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Funny since the incel community is at least 90% conservative males.

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lol why you hating on the guys like that. Where’s your real Alpha male at, Eve?

I have an alpha male. He can identify a vagina. Because he is a conservative.

Meanwhile libtard women be like https://www.foxnews.com/media/liber...ing-hard-find-masculine-man-conservative

Oh you found him at that conservative only dating site? That’s cool I’m happy for you.

No, I found him at a sports bar. Yenno, one of those places thats too manly for liberals.

Oh you talking to a liberal dude like Lauren Boebart and just don’t want to be outed. Them conservative males got themselves a passport and getting themselves a traditional woman.

He's more conservative than I am.

You ain’t even that conservatives, to be honest. Successful career, have your own business, educated and balling?

Straight threat to conservative dudes. Ain’t no way you gonna make more money than them.

Thats kinda true. There's no men who want their woman making more money than them. But I had that experience with liberals too. When I was younger and didnt care about politics.

I would love to have my wife make more money than me.

Dudes just need a software update. We live in a world where people can choose to live traditional lifestyles or choose something different. And it’s way too expensive out in these streets for dudes to be concerned with being the sole provider.

But our American society states that men’s value is tied to their economic productivity, with everything else secondary. Our same society then somehow claims to value family and fathers in the household. It’s a conundrum created by men, that we refuse to address.

I'm a little upset that this went from being a fecal-flinging discussion to a constructive back-and-forth.

Come on, guys, this forum has a reputation to uphold.

You seem to be confusing two different things here. If you wish to look at the death penalty for pedophiles in isolation, in and of itself as the laws stand today, I would agree that it's a good thing. But that's not what has been going on in Florida. What we have seen with our own eyes is that in Florida it starts out as something that seems innocent enough on the surface but it morphs into far more. What you seem to refuse to do is look beyond the surface because isolating this without looking at the other circumstances going on in Florida creates more questions than answers. So it's much better for people such as yourself to focus on this in isolation without looking at other factors.

Republicans have controlled Florida’s governor’s office and Legislature since 1999. That's 14 years. So why has it taken the Florida legislature 14 years to address it? Why is now the point in time they decided to do that? Do you think this is some new idea that their legislature simply had a light bulb come on in the middle of the night and say, "Aha! What a great idea! The death penalty for pedophiles!". No, there is a new and invigorated movement going on in Florida to target the LGBTQ community and they have their voters on board with that. A connection has been created to link the LGBTQ community to pedophilia. That really isn't debatable. So to pretend the timing of this law is serendipitous is naive at best.

As we saw in the watson case, the definition of laws and their wording differ from state to state. In that case it was the definition of sexual assault and how much that definition varies from state to state. And in each state those laws and the wording of what they encompass is determined and changes over time left to the whims of the state legislature. So it is in Florida and what the term of pedophilia may or may not encompass in the future. And let's not pretend a precedent hasn't been set that what they propose which sounds to have good intentions to begin with hasn't been extended and expanded to something all together different because it has.

"Don't say gay" to k-3rd grade" sounds like a logical thing. It sounds innocent and innocuous enough on the surface. But as was warned and came to fruition, that wasn't the end of it but only the beginning of it. We had almost this exact same discussion about that topic as well. It didn't turn out well for those that were warned that it would be expanded and only the beginning of more to come. But here you are again with pretty much the same argument which will end pretty much the same way. Why? Because Florida has already shown you who they are but you refuse to see it.

Some people are smart enough to know that once a dog bites you, look out or it will bite you again. Some people aren't.

And no, it won't make it lessen attacks of trans people. It will only help to reinforce what they've believed all along. Trans people deserve to die. And there's one thing you ignored to consider. That wouldn't be a question in the first place if the state of Florida hadn't made the trans community a target and proposed this law at the exact same time. It's they who created the very question you proposed.

Blah, blah, blah... I'm not reading that trash, neither is anyone else on the internet.

Refusing to address the truth seems to be a common theme these days. I understand you are unwilling to enter an actual discussion or debate of substance. Then you turn around and claim it's me with the "blah, blah, blah" and label me as the troll. It's become quite the trend these days. I'm trying to have a rational debate and you're flinging $#!+ against the wall.

Maybe someone with the actual willingness to have an actual discussion will come along. I can always count on the fact that it won't be you.

"rational debate" 🤣

What you really mean is talk about what you want to and ignore any points concerning the actual conversation at hand.

Oh, yeah, and never, ever, ever, ever admit you're wrong about anything.

One more time...

RAPING CHILDREN BAD. (I've dumbed it down as far as I can).


But once again, feel free to tell us how marginalized and endangered trans people are. I'm dying to pore over more childish whining, lies and endless cut 'n pastes.

I agreed that raping children is bad. I agreed that if you look at the law in isolation it's good. What you refuse to do is engage in anything other than that. And still it continues. Same as it ever was.

