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This thread has become the most important story of the season it seems.
Stroud is probably not going to play. Nico Collins is iffy.
We have our own issues (CLEARLY), but I'm hoping Bitonio and Pocic can return ... they'd be a huge boost to our offense
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No doubt with the play from the tackles; we need the big three in the middle.
We need them in pass protection but we really need them in the run game.
I do not think it is a good formula to win games having Joe throwing 40 times every game. That is not sustainable. Joe will put the ball in harms way having him chucking the ball all over the yard.
We need some balance and we need the run to make play action work.
Joe has been great when we had to make plays. We do not want to make it the rule for Joe to play trailing.
With our defense get the lead. Then play a balanced game. Joe with the lead will be more cautious.
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This thread has become the most important story of the season it seems.
Stroud is probably not going to play. Nico Collins is iffy.
We have our own issues (CLEARLY), but I'm hoping Bitonio and Pocic can return ... they'd be a huge boost to our offense Every time Flacco drops back to pass our OLine has to protect him. So far, the Browns OLine has done an OK job in his 3 starts... 2 sacks in game in game #1.. 1 sack in game #2.. 4 sacks in game #3..
It helps when our QB is 6-6 and weighs in at 245 lbs...but the risk factor continues to increase with each pass attempt. The pressure also increases on the Browns OLine to do their best to protect Flacco. If the Browns can get the running game going it sure would help. It will take a "team effort"..GO BROWNS..!
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Bitonio “couldn’t move” after the game on Sunday, lower back issues. That doesn’t bode well. I don’t know many people who just bounce back from significant lower back problems. We’ll see.
I’m curious about Z Smith, haven’t heard anything.
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sounds like Pocic and Z will be back this week
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Pocic back would be huge. Still pulling for Bitonio. Would prefer having Dunn sub in for him, though, vs losing Pocic again.
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Think bitonio may have to miss another game. Might be for the best. What worries me is qe will have a short week going into jets game. So Any injuries suffered during this game will probably mean those players won't play against the jets
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Team rankings in offense and defense:
Total Defense:
Browns - 1st Texans - 16th
Run defense:
Texans - 6th Browns - 11th
Pass defense:
Browns - 1st Texans - 25th
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Total Offense:
Texans - 10th Browns - 17th
Pass Offense:
Texans - 5th Browns - 21st
Rush Offense:
Browns - 10th Texans - Titans 18th
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Their list is as long as ours.. .That's good!
In reply to the unit rankings: Their offense has been really solid lately, but that has been almost entirely because of Stroud. If he can't go, it will look a lot different. Keenum is still solid and protects the ball well, but he isn't going to destroy us with his legs. Their strength is passing the ball, which is our strength on D. I'll take that all day. Plus, their Pass D is suspect and you KNOW we're going to be slinging it all over the place.
I think we match up well with them, but this is still going to be a very tough game.... especially since we have been utterly terrible on the road this season.
Browns is the Browns
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Agree with your assessment Purp. It will be a tough game for us even if CK is their QB. It’s at their place and they’re fighting for a playoff spot not to mention our injuries. Just out of curiosity Purp do you know who Sheb Wooley is?
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We are basically playing to clinch. Even if we do not clinch with a win. We will be like 99% in.
Two things need to change.
One. We must be better at protecting the ball.
Two. We have to be better on the road.
IMO we can accomplish both goals by getting early leads. That of course means starting fast. With the lead all options become open. The playbook is larger on offense.
On defense it allows you to be more aggressive.
This game with the Texans is really important. We can become a more polished team.
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I'm with you. I almost don't care if we win so long as the team (mainly the offense) can take that next step forward (protecting the ball).
IMO, making the playoffs won't mean diddly if the O can't improve in that specific area.
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Agreed. I hope our offense starts playing well from the first series instead of waiting until the 4th quarter. Concentrate on stopping the turnovers and moving the chains. Our hope the coaches stress these points. We can’t rely on 4th quarter comebacks every game. Sooner or later we will fall short.
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A win here for Houston would solidify Demeco and Cleveland’s own Nick Caserio as coach/gm of the year.
