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DW can be good, great or phenomenal, but the above sentence says it all. Imo.

Yet it seems very few posters claimed that the Browns could go all the way without an elite QB. As a matter of fact most of them stated that was the only obstacle standing in the way of it. The Browns must have agreed since they spent a huge percentage of their salary in what "they hope" will be an elite QB. Opinions change like the direction of the wind around here.

There is no rule against giving Dorian Thompson Robertson one offensive series in every game, to help his development.

if he is seeing significant time like that it can only mean that our season went south

there is no question that we need our defense to be much better obviously. I'm still worried about us up the middle there

I forsee a future in football where every player plays, like the 4 lines in Hockey, in many ways it already exists now except for at @uarterback, or starting" @uarterback..
If you draft a player like DTR ,I think you have to let him play, especially if it turns out he plays better than Watson.
eventually.

In the nfl..... the defense can never get good enough, better enough if your own offense keeps giving it back to their offense, again and again and again, without doing anything with your own offense.

the rules of the game are not set up that way, not set up for 0 to 0 outcomes and the Browns prove it often with their own offenses' inept performances.

There was a raider game where the Browns intercepted a pass with under 2 min to go and the lead,
and the Browns still lost b/c the Browns offense is a tire fire in those situations, whether it's the coaches, not able to change their thinking back to offense, or player execution of plays.

Let's visit an example of that shall we? I'll use last year as the latest example. Now everyone questioned the D and actually called for Woods to be fired which is exactly what was done. But even with Woods as the DC let's look at how close many of those games were.

The Browns lost to the Jets by one point.

They lost to the Falcons by three points.

They lost to the Chargers by two points.

They lost to the Ravens by three points.

That's a total of four games lost by three points or less. The Browns had a 7-10 record all while having a backup QB starting and playing eleven of those games. Are you trying to say that a 230 million dollar QB with upgrades at the WR position shouldn't make at least a three to four point point difference in the total points your team scores per game over a season where your backup QB started eleven of those games? Given wins in those four games the Browns record would have been 11-6.

If watson can't put four more points per game on the scoreboard it will have been a huge waste of 230 million dollars and money and a second round draft pick upgrading the WR position.

Keep in mind the NFL is a corporation. In a corporation those spending the money expect a return on their investment.

Yet if the O had scored only a few more points in those games last year the Browns would have won them all. You know what everyone is avoiding here? The question of after the Browns spending 230 million dollars on a QB and a second round draft pick on a new WR, should be the Browns be realistically expected to score more points? They're avoiding it like the plague. Including you it would appear.

So you are or are not saying our O should score more points after spending 230 million on a QB and a second round draft pick to upgrade the WR position? I'm still not seeing an answer to that question.

And BTW how many points does an opponent have to score for your defense to have considered to have "gave up"? We must certainly have a different definition of that. In the Atlanta game they scored 23 points. In the Ravens game they too scored 23 points. And while you are right concerning the other two games, the Browns still lost by very small margins using a back up QB.

You still can't even state that watson should be able to score more points with this O than the backup QB?

Don't overlook that if the Browns had scored 4 more points
then

the opponent would have scored five more points and you

still would have lost because your coach... ... wet paper bag.

all analytics does is reveal to the other team how hard they have to work to beat you, and it analyises itself into about a

seven and ten record, IF, you recover that onside kick, to win those seven.

"despite finishing in 4th place the Browns have a ton of talent"

I never once claimed you expected them not to. I claimed you hadn't stated that you expected them to. Nothing you posted previously to your last post had stated that either.

But finally you did answer the question. Thanks.

But when you’re getting Deshaun money, you better pull your weight. Bottom line.