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The Final Chapters?? Does that mean you will soon stop posting this dung?


rofl yep. When the GOPers finally give it up and loose their civil war they have going on up in here.


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Former U.S. President Donald Trump on November 8, 2023, in Hialeah, Florida. The FEC Commissioner has called on her Republican colleagues to act on complaints of campaign finance violations against Trump.
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Donald Trump has effectively been made exempt from campaign finance laws because the Federal Election Commission (FEC) refuses to investigate him, FEC Commissioner Ellen Weintraub has said.

In a statement, Weintraub, an attorney and Democrat who works for the government agency, said on Thursday that there have been at least 58 instances where the body, which enforces campaign finance law in federal elections, has heard allegations against the Republican, accusing him or his family members of violating regulations.

In at least 28 of those, staff at the Office of General Counsel determined that a criminal investigation was warranted, she said.

But Weintraub added that her Republican colleagues put the former president in a "category by himself" by refusing to approve any of the recommendations against Trump. Newsweek contacted representatives for Trump and the GOP by email to comment on this story on Friday.

"My colleagues purport to be treating the former President and the current President alike, but the data is clear: At the FEC, Mr. Trump is in category by himself," Weintraub said.

Weintraub did not elaborate on which cases the general counsel suggested should be investigated. But there have been high-profile instances in which complainants have filed complaints to the body about the former president. Newsweek has contacted Weintraub and the FEC by email to comment on this story.



Last March, for instance, The American Bridge Super PAC, a Democratic fundraising organization filed a complaint to the FEC accusing Trump of violating campaign finance laws by spending political funds for a 2024 presidential bid without officially declaring his 2024 candidacy. He formally announced his bid in November 2022.

Under federal election campaign rules, candidates are required to register with the FEC within 15 days of receiving contributions or spending more than $5,000 on a presidential campaign and the complaint said he had been spending hundreds and thousands on Facebook ads.

At the time, Trump's team criticized the filing, calling it a "cheap gimmick" that revealed how the Democratic party "has become a dumpster fire that's void of solutions and substances" in a press statement.

In July, the PAC filed a lawsuit against the FEC because it had not yet taken action.

Meanwhile, in May 2021, the FEC dropped a case looking into a hush-money scandal involving payments to an adult film actress in the lead-up to the 2016 election by his lawyer at the time, Michael D. Cohen.

Cohen said Trump directed him to arrange payments and was sentenced to prison for breaking campaign finance laws, tax evasion and lying to Congress. While the Office of General Counsel said it had "reason to believe" violations of campaign finance law were made "knowingly and willfully" by the Trump campaign, the FEC voted not to proceed.

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Trump still stoking the lies he knows will lead to violence as it did on Jan. 6th.......

On Veterans Day, Trump Vows to ‘Root Out’ Leftist ‘Vermin’

To commemorate Veterans Day, former President Donald Trump took to Truth Social to rail against leftist “vermin” and perpetuate his lies of election fraud. On Saturday, the 2024 GOP candidate wrote that he would “root out the Communists, Marxists, Fascists, and Radical Left Thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our Country, lie, steal, and cheat on Elections, and will do anything possible, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America, and the American Dream.” The online rant, perhaps created more for MAGA pandering than honoring military vets, continued, “The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave, than the threat from within. Despite the hatred and anger of the Radical Left Lunatics who want to destroy our Country, we will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/on-veterans-day-trump-vows-to-root-out-leftist-vermin


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Trump still stoking the lies he knows will lead to violence as it did on Jan. 6th.......

On Veterans Day, Trump Vows to ‘Root Out’ Leftist ‘Vermin’

To commemorate Veterans Day, former President Donald Trump took to Truth Social to rail against leftist “vermin” and perpetuate his lies of election fraud. On Saturday, the 2024 GOP candidate wrote that he would “root out the Communists, Marxists, Fascists, and Radical Left Thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our Country, lie, steal, and cheat on Elections, and will do anything possible, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America, and the American Dream.” The online rant, perhaps created more for MAGA pandering than honoring military vets, continued, “The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave, than the threat from within. Despite the hatred and anger of the Radical Left Lunatics who want to destroy our Country, we will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/on-veterans-day-trump-vows-to-root-out-leftist-vermin


LMAO, psychotic ego-maniac projection ramblings. Trump is the vermin and MAGA needs tp be rooted out. Calling dems fascists is laughable after seeing what the right has become. They can’t call us anything that they haven’t proven to be themselves. It’s like watching children throw tantrums.


