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Matt (Beavis) Gaetz, was on MSNBC earlier calling Biden corrupt and accusing him of taking bribes… Yet he did not have one shred of proof or evidence, just Trumpian rhetoric and hate. He was furious that McCarthy is backing down on impeachment.

I don't think this is a "GOP tactic". Those are your fellow Americans. And 69% believe his actions were illegal.

We have had about a year of investigate the Bidens (Hunter/Joe) and the doofus(es) Comer and Gym Jordan are not really legitimate voices are they?

It's there job to change public opinion, and that oversight post is part of their propaganda campaign.

Remember Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.....

Trump has 4 indictments, its pretty easy that they are penciling an impeachment for Joe, though so far all they have done well if make themself look like the partisan hack they wish to be.

61% versus 69%, how do explain that one.

Involvement is not bribery.

Here's another partisan hack, one of Biden's favorites, one of his golden boys. The tide is turning amongst the democratic ranks.

Favorite Biden columnist: He "should not run again in 2024"


As far as the "bribes", It's not just about whether they'll find DNA on a bank account, Americans think he's lying and was involved with some shady business deals.

69% of those that think he was involved think it is illegal.
Here's the poll, that section is on page 20. I don't think CNN has actually broadcast the info, probably doesn't fit the narrative.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23940784/cnn-poll.pdf

I did not want Grandpa Joe to be the democratic nominee. But it was an easy choice when Trump was the opponent.

There never will be a basis of comparison for the two. It's a false narrative until it is not.

You will need some of that DNA at some point in time to make the claim stick. It's called Evidence. Proof. Facts. Not opinions like "the election was stolen". Tell any lie so often it becomes truth is a hallmark of autocratic countries. Or as Rudy once said "Truth is not Truth".

If you break it down 99 percent of Republicans think he is corrupt just because he is a democrat. Independents are probably 50/50, and 25 percent of Democrats are hoping its true, because the man is just too old for another term as President. That is how you get to 61 or 69 percent.

Odd. You get a pass for voting for Joe over Trump, but I get labeled a Trumpian for voting for Trump over hillary.

Well, that Trump thing is about the size of an aircraft carrier boat anchor.

No one is above the law!!!

You in the Trump thread: "Sad that a political party has weaponized the legal system against their political rivals. Let these kind of actions stand and see where this country is at in the future."

You in the Biden thread: "No one is above the law!!!"

All of this is a Pandora's box that is going to be hard to close. We can expect investigation after investigation moving forward.

He also doesn't have the WRITTEN agreement of what McCarthy agreed to to become Speaker. I wonder what they are afraid of by not showing that agreement? Ari was hammering him on that and he just danced around it.

So if I'm reading you correctly, they simply don't have the good on Joe?

I have to find the article but it states that Trump met with members of the GOP in the house where it was discussed that they gotta impeach Joe.

They believed Mexico was going to pay for a wall too. The GOP has repeated the same thing over and over again enough people have began to believe things there is no evidence to support. Just like the election was stolen.

You must have forgotten about his post that "The only criminals I see are Democrats!"

While trump is charged with 91 counts and Biden is charged with 0.

Are you speaking about the four upcoming trials? We already have investigation after investigation. That's all this GOP congress has done since they've been elected. And it's them who keep whining about witch hunts.

Trump privately discussed Biden impeachment with GOP lawmakers

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...cussed-biden-impeachment-with-lawmakers/

The puppet master is still pulling all of their strings.

I think the circumstance around Hunter/Joe falls more along the lines of communications via phone or in person without bank records involved. That would pass the sniff test.

I also think that one of the stumbling blocks was one of the FBI investigators wanted to take a peek at Joe's bank and tax records, but because Hunter did not have anything to link money from Hunter passing to Joe, the FBI has no basis to look at Joe.

Now Joe's tax records are public, and I think the house wants to go after them and his bank records as well. I don't think they will find anything.

They already claimed they don't need any direct evidence. They threw that BS against the wall in August.

GOPers want an impeachment investigation to simply go fishing for something to impeach him for… That’s not how this works. You need cause and they have no cause other than their feelings and Trump wanting it done.

