When George Pickens was drafted by the Steelers. I was not happy.
I knew that he was a talented receiver.
Now? I would not have that guy on my team. I don't know what Tomlin is doing? The tape on Pickens lack of effort is embarrassing.
I do not understand how Mike Tomlin has let it get to this stage? At this point I would pull all those plays on him and in a team meeting put it up on display.
"This kind of effort is why we are losing games." I would embarrass him in front of the team. Then bench his ass.
You cannot coach a team and have a player play like that. No player who is working his ass off will respect you.
I have never seen a player for the Browns play that way under KS. We would not be 9-5 if we did.
The Steelers are in deep dodo.
A real shame, that.... Hate to see it.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
DPJ was very over rated as a Brown Never a threat to score. Always complied alot Of garbage time yards. Had maybe one meaningful Catch for the Browns. Now that he is a Lion is on a roster with a loaded WR room. He is a depth piece at best. He will stick around the NFL as a 4th or 5th WR Having a new team each year. Probably a rebuilding Team. But he isn't good enough to start for a playoff team.
DPJ was very over rated as a Brown Never a threat to score. Always complied alot Of garbage time yards. Had maybe one meaningful Catch for the Browns. Now that he is a Lion is on a roster with a loaded WR room. He is a depth piece at best. He will stick around the NFL as a 4th or 5th WR Having a new team each year. Probably a rebuilding Team. But he isn't good enough to start for a playoff team.
I think this take is a little harsh. While our front office felt that DPJ was not in the Browns future with Tillman taking his spot, He made some really good plays for the Browns. The TD in the last seconds in Cincinati comes to mind. He had another long TD in Cincinnati a year later right after the Browns cut OBJ. I remember another game against the Tennessee Titans where he had a long touchdown pass. Last year he had a punt return for a touchdown vs Houston. I wish him nothing but the best. I do feel that Tillman is just taller and faster than DPJ and fits more of what this offense needs at this time.
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When George Pickens was drafted by the Steelers. I was not happy.
I knew that he was a talented receiver.
Now? I would not have that guy on my team. I don't know what Tomlin is doing? The tape on Pickens lack of effort is embarrassing.
I do not understand how Mike Tomlin has let it get to this stage? At this point I would pull all those plays on him and in a team meeting put it up on display.
"This kind of effort is why we are losing games." I would embarrass him in front of the team. Then bench his ass.
You cannot coach a team and have a player play like that. No player who is working his ass off will respect you.
I have never seen a player for the Browns play that way under KS. We would not be 9-5 if we did.
The Steelers are in deep dodo.
I don't know how much you've been paying attention to their team, but this isn't the first time this year or the only player. Pickens has had at least two episodes that I am aware and Dionte Johnson has had at least one. I was going to bring it up about a month or so ago, but just didn't get the time to type up a conversation about it. Actually sort of surprised this is the first time someone bringing up their drama this season.
Tomlin has that reputation of zero nonsense allowed. Now that they are losing and lack talent. He is tolerating this crap from Pickens?
The Rooney's are a patient bunch. But I do not see them tolerating what is now going on. Players opening up to the media about lack of effort. Minkah and TJ have gone public.
It may be time for Tomlin and the Steelers to have a mutual parting of the ways.
I do not see them over 500. Pickett is not the answer. Trouble is coming to Pittsburgh.
He didn't give up. Giving up I think means that at some point, you gave some effort. On that play, he never did a damn thing from start to finish. Even worse than giving up.
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He didn't give up. Giving up I think means that at some point, you gave some effort. On that play, he never did a damn thing from start to finish. Even worse than giving up.
OMG I never even noticed him right off the snap. It was his dude that picked up the ball. HAHAHAHHA
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There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
DPJ was very over rated as a Brown Never a threat to score. Always complied alot Of garbage time yards. Had maybe one meaningful Catch for the Browns. Now that he is a Lion is on a roster with a loaded WR room. He is a depth piece at best. He will stick around the NFL as a 4th or 5th WR Having a new team each year. Probably a rebuilding Team. But he isn't good enough to start for a playoff team.
I think this take is a little harsh. While our front office felt that DPJ was not in the Browns future with Tillman taking his spot, He made some really good plays for the Browns. The TD in the last seconds in Cincinati comes to mind. He had another long TD in Cincinnati a year later right after the Browns cut OBJ. I remember another game against the Tennessee Titans where he had a long touchdown pass. Last year he had a punt return for a touchdown vs Houston. I wish him nothing but the best. I do feel that Tillman is just taller and faster than DPJ and fits more of what this offense needs at this time.
I agree, he wasn't a star, but he provided some plays. For a 6th round pick I thought he provided the Browns with decent play.
A 6th rounder playing behind a legit #1 pretty much the whole time (OBJ and then Cooper after), and targeted behind Njoku, Hunt (when he was a weapon) and in a relative run-heavy offense with the best RB in the league. Also spent a good chunk of his time playing with questionable QB talent.
No, he was never a world-beater, but he was a 6th-round WR that only improved while he was here. I don't blame people (which I guess includes myself :-p ) for romanticizing (for lack of a better word) his time here. Previous years/regimes he'd come in and be expected to contribute immediately and we'd have him crash and burn.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Here's a really good interview of Amari Cooper talking about Stefanski, Flacco, Brown's Superbowl chances and adjusting to 4 different qb's in one season.