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Trump still stoking the lies he knows will lead to violence as it did on Jan. 6th.......

On Veterans Day, Trump Vows to ‘Root Out’ Leftist ‘Vermin’

To commemorate Veterans Day, former President Donald Trump took to Truth Social to rail against leftist “vermin” and perpetuate his lies of election fraud. On Saturday, the 2024 GOP candidate wrote that he would “root out the Communists, Marxists, Fascists, and Radical Left Thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our Country, lie, steal, and cheat on Elections, and will do anything possible, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America, and the American Dream.” The online rant, perhaps created more for MAGA pandering than honoring military vets, continued, “The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave, than the threat from within. Despite the hatred and anger of the Radical Left Lunatics who want to destroy our Country, we will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/on-veterans-day-trump-vows-to-root-out-leftist-vermin

Bro, this time I really thought this was satire, like somebody just made it up.

And then he doubled down.

And maybe it’s just me, but running on MAGA implies that he didn’t make American great his first go around. Yet somehow he’s gonna get it right this time? Nah.

America was great well before he ran for office. It will remain great long after he’s gone.


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Fascism Expert Offers Truly Chilling Take On Donald Trump’s ‘Vermin’ Rant
Jason Stanley explained the former president's vow to purge the "radical left."

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Fascism expert Jason Stanley on Sunday said former President Donald Trump’s Veterans Day vow to purge the “vermin”-like “radical left” more than just echoed Nazi Germany dictator Adolf Hitler.

MSNBC’s Mehdi Hasan asked the Yale University professor, who authored “How Fascism Works,” if he was “wrong to make the historical comparison to antisemitic propaganda during the Nazi years.”

“No,” Stanley replied. “It doesn’t echo ‘Mein Kampf’ ― this is textbook ‘Mein Kampf.’”
“Any antisemite will hear this vocabulary as directed against Jews,” he argued.

Hitler details his political ideology in his 1925 autobiographical manifesto “Mein Kampf,” which translates to “My Struggle.”

During a Saturday speech in Claremont, New Hampshire, Trump said if he wins back the White House in 2024, he would “root out the Communists, Marxists, Fascists, and Radical Left Thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our Country, lie, steal, and cheat on Elections, and will do anything possible, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America, and the American Dream.”

“The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave, than the threat from within,” the Republican 2024 front-runner added. “Despite the hatred and anger of the Radical Left Lunatics who want to destroy our Country, we will MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fascism-expert-donald-trump-nazis_n_6551cc32e4b0373d70b2ca1e


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Trump calls political enemies ‘vermin,’ echoing dictators Hitler, Mussolini
On Veterans Day, the former president vowed to “root out” his liberal opponents, drawing backlash from historians who say his rhetoric is reminiscent of authoritarians


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November 12, 2023 at 5:45 p.m. EST

Former president Donald Trump denigrated his domestic opponents and critics during a Veterans Day speech Saturday, calling those on the other side of the aisle “vermin” and suggesting that they pose a greater threat to the United States than countries such as Russia, China or North Korea. That language is drawing rebuke from historians, who compared it to that of authoritarian leaders.
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“We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections,” Trump said toward the end of his speech, repeating his false claims that the 2020 election was stolen. “They’ll do anything, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and to destroy the American Dream.”
Trump went on further to state: “the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within. Because if you have a capable, competent, smart, tough leader, Russia, China, North Korea, they’re not going to want to play with us.”

The former president’s speech in Claremont, N.H., echoed his message of vengeance and grievance, as he called himself a “very proud election denier” and decried his legal entanglements, once again attacking the judge in a New York civil trial and re-upping his attacks on special counsel Jack Smith. In the speech, Trump once again portrayed himself as a victim of a political system that is out to get him and his supporters.
Yet Trump’s use of the word “vermin” both in his speech and in a Truth Social post on Saturday drew particular backlash.
“The language is the language that dictators use to instill fear,” said Timothy Naftali, a senior research scholar at Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs. “When you dehumanize an opponent, you strip them of their constitutional rights to participate securely in a democracy because you’re saying they’re not human. That’s what dictators do.”

Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a historian at New York University, said in an email to The Washington Post that “calling people 'vermin’ was used effectively by Hitler and Mussolini to dehumanize people and encourage their followers to engage in violence.”

“Trump is also using projection: note that he mentions all kinds of authoritarians ‘communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left’ to set himself up as the deliverer of freedom,” Ben-Ghiat said. “Mussolini promised freedom to his people too and then declared dictatorship.”
Steven Cheung, a Trump campaign spokesman, told The Post “those who try to make that ridiculous assertion are clearly snowflakes grasping for anything because they are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome and their entire existence will be crushed when President Trump returns to the White House.”

Trump also received widespread criticism and condemnation recently from groups such as the Anti-Defamation League for saying in an interview that undocumented immigrants were “poisoning the blood of our country.”
Domingo Garcia, president of the League of United Latin American Citizens, the oldest Hispanic civil rights group in the country, said at the time that Trump’s comments about blood indicate his language is “getting more extreme,” comparing it to Nazi propaganda about Jewish people.
Trump’s divisive rhetoric comes as he remains the clear polling leader in the dwindling GOP primary field and as he and his allies have already started to plot ways for the federal government to punish his critics and opponents should he win back the White House next November. The Post recently reported that Trump — who faces 91 charges across four criminal cases — is naming the people he wants to investigate and prosecute, and his associates are drafting plans to potentially invoke the Insurrection Act on his first day in office, which would allow him to deploy the military in response to civil demonstrations.

In addition to attacking the “radical left,” he also spent part of the New Hampshire speech lashing out at a New York judge overseeing his civil fraud case, calling New York Attorney General Letitia James (D) a “disaster” and reiterating his descriptions of Smith as “deranged.” Smith has brought two indictments against Trump: one in a case charging Trump with illegally hoarding classified documents and the other alleging he sought to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power by seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election, leading to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

“The Trump-hating prosecutor in the case, his wife and family despise me much more than he does and I think he’s about a ten,” he said. “They’re about a 15, on a scale of ten. … He’s a disgrace to America.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/12/trump-rally-vermin-political-opponents/


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There's a similar article on Forbes which might be considered by many as a more reliable source.

Here is the link but it is a subscription site so I am unable to copy and paste. Though they frequently give new visitors some free articles.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarado...echoing-nazi-propaganda/?sh=58cd51de7229


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Trump believed fringe conspiracy he could be reinstated as president

A new book by ABC’s Jonathan Karl reveals that former President Trump seriously took to a fringe conspiracy that he could be reinstated as president after losing the 2020 election and well after leaving the White House.

Karl’s new book, “Tired of Winning: Donald Trump and the End of the Grand Ole Party,” releasing Tuesday, includes details about how Trump came to believe the theory, which was supported by some of the former president’s staunchest allies.

Among them was My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell, who falsely peddled the notion that Trump could return to the White House on Aug. 13, 2021 — nearly seven months after the former president ended his first term on Inauguration Day.

That groundless theory was linked to QAnon, which also falsely claimed President Biden was not actually the president and that the military was in power until Trump returned to office — which he never did.

In a 2021 interview, Karl asked Trump if he really thought there was a way to have him reinstated before an election.

“I’m not going to explain it to you, Jonathan, because you wouldn’t — you wouldn’t either understand it or write it,” Trump said, according to ABC News, citing audio of the interview.

Karl reported that Trump brought up the notion of being reinstated so often that some in his inner circle began to worry Trump actually believed he could force Biden out of the White House before the next election.

The idea, which is not rooted in any law, eventually gave other Trump supporters serious pause, including former Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.), who was booed while running for a Senate seat after suggesting Trump supporters put the 2020 election behind them.

Earlier this year, Brooks told Karl in an interview that Trump called the Alabama congressman in 2021 with several election-related asks.

“He asked me to publicly state that Donald Trump should be allowed to move back into the White House, reinstated as president,” Brooks told Karl.

Brooks went on to lose the Senate bid after Trump rescinded his endorsement for not delivering on making the claim of reinstatement. When asked if Trump truly believed he could be reinstated, Brooks said: “I sure hope not.”

