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Originally Posted by GMdawg
OH joy Level one chargers. Only 20+ hours to charge your car while you sleep in it lol.

Where by the way are the ones in New Middleton and Girard? I didn't find them on a google search?

The one in New Middletown is at the Ace Hardware on 170. I’m not sure where in Girard. I just know it’s there because my nephew had to stop and use it to get to New Middletown after stopping in Streetsboro to charge is Bolt.


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Those are the things to focus on.



Infrastructure/CHIPS package is/could be the jump-start to that process.

Incentives for semiconductor manufacturing, battery technology/production, power grid upgrades to handle the new demands...


Right off the bat, I'll say this: it won't be perfect.
But it will be a start- and it has the potential to re-write US economics and social structure. It can set the stage for a new business environment that will determine 21st c winners/losers. New manufacturing will require workers. The bills are designed to encourage domestic investment: manufacturing and jobs with an 'America First' bent. This will help to re-invigorate the working Middle Class, who have suffered economic genocide ever since US companies started shipping their jobs abroad (ummm... 'Rust Belt,' anyone?).

Also (and this is something that rarely gets addressed in conversations): Any town, every town that becomes home to one of these new facilities will see a surge in the health of the local economy. ' Small support industry' will come back out of necessity (think of the local/regional tool & die shops, the electrical contractors, etc). There will also most likely be a surge in population as well, as the new facility is constructed/manned/comes on-line. More neighbors means more local economic growth. Which means that even the local florist, bakery, car dealership and auto repair shop will benefit from the influx of people/capital/commerce. More people doing more business is a good thang, amiright?

Now look- I'm not naïve.
60+ spins around that hotass gassball of ours have taught me a few things. Lesson One: The promise of such endeavors is never fully met. We will fall short. We will fail miserably at times, and we'll also find examples of peoples' worst inclinations as the story moves forward.

But like I said: it's a start.
It's the kind of start that America hasn't really embraced since Eisenhower connected America via the Interstate Highway System. 70 years ago.

Tons of incidental problems loom in the future, because Life is messy. No doubt Dawgs will be barking at each other about these issues long after I've crossed The Rainbow Bridge. But one thing's certain, from my POV:

It takes a HUGE expenditure of energy to overcome stasis inertia.
America has been an 'un-moving object' for far too long. Big S# needs to happen, for small gains to take hold. And a foothold is all that's ever been required for things to start happening.

We could be on the cusp of the game being changed.


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Oh, yeah- I forgot. We were talking electric cars.
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Manufacturing in the US in general needs to make a huge comeback in every sector.

No doubt. I just hope it isn't too late. The things we need to happen won't turn on a dime, but we may be standing on that dime. Between politics, green concerns, and various other barriers, we may be hogtied. We may lose Tiwan by November, our biggest supplier of micro chips.

It isn't looking good.


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It isn't too late. This is already being addressed.....

Here’s the latest hot list of cool chip fabs coming to the US

This expanding list of fabs coming to the US includes some gaining impetus from the $52 billion US CHIPS Act passed in August. However, available land, an educated workforce, local contributions of dollars and streamlined regs all figure in where fabs are going to be built. Some projects are firmer than others.*

GlobalFoundries and Qualcomm: An expanded GF footprint in upstate New York got a boost from Qualcomm to commit to buy $7 billion in chips through 2028 that are used in 5G, automotive, Wi-Fi and IoT.

IBM: $20 billion over 10 years in New York to support its various chip-related initiatives, including quantum computing and AI. In Albany, IBM could be the hub of a collaborative approach for a National Semiconductor Technology Center envisioned in the CHIPS Act. IBM no longer directly manufactures chips, but announced 2nm technology in 2021.

Intel: $20 billion for two fabs in central Ohio, under construction in summer 2022, to make advanced logic chips. Intel broke ground in 2021 on two new fabs in Chandler, Arizona, a $20 billion investment. An advanced packaging facility is underway in New Mexico.

Micron: A $15 billion fab for its Boise HQ to make memory chips. Active prospects for billions of dollars more in fabs, including near Austin, Texas.In October, Micron committed to build four fabs on a site in central New York over 20 years at a cost of $100 billion.

Samsung: A $17 billion fab for Taylor, Texas, was announced in late 2021. The South Korean company laid out preliminary long-term plans in July for 11 fabs in Texas over coming years worth nearly $191 billion.

Texas Instruments: A potential $30 billion investment plan includes four fabs in Sherman, Texas. Ground was broken in May for new 300mm wafer fabs.

TSMC: Taiwan-based TSMC has multiple fabs, including one in Camas, Washington, with a $12 billion fab under construction in Phoenix to make chips on the 5nm process.

Wolfspeed: $5 billion for a silicon carbide wafer fab in central North Carolina

https://www.fierceelectronics.com/sensors/heres-latest-hot-list-cool-chip-fabs-coming-us


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