The statistics on the increasing violence on the trans community should tell you that. I shouldn't have to. All of the laws proceeding this should tell you the trend that the state has intended and who it is they are targeting. I shouldn't have to. The timing of when this law was proposed and passed should tell you something. I shouldn't have to. But instead you wish to turn a deaf ear to it all and make that sounds like it's my fault.

In the 'some people are not" category, would you include Biden and his german shepards? His latest dog, commander bit, if memory serves me, something like 10 or 12 people in the last year.

I digress. What got this all started I believe was the comment from some person (not a poster on here) that this law would make the trans +++++ people targets. That was posted as "proof" that the trans+++ people target children. While they may - I don't know - it is highly unlikely that segment of society does so at a higher proportion the a different segment of society.

In other words, the law applies to ALL the letters, as well as the H word: Heterosexuals.

Once again you are one who only wishes to address the law itself and not the bigger trend going on in Florida today. I doubt you will engage but I'll try anyway.

Can you explain to me why it is that in Florida the GOP has controlled the governor position and the legislation for 14 year but until right now they have never proposed such a law? Are you trying to claim it doesn't have anything to do with the political atmosphere surrounding the trans community? You don't think it has anything to do with the fact that more and more people are claiming the trans community are pedophiles?

Now be honest here, they weren't in power for 14 years and then suddenly wake up to the fact that pedophiles deserve the death penalty one morning.

It's great to see someone in their own party call people out for things like this. I wish we saw more of it.

"This just in: Sunday popcorn sales affect trans community in Indiana.
Story at 11."

BS posted at 3:22

Why on earth do you think this is targeted at trans +++ people? There is nothing in the law that says "trans people will be put to death". It applies to every citizen of florida.

Or, are you saying trans are more prone to that?

Republicans have been in "power" in Florida for 14 years? I would guess because the citizens voted for them. Wouldn't you agree?

And a question for you: Since the law applies to everyone, what is your problem with it?

I'm saying it is a part of the overall theme that's going on in Florida right now. That it helps affirm people's preconceived notions that trans people are pedophiles and deserve to die. I'm also saying that the more political focus being placed on undermining trans rights the more embolden those who are willing to use violence against them has increased. That's based on actual statistics and not what someone is "prone to".


Once again, if you can stop avoiding the question..... Why is it that the GOP in Florida took 14 years to address this? What is it about this point in time that made them feel now was the time to address it after ignoring it for 14 years? So you can stop avoiding that and stop acting like i have some problem with who the voters selected to represent them.


I'm not sure what part of this you are missing. In isolation I don't have a problem with it. What I have a problem with is we saw exactly what happened with the "don't say gay bill". They claimed it was only for grades k-3. Soon it became something totally different. Some wish to ignore that.

The legislature also has the power to change the wording and definition of laws. As in the case of watson we saw how varied differing states definition of what constituted sexual abuse was. The same can hold true as it pertains to what the definition of pedophilia means. If this works out anything like the don't say gay bill did in Florida, what the definition of pedophilia means in the law will turn out to be very different from what it means now.

People saw this coming when they introduced the don't say gay bill. They warned people it was only the beginning and it would look much different by the time they were done. And people just like yourself were using very much the same argument. "What's wrong with not allowing grades k-3 not being able to be taught about being gay?" Which just as in this case made sense if you looked at it in isolation without seeing the end goal.

You didn't see the end goal then and you don't see the end goal now. The old fool me once saying doesn't seem to apply to you. But then had you bothered reading this thread you would have known all of this rather than me having to explain it again. Maybe FATE's idea about me using copy ans paste was a good idea and time saver after all.

This is the silliest argument.

If the law didn't pass there would be much more "harm" to the trans community. The cross-eyed extremists would take the law into their own hands since the law itself won't give them their pound of flesh. Easy math. Net gain for the trans folk. Pit won't answer to that, because it literally ends his argument.

In Pit's world, this wasn't about crime and punishment at all. They weren't deciding if sickos would live or die for their crimes, that was a cover for an "attack" on the trans community.

The Florida GOP from fourteen years ago, time-traveled fourteen years into the future and saw that they needed to save the death penalty law for now -- in an effort to cause more "harm" to the trans community.

Yes, not reinforcing someone's already predisposition to embolden their beliefs makes things much worse.

I love how you continue to ignore my points, refuse to address them and then make some false comparison to what I've said. Your trainers have taught you well.

And of course "pedophilia was different back in the day" ie... 14 years ago. They just figured out how bad it was and felt the need to act on it. Sometimes I don't even think you hear yourself. Of course it's about punishing sickos. But it's about even more than that.

You made the same argument about the don't say gay bill. You were wrong then and you've learned nothing from it.

Well, to use your ''''''''''excuse'''' for biden and the wall..............maybe they learned something? Again, the LAW would apply to EVERYONE. What is the problem with that????