“Because if he truly believed that, then he was way outside the bounds of reality.”

Alyssa Farah Griffin, who served as Trump’s White House communications director, responded to Karl’s reporting on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday calling it “stunning.”

“But the fact that someone who is the former commander in chief very well could be again, was buying into something so absurd, so patently false, underscores how dangerous Donald Trump is,” she said.

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There's a similar article on Forbes which might be considered by many as a more reliable source.

Here is the link but it is a subscription site so I am unable to copy and paste. Though they frequently give new visitors some free articles.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarado...echoing-nazi-propaganda/?sh=58cd51de7229

I'm really tired of the people out there that actually can't see or refuse to see the comparison between Trump and Hitler. For me it was obvious in 2016. My opinion hasn't changed even a little. When I tell people I'd vote for a burnt potato chip before I vote for Trump, I mean it.


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Capitol rioter plans 2024 run as a Libertarian candidate in Arizona’s 8th congressional district

PHOENIX (AP) — Jacob Chansley, the spear-carrying rioter whose horned fur hat, bare chest and face paint made him one of the more recognizable figures in the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the U.S. Capitol, apparently aspires to be a member of Congress.

Online paperwork shows the 35-year-old Chansley filed a candidate statement of interest Thursday, indicating he wants to run as a Libertarian in next year’s election for Arizona’s 8th Congressional District seat.

U.S. Rep. Debbie Lesko, a 64-year-old Republican representing the district since 2018, announced last month that she won’t seek re-election. Her term officially ends in January 2025.

Chansley pleaded guilty to a felony charge of obstructing an official proceeding in connection with the Capitol insurrection.

He was sentenced to 41 months in prison in November 2021 and served about 27 months before being transferred to a Phoenix halfway house in March 2023. Chansely grew up in the greater Phoenix area.

Chansley is among the more than 700 people who have been sentenced in relation to Capitol riot-related federal crimes. Authorities said Chansley was among the first rioters to enter the Capitol building and he acknowledged using a bullhorn to rouse the mob.

Although he previously called himself the “QAnon Shaman,” Chansley has since disavowed the QAnon movement.

He identified himself as Jacob Angeli-Chansley in the candidate statement of interest paperwork filed with the Arizona Secretary of State’s office.

The U.S. Constitution doesn’t prohibit felons from holding federal office. But Arizona law prohibits felons from voting until they have completed their sentence and had their civil rights restored.

Emails sent to Chansley and his attorney seeking comment on his political intentions weren’t immediately returned Sunday.

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That’s what you get when you don’t properly sentence violent rioters and traitors to at least 10-20 hard labor.


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Aye y’all see some of the articles out? Looks like their might be bipartisan support on a CR, which means Johnson can expect to get removed from speaker in the next couple months hahahahahhaa


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Shouldn't there be a rule or law that says felons can't run for elected office?


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As far as I know a person can be president while in prison. It's great how our forefathers could see into the future.


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How were they to foresee a time when Americans would stoop so low as to put a convicted felon in an elected position. I mean they lived in a time when felons hid from public view. People weren't crazy enough to vote for such a person. So how could they know.

Then again, they did sort of address that in the 14th amendment so I suppose someone thought of it.

I have another question, how can some folks think that the 14th amendment can't be used because it's old, but it's ok to use a civil war era ruling that allows congress to lower the pay of various secretaries and the President and VP?

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Aye y’all see some of the articles out? Looks like their might be bipartisan support on a CR, which means Johnson can expect to get removed from speaker in the next couple months hahahahahhaa

CR's aren't as good as actual appropriations either, which is something that I don't think most of the general public knows as well, either. Just going with that bandaid approach, I guess.

I'll be interested to see what the reaction is from most of the hard right. I think they'll allow Johnson some leeway this time because I don't think any of them have a personal vendetta with him a la Gaetz and McCarthy. Plus, I don't think they want to embarrass themselves again with the whole replacement process like they did last time. That being said, nothing they do surprises me anymore.


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I tend to agree with you. I just think they'll add enough poison pills to it that has nothing to do with actually reduce spending they know it will never get past the senate or oval office and then blame it on everyone else. They're getting closer to election time and are at the point the right has to give the perception of a united front.


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The new WWE Brawl In The Haul! Headlined by House Republican Rep.Kevin McCarthy and House Republican Rep. Tim Burchett!