However, Despite our worries and respect for the Texans…. Browns by 4.
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j/c... Aaron Wilson @AaronWilson_NFL #Texans Nico Collins practiced for second day in a row after missing a game with a strained calf and is trending toward being back for #Browns game. Jimmie Ward (concussion) returned to practice, as did Brevin Jordan, John Metchie III (illnesses) @KPRC2 Aaron Wilson @AaronWilson_NFL Not practicing #Texans Will Anderson Jr., (high ankle sprain), Blake Cashman (hamstring). Both are not expected to play Sunday against #Browns https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/1737896044808048808
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The more I look at this game. The better the matchups look.
The Texans are really banged up as well. Will Anderson is hurting. That may help Hudson.
Pocic is practicing. Bitonio is day to day. He may be ready by Sunday.
Marquise Goodwin can help us. Joe has another week under his belt. He is looking for Njoku and they have a thing going on.
I think Schwartz will really make a point about winning on the Road.
We have a lot riding on this game and Stroud is not going to play.
This could be a big week for Cleveland.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I hope Hickman is ready to fill in. He looked pretty good against the Bears.
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I feel like we need to keep like 16 OLine on the roster next year.
Browns is the Browns
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I feel like we need to keep like 16 OLine on the roster next year. and almost as many QBs.
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it seems like a ton of teams are dealing with the same OL injuries too... tons of backups playing everywhere
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it seems like a ton of teams are dealing with the same OL injuries too... tons of backups playing everywhere I think since they went to 17 games, they should have upped the rosters to 57 or 58 instead of staying at 53.
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Texans are 6th against the run. With bitonio out and the left tackle Christian limited with a injured shoulder we are going to have to throw the ball most of the time. Hopefully this doesn't get ugly quick. On defense I noticed walker has gone from limited to did not participate. So maybe he tweaked his current injury and he may not play either. Thornhill as usual looks like he won't play, so we are thin at saftey and linebacker again
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Healthy Players, ought to be the name of the thread imo.
I don't care what the opponent ranked, ranks, or hopes, the Browns need to clobber them, run all over them, and run up the score on them. I'm a Browns fan not some other teams advocate.
With all do respect to the other team, the Browns only have 3 more regular season games and I want to see More.
I think, the Healthy, back up and starting Browns 38, and the other team negative 2.
only negative 2 ? Well, they are at home.
Go Browns, Dominate. < what is William Green doing these days? Talk about a fit on this offense right now. >
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It sounds like Bitonio is going to try to play
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Walker's status was downgraded yesterday. Zadarius went from a personal day to Limited, but I think that's still an improvement over last week?
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Walker cannot be here next year.. he's always hurt and isn't that great when he does play.. We need a good Physical linebacker with speed for the middle next year
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Texans' C.J. Stroud, Will Anderson Jr. ruled out for Browns game The Texans have officially ruled out quarterback C.J. Stroud for Sunday’s game against Cleveland at NRG. Stroud will miss his second consecutive game as he remains in concussion protocol. His condition has improved, but he is not yet ready to play as he did not practice all week. Quarterback Case Keenum is expected to make another start against the Browns. Last week, he led the Texans to a 19-16 overtime victory over the Titans. Also ruled out were linebacker Blake Cashman (hamstring) and edge rusher Will Anderson Jr. (ankle). Neither practiced this week. Wide receiver Nico Collins, who missed last week’s game with a calf injury, was listed on the injury report as questionable. He practiced in a limited capacity and told the Chronicle on Thursday that he’s feeling much better and hopes to play. Defensive tackle Maliek Collins, was listed as questionable with hip injury, as was linebacker Denzel Perryman, who was an Achilles injury. Safety Jimmie Ward, who suffered a concussion Sunday, was a full participant in practice Friday and was not given an injury designation. https://www.houstonchronicle.com/te...-cj-stroud-out-vs-cleveland-18570200.php
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You have to have some glue guys and Walker brings leadership and intelligence to the team and position. He’s looked better this year with the improvement of JOK.
I’d bring him back on a one year deal and just keep doing that until it doesn’t make sense anymore.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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well, we're a little more evened up on the injury front with those 3 out for them
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Very happy the rookie phenom isn’t playing but Keenum can play and will be duly motivated. Go Browns!
