@ual to what they could expect from an additional late round selection.

how about DL. They don't need to trade back to draft ANOTHER Togiai, or Jordan Elliot. after all they just this week brought in 3 or 4 dudes who'd all be = to or better than they'd get in an additional pick by trading down.

No, it appears very obvious they should be aiming for TOP @uality, the BPA, best player available,
but,
if, a group a GM front office group is afraid, or un@ualified, or unwilling to make a decision on who is the best, then they may take the easy way out by trading back,
EVEN WHEN it is glaringly obvious that it's not the right move in a given year.

Basically trading back would be sending the message that all of those plethora of players not only don't belong "already on your team"
but that they'd all never really be expected to do anything in the NFL anyway, any more than a rookie college late round pick.

therefore, it seems the sensible thing is for the Browns to draft a "good" player when they are on the clock,
but the Browns defy sensibility regularly. NO?
Especially when it is Berry and Depo pulling the levers, so, they'll probably trade back like ...

Well the thing is that allegedly the players from 30-70 in this draft all have similar grades. Would you rather have one swing or two? If there's someone who stands out above the others on the board when we're up, take him. If there's a pod of ~twenty players all bunched together, why not try to take two of them?

I could see us potentially trading 42 for 61 and 64 with Chicago. I could see an OL being there that's high on the Bears' board that we don't really need. If the DL I like are gone, moving back to get a WR and different DL, one who's likely to be gone by 98, makes sense to me.

Potential UDFA maybe

It is a very good possibility ... one which depends on where we are trading down to and what handfull of prospects we like to be there at that point in the draft.