GOP lawmaker claims Kevin McCarthy elbowed him after meeting, sparking altercation

The former speaker denied jabbing at his colleague.

Tennessee Rep. Tim Burchett, one of the eight Republicans who voted to oust Kevin McCarthy from the speakership last month, claimed to ABC News that McCarthy elbowed him in the back after a House GOP meeting on Tuesday morning.

McCarthy denied this, according to an NPR reporter who said she witnessed part of the altercation.

But Burchett said he was speaking to the NPR reporter when McCarthy walked behind him and allegedly put his elbow intentionally into Burchett's back. Burchett said he was pushed forward and then followed McCarthy down the hallway to confront him.

According to the reporter, Burchett asked McCarthy: "Why'd you walk behind me and elbow me in the back?"

The former speaker responded: "I didn't elbow you in the back."

And Burchett replied: "You got no guts, you did so."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop...elbowed-after-meeting/story?id=104879724



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I guess we’ll need to amend the constitution to make sure America pays her bills on time, so political terrorists can’t hold our credit rating hostage to negotiate in bad faith.


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Bernie gets in middle of fight between repub senator and union boss.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/b...-sit-down-youre-a-united-states-senator/

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Bernie gets in middle of fight between repub senator and union boss.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/b...-sit-down-youre-a-united-states-senator/

Bernie would probably stomp a hole in both their asses.


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But he would need to eat some soup first. At this stage of his life I highly doubt Bernie is going to be stomping a hole in anyone's ass.


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Lol… I can always trust that some master of the obvious will keep me straight… smh.

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I guess his mom didn't teach him that there's a time and a place for everything. But when your goal is more focused on owing the libs than governing, this is what it looks like.


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Here 8s where Trump is going, GOPers. Y’all in?



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Straight up hilarious crap going on right now hahahaa


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Originally Posted by northlima dawg
Bernie gets in middle of fight between repub senator and union boss.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/b...-sit-down-youre-a-united-states-senator/

Geez that's nuts.. I don't expect that from a US Senator.


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They’re staying quiet on all things Trump because his promised fascist state sounds good to them… Just like regular Germans when Hitler came up. Anyone still supporting Trump is a straight up traitor at this point, IMO. His recent rhetoric sounds woefully similar to his pre J6 banter. I think the new plan is to convince the base that an overthrow of the US government is necessary to MAGA… You know a certain percentage will be down. And then it won’t matter if we take him off the ballot, disqualify him, or he just loses again… Plan B will be ready to roll.

And if he is somehow elected again, you can bet your ass, EVERYONE who has said anything negative about Trump will be a target for “vermin extermination”. That ass clown is talking concentration camps for migrants and his detractors. After seeing the GOPer senator try to fight a witness today, it make me wonder if any of this can even be prevented. MAGA is literally rotting our government from the inside out.

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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
They’re staying quiet on all things Trump


“If I were to remain silent, I'd be guilty of complicity.”
― Albert Einstein


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Conservatives help block spending bill in retribution over Johnson stopgap

GOP leadership immediately canceled votes for the rest of the week, as conservatives warn they could continue to hold the floor hostage.

House Republicans tanked a GOP spending bill on Wednesday — marking a major setback for Speaker Mike Johnson less than 24 hours after passing a bill that would avert a shutdown.

GOP leadership then canceled the rest of the votes for the week, sending the chamber home early for a Thanksgiving recess.

Roughly 20 Republicans joined with Democrats to vote against allowing a funding bill covering the departments of Commerce and Justice, among other provisions, to come up for debate. Conservatives said they voted to block the rule for two reasons: Johnson's leaning on Democrats to help pass a short-term funding bill on Tuesday and opposition to amendments on the spending legislation itself.

“We had concerns about the bill itself … in addition to concerns relative to what happened yesterday," said Rep. Bob Good (R-Va.), a member of the conservative House Freedom Caucus.

The bill faced obvious challenges over its funding levels for the Department of Justice and the FBI. Conservatives are eager to overhaul those agencies, which have been some of the House GOP’s biggest targets as they accuse parts of the federal government of blatant politicization.