James Comer Can’t Explain to Newsmax Why He Won’t Just Subpoena Hunter Biden

In a real “dog that caught the car” moment, House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer (R-KY) was left with nothing but excuses on Wednesday when a Newsmax host pressed him on why he doesn’t just subpoena presidential scion Hunter Biden.

“It’s very difficult,” Comer, who has led the charge for impeachment, said at one point.

After months of MAGA caterwauling, Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy finally launched an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden, despite the fact that Republicans have yet to provide any concrete evidence of wrongdoing on the president’s part. Additionally, McCarthy went back on his word to hold a House vote to authorize the inquiry, likely due to the fact that he currently doesn’t have enough support from within his own caucus.

One of the GOP lawmakers tapped by McCarthy to lead the inquiry, Comer has pushed wild allegations that the president is the mastermind of the “Biden crime family” and accused him of accepting millions of dollars in bribes from foreign oligarchs to impact U.S. policymaking.

At the same time, though, Comer has been unable to provide any documentation linking Hunter Biden’s business dealings to the president or any “hard proof” that the president received any foreign bribes. Even Fox News hosts have told the Kentucky lawmaker he’s shown “no evidence that Joe Biden did anything illegally” and that he can’t explain what policy decisions of Biden’s were impacted by this supposed corruption.

During a Wednesday morning appearance on Newsmax, the MAGA channel that has helped whip up the GOP’s impeachment obsession, Comer had no answers when anchor Rob Finnerty simply asked him why he didn’t haul the president’s son before Congress.

“Why not subpoena him and have him testify on Capitol Hill, even if he doesn’t say anything? That’s going to be uncomfortable for the president to have his son testifying on the Hill,” Finnerty wondered.

The oversight chairman, who has been investigating the Bidens for nearly a year now, immediately demurred.

“Right. Well, when I announced the investigation early on, I said we’re going to follow the money,” he replied. “And Hunter Biden is more than welcome to come in front of the committee. If he wants to clear his good name, if he wants to come and say, ‘You know, these weren’t 20 shell companies, they actually did something,’ he’s more than—he’s invited today.”

“He’s not going to volunteer to do that. We both know that. But if you subpoena him, he then has to,” the Newsmax morning host retorted.

“Well, he can fight the subpoena in court. It’s very difficult,” Comer shot back with more excuses. “You know, I think if it were easy to get a president or their son in front of a House committee, the Jan. 6 Committee probably would have done that with Donald Trump.”

Conceding that was a “good point,” Finnerty then pointed out that the president’s son is “different” and “everyone always says Hunter Biden is a private citizen.” He also told Comer that it’s “not like you’re you’re subpoenaing” the president at this very moment.

The GOP congressman, seemingly in an effort to get the usually sympathetic Newsmax anchor off his back, then insisted that he could possibly get around to it in short order.

“But what we found in the last few weeks is he was communicating back and forth with the government about Ukrainian policy, which is a huge problem for Joe Biden,” Comer declared. “Look, I would say we will get to the point very soon where we subpoena Hunter Biden. But at this point right now, I just want the bank records because we’re following the money, and our concern is that Joe Biden was, in fact, benefiting from these schemes, from these illegal, corrupt activities of his son and brother.”

Notably, after obtaining thousands of pages of financial records from the Biden family, which have yet to show any link to the president, Comer and Republicans are now arguing that they don’t actually need “to show payments directly to the President to show corruption.” The House GOP’s own hand-picked witnesses have also testified that the president was not involved in his son’s business dealings. (Though Comer did skip that interview, so one could forgive him for not remembering this.)

Furthermore, while Comer has asserted that he’s identified $20 million of foreign payments flowing to the Biden family through “shell companies”—most of which have legitimate business interests—the vast majority of that money was paid to Hunter Biden’s non-family business partners. And none of those funds went to Joe Biden.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/james...y5vO6unsu89d_roYHSjTRg0V5ql4OTCfFaD9v8S4

We believe because we think we know. What a strong case that is!

Well here, I assume you vote...

Do you think Joe was knew of his son's business dealings and has been lying all this time?

Do you think he benefitted, monetarily?

Do you think that would be illegal?

Would that impact how you vote?