You are here to push the democrats and attack the republicans, ad nauseum. When an R does something, you hate it. When a D does something, you defend it.

You don't just change the goal posts, you change which end someone is kicking at, and when that fails, you change the stadium, and when that fails, you change the sport.


ARE you, or are you NOT in favor of protecting kids from ALL predators? Simple question. Answer yes, or no. And I guarantee you can't make a 1 word reply.

What. in the world. is wrong with this turd?

$hillary should probably just stick with what she does best: Xanax and suicides.

What part of "in isolation I agree with this law" did you miss? I've said it more than once.

I put it in bold this time so maybe you will get it.

So I'm making up that when Disney spoke out against the don't say gay bill DeSantis used his political power to attack them?

I'm making up that you were told that when you promoted the don't say gay bill because it "protected little kids" I also said that on the surface it sounded good but it wouldn't end there. That it was only the beginning. And that's exactly what happened. So now that exactly what I said would happen, did happen, you call that a democratic talking point?

Those aren't democratic talking points. Those are actually factual events that happened that you easily dismiss because you call them democratic talking points.

It's not a democratic talking point that while all of the events I stated above are happening, after holding both the governors seat and the legislature for 14 years, now, in this political environment which they created they've decided to address this with such a law.

What you seem to overlook is there are some very irrational people in our society. People that don't know the laws or even what the definition of a pedophile is. They claim that gays and trans people are all pedophiles. Hell, a guy even went to a pizza place in Washington DC with a loaded AK because he actually believed that there was some democratic run child sex trafficking ring in the basement.

This will only act to embolden those who feel that everyone "they consider a pedophile" deserves to die.

And no, you're not going to frame my answer to a one word reply. Especially since I've answered that question multiple times already. You don't write the rules and only a troglodyte thinks everything can be answered with one word. There are going to be some very serious consequences to the timing of when this law was enacted. they knew that when they did it and the timing of it was purposeful. When one fails to see a pattern and ignore what's been going on around them, you just can't reach them. This law wasn't created in isolation. It's a part of a pattern and timing that is quite purposeful. The fact you fail to see that isn't a me problem.

You still just can't let Hillary go can you? Some people may call that a fetish. It looks like you got it bad for your old gal Hillary.

That turd just said half of America needs to go to deprogramming.

"I can't let Hillary go?"

Hillary holds no power. Yet you cling to that while at the same time saying those who bring up the leader of the GOP and front runner to be their nominee to run for president when he says things just as bad and worse are the one's with the issue.

Trump said Mark Milley should be executed. According to you saying that would be TDS.

Maybe now you realize just how stupid that sounds.

Oh, crap, I forgot to say "Trump".

You always do. No matter what he does. Unless of course you're blaming someone else because they brought it up. Then you do a fine job.

Hoping maybe you got a good night's sleep and maybe you can actually answer the question today...

So...

What would be worse for "trans hate" and "trans attacks" in Florida"?

A. The death penalty law passing.
B. The death penalty law failing.

I answered you multiple times yesterday. Your inability to keep up isn't my problem.

Sadly you can't seem to figure out that a lot of people THINK that every gay person, trans person and even democrat politicians are ALL pedophiles. This only reinforces that what they have believed all along. That ALL of those people deserve to die. Now you tell me? Just for once look around you. Look at all the people that think they have the right to enforce the law and do take the law into their own hands. The increase in vigilante justice. The answer should be obvious here.

The law in and of itself as it stands today is a good thing, but the timing of it and the consequences that will result outside of the courtroom were timed and purposeful.

I'm not talking about people like you and I. We know what a pedophile is. We believe that such things should be handled via due process. But trying to pretend that there isn't a very large contingent out there to the contrary is a very naive way to think. And to think this law won't embolden them is short sighted.

No you didn't. At least not in this thread. If I missed it, quote it out. Or, we'll try again:

What would be worse for "trans hate" and "trans attacks" in Florida"?

A. The death penalty law passing.
B. The death penalty law failing.

I didn’t hear her say all Republicans, she was just talking about the Trump dupes that fell for his BS. And I agree, they have been programmed in hate. The only fix is deprogramming the hate. I don’t LIKE HRC anymore than you, but I can see the flaws on both sides. Hell, progressives, the sickening crybaby pink pussycat hat screaming type of progressives drive me crazy. But I’m still a progressive ideologically because I think it’s the best approach to govern on a people first level. And I’m sure you and the other board posters on the right can find plenty about the right that you dislike. And we are all living through times none of us would have thought possible 25 years ago. So everyone, especially our politicians, are of the chain a bit on the daily. HRC in these comments and Trump on everything are good examples of that. But I feel you, because it is getting really hard to process crap like this and to continue giving a damn about the other… I still say the problem is in the divides and caused by the dividers.