But as Democrats swooped in to help pass a stopgap bill Tuesday to avert a government shutdown, conservatives had explicitly discussed blocking bills from being able to come to the floor as retribution. With an exceedingly thin majority and Democrats not helping the majority party on basic governing votes, Johnson needs almost unanimous GOP support to start debate on a bill. Conservative hardliners used a similar tactic after then-Speaker Kevin McCarthy struck a deal with the White House on the debt ceiling that those members hated.

Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tenn.), a member of the Freedom Caucus, warned that this could keep happening.

“I think it gets bumpy from here on out,” he said. “Anything and everything is on the table."

https://www.politico.com/live-updat...IllBlNULVXlduCpYGPedIv5nWAXqTFMmfu3-Sr6Y


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Those dumbass GOPers won’t stop being idiots until they ruin the country’s credit and or drag the dollar down. BRILLIANT? I hope to see some of these MAGA traitors swing before this is all over.


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Clay Higgins Claims ‘Ghost Buses’ Brought FBI Informants To Washington On Jan. 6

The paranormal vehicles are a new conspiracy theory about the Justice Department’s alleged involvement in the Capitol riot.

WASHINGTON — Mysterious white buses unloaded dozens of FBI informants near the Capitol on the morning of Jan. 6, according to a new conspiracy theory from Rep. Clay Higgins (R-La.).

During a hearing with FBI director Christopher Wray on Wednesday, Higgins displayed a picture from inside the Union Station parking garage on Jan. 6 and asked if Wray was familiar with ghost buses.

“A ghost bus?” Wray said. “I’m not sure I’ve used that term before.”

Higgins, an Army veteran and former police officer, said ghost vehicles are used for “secret purposes.” He pointed to the picture of buses in the garage and noted they were painted “completely white,” as though that were an unusual way for buses to look.

“These buses are nefarious in nature and were filled with FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters deployed unto our Capitol on Jan. 6,” Higgins said. “Your day is coming, Mr. Wray.”

The ghost buses are the latest distraction from and excuse for the attack on the Capitol by supporters of former President Donald Trump. Higgins and other Republicans have suggested the attack has been used as a pretext for the persecution of Trump and his followers.

More than 1,200 people have been arrested and charged with federal crimes for their actions that day, according to the Department of Justice, including more than 400 charged with assaulting or interfering with police. The riot was part of Trump’s unsuccessful effort to nullify his loss in the 2020 presidential election, for which Trump has been charged with multiple felonies.

In an alternate reality — one that surfaces in Capitol Hill hearing rooms every few months when someone from the Justice Department testifies — FBI provocateurs tricked the legion of Trump supporters into ransacking the Capitol. Wray has offered a similar response each time.

“If you are asking whether the violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6 was part of some operation orchestrated by FBI sources and/or agents, the answer is emphatically no,” Wray told Higgins Wednesday.

Even among people steeped in conspiracy theories about Jan. 6, the ghost buses are new. Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss..), the former co-chair of the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol, said he had never heard of them.

“In all our work, we never even came across that term,” Thompson told HuffPost, adding that he had never even heard someone claim there was a bus full of FBI informants.

Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.), chairman of a House subcommittee investigating alleged deficiencies of Thompson’s investigation, also said he’d never heard of ghost buses. He initially thought a reporter was asking about “Ghostbusters,” the movie franchise.

Loudermilk said he believed there were “federal agents” in plain clothes present on Jan. 6 because that’s normal practice for law enforcement during any large political protest. His only question was whether they were present before help had been requested by the Capitol Police and what information had prompted them to attend.

But Loudermilk said he cautions his staff to disprove theories rather than prove them so they don’t deceive themselves.

“If you seek to prove a theory true, you will, 100% the time, because you will discredit any evidence contrary to your political theory,” Loudermilk said.

(Steven D’Antuono, the former assistant director in charge of the FBI’s Washington Field Office, told lawmakers in June, in a closed-door deposition, that he had not assigned any FBI agents to attend the protest that day. He said any FBI informants who attended only did so of their own volition and that the bureau used information from its sources to try to discourage potential domestic terrorists from coming to Washington.)

Lawmakers may be unfamiliar with the ghost buses because Higgins has kept his investigation private, the Louisiana Republican told HuffPost.