And how does what one side tend to "think" have anything to do with what the reality of it is?

Yeah, that's one of them, there are others out there also. Thanks for posting it.

Well here, I assume you vote...
I vote

Do you think Joe was knew of his son's business dealings and has been lying all this time?
In a general sense yes, in a business sense (planning, contracting and accounting), no.

Do you think he benefitted, monetarily?
No, not directly.

Do you think that would be illegal?
That depends if it is in line with the relevant laws and tax code, (i.e. gift) which can go either way. But my inclination is that there is no paper trail.

Would that impact how you vote?
If Trump is the opponent, no.

I think those answers pretty much echo the majority of America. Thanks.

I have voiced my thoughts on Grandpa Joe as well.

Frankly they are both too old for the job.

j/c...


Damn, I just use direct deposit when people are "paying me for my services". Seems complicated...

All what I have to say is that it looks like someone is intentionally vague and obtuse in graphics development.

Specific issues since I know about K1's. Let's focus on Joe and Hunter.

The graphic around Big Equity Investors appears to have an error. 50 percent is distributed to James Biden Senior and 50 percent to RHB which appears to be a person aka Robert Hunter Biden (circle (people), not rectangle (corporations)),

The entity "Equity Distribution" diamond appears to be a bit bogus, and has Joe Biden III receiving 42 percent on a K1 is which would likely be from a corporate entity. Big Equity Investors is distributing all profits to James Biden and RHB aka Hunter, so there is nothing left for equity distribution. They can't physically touch on a flow chart.

Equity Distribution is distributing 10 percent of profits to RHB aka Hunter well via a K1, but Equity Distribution is not identified as a corporation. The rest is meaningless, because there is no flow of cash via K1.

That can't work. A more plausible point is that "Equity Distribution" may be Joe's personal assets, or a corporation set up to manage his personal assets, something like a blind trust corporation. Since this is 2014, it would make sense for Joe to have another entity manage his assets, as he would have been vice president.

So what the heck is Equity Distribution ????

I could pick it apart more, but that would just be piling on.

In plain English, Equity Distribution is a personal retirement savings or investments that a person draws upon.

So Joe and Hunter received money from Joe's investments.

This “impeachment inquiry” is a big sham to muddy Biden’s name because Trump is such a criminal. GOPers are off the hook again. Watch them fiddle fart around while the government shuts down, then cry it’s not their fault. You could replace every GOPer in the house with a turd and nobody would notice.

No, that appears something provided to the House Ways and Means committee by a whistleblower.

Obviously, most likely not reviewed for accuracy or content.

The internet can be powerful. Search exhibit 508A. Joesph Ziegler as contributor in an affidavit.

I suspect the author may have bias against the Biden’s.

Just wondering, have they found any proof of these accusations against Joe Biden? Based solely on the hearing held on Thursday, it doesn't appear so, so I was just asking in case I missed something.

Not as shred of evidence has been presented. It has just been a master class in dumbassery.

I believe the answer is No. But that is meaningless, its payback time. I think the IRS whistleblower wanted to get into Joes bank accounts and Audit his tax returns but the FBI won’t go there without evidence is something going on between Hunter and Joe.

Odid, I thought Biden made all his and his wife’s taxes public before the election. That should have covered that timeframe. Or I seem to remember it that way, but did not verify the details.

To this date, there has been no verifiable evidence that connects POTUS 46 to any alleged wrongdoing by his son tracing directly back to the father.

Time will spin out the rest of this story, but to date:

1. You haven't missed anything. You are still on-time.
2. This House inquiry has turned up the exact same amount of verifiable evidence as the endless inquiries into Benghazi, HRC's e-mails, and POTUS 44's citizenship.

Until anything of substance comes out anew, this is where we stand.

Open your eyes Clem, there is a ton of evidence out there.

My cousin Bob knows a guy who's brother's best friend has a sister who dated this guy who heard on the radio that ....

So I think it's very safe to say, Republicans in the house are doing this to give Trump a victory of sorts.

T’d say it’s to pacify Trump’s desire to muddy the waters.

They are public. I don’t know if they were audited to verify the sources and each line item scrutinized.