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Amari Cooper named AFC Offensive Player of the Week
Cooper set a single-game franchise record with 265 receiving yards in Week 16
Cleveland Browns WR Amari Cooper has earned AFC Offensive Player of the Week for games played Dec. 21-25 (Week 16), the National Football League announced Wednesday.
Cooper set a single-game franchise record with 265 receiving yards during the Browns 36-22 victory at Houston. He added 11 receptions (tied for third most in a game in Browns history) and two receiving touchdowns. His 265 receiving yards are the most by any player in the NFL this season. Cooper's 75-yard touchdown catch in the second quarter was the longest reception by a Browns player since Dec. 6, 2020. He also hauled in a 53-yard reception on the first play of the game to set up a touchdown. Cooper became the first Brown to record two 50-yard receptions in a game since Travis Benjamin in 2015. Cooper's 1,250 receiving yards on the year are the third-most by a Brown in a season.
Cooper joins K Dustin Hopkins (Weeks 6-7) and DE Myles Garrett (Week 7) as Browns weekly award winners this season. Cooper has won four career weekly awards (AFC Offensive Player of the Week twice and NFC Offensive Player of the Week twice). He is the first Brown to win AFC Offensive Player of the Week since QB Baker Mayfield in Week 7 in 2020.
It certainly can be. With all of the draft picks combined with the contract of watson being totally guaranteed I don't think the costs involved are as close as some think they are or make them out to be.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
How is it all that different other than Wilson getting less money? Neither he nor watson will be on the field. I see both as being non productive at this point and both will be on the sideline with Wilson being guaranteed less money. Only the future will decide the anwser because at this point their current situation means neither will be on the field.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
Driskel has spent a majority of the 2023 season on the Cardinals' practice squad
The Cleveland Browns have signed QB Jeff Driskel to the active roster off the Cardinals' practice squad. To make room on the roster, the team has waived DE Sam Kamara.
Driskel (6-4, 235) is in his eighth NFL season out of Louisiana Tech. Originally a sixth-round draft pick by the 49ers in 2016, Driskel has appeared in 23 career games with 11 starts with the Bengals (2018), Lions (2019), Broncos (2020) and Texans (2021-22). He has completed 216 of 365 career passes for 2,228 yards with 14 touchdowns. He has added 384 rushing yards with three scores. He made two starts for the Texans in 2022 and has spent the majority of this season the Cardinals' practice squad.
I really haven't seen enough of him this season to tell. But with close to two full weeks left before a playoff game bringing him in to find out couldn't hurt.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
People say he's washed, but a vet with fresh legs doesn't sound too bad. I guess it depends on how banged up Ford is coming out of Cinci.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
People say he's washed, but a vet with fresh legs doesn't sound too bad. I guess it depends on how banged up Ford is coming out of Cinci.
He's a great receiving back as well (or at least was during his prime in MIN). Stefanski also is familiar with him and that relationship could come into play, whether good or bad.
That familiarity with the coach, the system, and all that would be big.... he may be washed up; he may just be in the wrong system. I'm sure Stefanski & Berry have already been talking to his agent because there is no way his agent takes him this route without laying the groundwork with more than one team.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
If possible, I would bring him on for the reasons already given. He could still be a weapon. It can't hurt to have some depth the way this season has gone.
With the passing game we have with Flacco, Cook could have life again.
Stefanski knows him well. Even if he doesn't have the speed he once had, he still knows how to read his blocks and hit the openings. Our running game is pretty subpar right now, so I would do it if Cook is interested.
Everything the Browns touch is turning to gold right now. Bring Cook in. Very little downside. I'd have a hard time being compelled by an argument against giving him a look.
Obviously, his best days are behind him but do you think he's worse than Hunt or Strong? I don't know but the idea is a bit intriguing.
I wouldn't even say Hunt or Strong. Is he better than anybody on the team? At this point in the season I don't think the traditional mold of position group numbers is all that important. There has to be somebody on the practice squad we can do without or there is somebody banged up enough we can place on IR.
Morre is a guy we should probably IR. When there is a report saying a MD thinks the guy should retire, it doesn't sound like he is going to clear protocol any time soon. It might be time to put the kid on the shelf and see how things look next spring before putting him back in action.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
I wouldn't even say Hunt or Strong. Is he better than anybody on the team? At this point in the season I don't think the traditional mold of position group numbers is all that important. There has to be somebody on the practice squad we can do without or there is somebody banged up enough we can place on IR.
Morre is a guy we should probably IR. When there is a report saying a MD thinks the guy should retire, it doesn't sound like he is going to clear protocol any time soon. It might be time to put the kid on the shelf and see how things look next spring before putting him back in action.
There are talks about bringing in a WR, but who is available at this point of the season? Only reason we are talking about Cook is because the Jets made him available when normally no one would be out there to consider.
I believe the doctor that said Moore should retire is one that didn't evaluate him at all and is generally on the side of players retiring when concussed. Maybe that doctor is right, but as far as league protocols go I don't think him going on IR is in the mix.
cook is better than anything we have active, and he knows the system. he will be cheap and good insurance, sign him, let him play sunday. People said Flacco was washed after playing for the Jets too.
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