“I can tell you that I have extensive evidence about those two vehicles,” Higgins said, adding that the buses were seen unloading military-age men with muscular physiques, who looked like police officers even though they were dressed like Trump supporters, and the buses were abandoned in the garage.

When asked if he was saying the FBI’s bus passengers orchestrated the attack on the Capitol, Higgins wouldn’t go there.

“They orchestrated what they orchestrated and don’t put words in my mouth,” Higgins said, explaining that the FBI infiltrated groups of people who met online to complain about coronavirus restrictions in 2020.

“I’ve turned a lot of this evidence over to the appropriate authorities, and we’ll see what happens,” Higgins said. “When we get Trump back in the White House, these guys are in a bind.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ghost-buses-january-6-clay-higgins_n_65550704e4b0998d699e99b3

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Idiots. I hope Wray takes him down for making those threats. I never in my life thought I’d see so many damn fools in congress. We need some kind of minimum mental capacity test for government IMO. People like him, MTG, and Boebert have no business being in positions of power… NONE. But they were elected by people just like them, and Americans at that, so I guess we have to live with it, until we don’t.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
They’re staying quiet on all things Trump


“If I were to remain silent, I'd be guilty of complicity.”
― Albert Einstein

What we have is all these maga Goper’s with their tooth flapping conspiracy theories all the time don’t even know who Einstein was or why he wouldn’t remain silent.


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And they think they are making some kind of point by a woman who doesn't think traffic laws apply to her while ignoring things like these. Then claim they're not trumpians.


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Nevada’s attorney general is investigating fake electors in 2020 for Trump, AP source says

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Nevada’s attorney general is investigating six Republican electors who submitted a document to Congress falsely declaring Donald Trump the winner of the 2020 presidential election, a person with knowledge of the case said Wednesday.

It was not immediately clear if the ongoing probe was a criminal or civil matter. But the probe adds to official scrutiny of fake electors in several swing states won by President Joe Biden in 2020, including investigations in Georgia, Michigan and Arizona. Fake electors were charged in Georgia and Michigan, and Trump faces charges both in Georgia and in a federal investigation of his conduct related to the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol riot.

The person was not authorized to speak publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. Politico and NBC News first reported the existence of the investigation.

Attorney General Aaron Ford, a Democrat, did not respond Wednesday to messages. He has said in the past that his office was cooperating and participating with a U.S. Justice Department investigation of the efforts to keep Trump in office. He told the Democratic Attorneys General Association last January he feared that making any comment would be seen as partisan.

Nevada Gov. Joe Lombardo, a Republican, vetoed a bill last June passed by the Democratic-led Legislature that would have made it a felony to falsely certify that a losing candidate has won an election.

Among those who served as false electors in 2020 are current state GOP chairman Michael McDonald, national party committee member Jim DeGraffenreid, Clark County party chair Jesse Law and Shawn Meehan, a national and Douglas County committee member. All declined to comment.

McDonald introduced Trump at an October rally in Las Vegas and pushed for the Nevada GOP to hold a nominating caucuses change seen by many Republicans as benefiting the former president. The GOP caucuses will take place Feb. 8, two days after a state-mandated primary.

Efforts by AP to reach the other two fake electors, Durward James “Jim” Hindle III and Eileen Rice in northern Nevada, were not successful.

“These individuals all have no comment,” said Brian Hardy, an attorney involved in the case.

The six electors gathered on Dec. 14, 2020, in Carson City and agreed to send an electoral certificate to Congress in a bid to cast Nevada’s six electoral votes for Trump and keep the former president in power, according to transcripts of closed-door testimony before the U.S. House committee that investigated the Jan. 6 attack that disrupted the tally of electoral votes.

Trump lost Nevada by about 30,000 votes to Biden. The state’s Democratic electors certified the results in the presence of Nevada Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske, a Republican whose defense of the results as reliable and accurate led the state Republican Party to censure her. Cegavske later conducted an investigation that found no credible evidence of widespread voter fraud in the state. Term limits barred her from seeking reelection.

McDonald and DeGraffenreid were among those who testified before the House committee.

Government and outside investigationshave uniformly found there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud that could have swung the election from Biden. Trump has continued to spread falsehoods about the 2020 election.

https://apnews.com/article/fake-ele...ublican-8d1d99dedae43cba2d61aafb55bf20b9

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