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We’ll need a dose of Joe Cool on the road, maybe he can help us win one. I bet the D shows up.
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Hopefully we squeak this one out. Joe Cool can really solidify his legend with a road win against these clowns.
We’re slated to get a BUNCH of defensive injuries back if we make the playoffs.
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Not sure but I think Wills, Dewand Jones and Hurst are done till next year.
Delpit and Ogbo could possibly return.
I like how we matchup against the Texans. I don't need more drama. I would love to win big.
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Can’t watch the game, lost in the East Hampton NY woods for the holiday with very limited TV but very curious about the Hopkins injury.. any info? Did it look bad? I don’t think anyone would disagree that losing him for any stretch would be on par with some our biggest losses this season
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He tried to chase down a kick returner. Afterword he reported a hammy. In the replay he didn’t pull up lame, or grab at his hammy as he was running. My hope is it’s not a bad injury. None the less, hammies are slow to heal. My guess is we won’t see him on Thursday. Hopefully he’s back by Cinci.
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Did they ever say if it was his kicking leg or his plant leg
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I’m not sure if they reported which leg was affected. Borquez was massaging his left thigh… quad injuries are weird. Not sure what going on there.
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I’m not sure if they reported which leg was affected. Borquez was massaging his left thigh… quad injuries are weird. Not sure what going on there. His wrist too
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Did they ever say if it was his kicking leg or his plant leg Left hamstring. So plant leg.
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If if was too painful for him to kick today, he will need to heal fast by Thursday. It wouldn’t be a Sunday night if we didn’t have to worry about injuries.
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I wonder if it's a Jim Brown jinx- don't break my record of points- another Browns curse.
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I can't see Dustin or Bojorquez back for Thursday, if at all now
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That's because you belong to the game day karen club.
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That's because you belong to the game day karen club. what happened in the gamey day? I wasn't there all day due to family
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well the fact that it wasn't his kicking leg gives me hope he can get stretched out and healed up for a run, not sure if it will be thursday, I would like to think we can beat the Jets without it needing to be a last second FG, but we will def. bring one in this week I'm sure...watch it be York and he kicks a game winner
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You're usually in there spouting negativity. So this comment about their injuries is about what I would expect from you.
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You're usually in there spouting negativity. So this comment about their injuries is about what I would expect from you. I am? I think I'm pretty well-balanced with what is occurring. Regardless, have a nice Christmas Eve. Enjoy the holiday.
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You have a nice Christmas also.
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I bet DRT is hurt. He took a rough hit and ran of the field oddly.
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Phil Dawson is only 48 years old. SIGN HIM UP lol
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Berry will go get a kicker and punter.
If we can get a guy who can kick a 40 yarder and a punter who is just ok.
Hopkins and Borq will heal up over the next few weeks. Three weeks hopefully will get them ready.
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Berry will go get a kicker and punter.
If we can get a guy who can kick a 40 yarder and a punter who is just ok.
Hopkins and Borq will heal up over the next few weeks. Three weeks hopefully will get them ready. Exactly. Kickers are easy to find. Really solid ones like Hopkins are a gem but at least this year we're not losing our minds over every little thing.
"Let people think this is a dumpster fire," - Mike Pettine
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I can't see Dustin or Bojorquez back for Thursday, if at all now Do you know something we don't?
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul. - John Muir
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I can't see Dustin or Bojorquez back for Thursday, if at all now Do you know something we don't? Soft tissue injury (or at the very least discomfort) with a short turnaround will probably mean they both rest. My hope is that they can return by the playoffs
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Matt Araiza solves both issues. Not saying I would pull the trigger on that move. However, he is probably hungry and ready for a shot to get back into the league.
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that could be worth a shot if we deem the guys unable to play
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Matt Araiza solves both issues. Not saying I would pull the trigger on that move. However, he is probably hungry and ready for a shot to get back into the league. I think that would be an excellent idea. He’s cleared of wrong doing and deserves a chance, and we could use him.
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I think he'd be an excellent choice.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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